Chiropractic treatments

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    Sep 18, 2007 5:25 AM GMT
    Well, I came into this little dome hut to get some chiropractic work done on my neck. It has been hurting for ages - something like 7 or 8 years and I was like, "whatever, it'll go away." Recently, I decided, "meh," I might as well fix it.

    So I went to this guy, and he was Jewish, and he was working on that recent holiday. I am not sure of what it was called, Rashashanda or something.

    Anyways, they do all the stuff you would think they do like cracking your back. He did the neck-snap thing and I started laughing because of just how surreal it was. I was afraid though, he is kind of like the soup nazi for chiropractory apparently.

    Anyways, it made me feel lighter and a little more awake. He says that your body gets "unbalanced" and that you need to rebalance by getting regular sessions. I don't know what to make of that. He probably just wants more customers. Anyway, moral of the story, he couldn't fix my neck, but he said after more sessions, the stress and intensity on my right side will even out.
  • iHavok

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    Sep 18, 2007 2:02 PM GMT
    I prefer... ummm I think it's called gentle traction chiropractic adjustments? It's almost a massage, with wedge shaped pillows placed to help readjust your spine into the shape it should be.

    All that rice krispy stuff is scarey.
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    Sep 18, 2007 2:25 PM GMT
    I go to my Chiro once a month and have been seeing him for the last 8 or 9 years. I look forward to my "rice crispy" session. lol. I recently started some lite yoga excerizes and that also seems to help as it stretches out the muscles and helps to relax the tension.
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    Sep 18, 2007 2:34 PM GMT
    hhhmmmmm i think they are witch doctors, but that's just me. I've seen them do more damage than good. And you have to keep going back to them to "feel" better.

    But us dancers have weird backs and things anyhow.
  • Salubrious

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    Sep 18, 2007 2:36 PM GMT
    If you get a chiro that tells you he can cure cancer or something similar, run the other way very quickly. Chiropractors are great for certain things. The AMA's (American Medical Association) position is this: "Manipulation has been shown to have a reasonably good degree of efficacy in ameliorating back pain, headache, and similar musculoskeletal complaints."
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    Sep 18, 2007 2:44 PM GMT
    "reasonably good"!

    And heroin makes people feel pretty darn good too... til you stop taking it!
  • Salubrious

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    Sep 18, 2007 3:01 PM GMT
    Rocco:

    I don't think your comparison is apt.
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    Sep 18, 2007 3:07 PM GMT
    just speaking from experience and what i hear from others.

    The second you stop going to the witch doctor/chirpractor the pain come back with a vengance.

  • MikePhilPerez

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    Sep 18, 2007 8:18 PM GMT
    I had many sessions with one and can honestly say it done nothing for me. In fact I think I am worse now.

    Also it is dangerous. Some of those guys have done some serious damage. Work on the neck is the most dangerous.

    Be careful.

    Mike
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    Sep 18, 2007 8:39 PM GMT
    I injured my back in college and experienced some degree of back pain for several years. When it became too much to bear and two doctors said that my only option was surgery, I decided to try the witch doctor!(chiropractor) The guy I went to was really good and eliminated my pain after only four or five initial adjustments. Thereafter he recommended monthly maintenance appointments. If I failed to keep up with the maintenance appointments for more than two months, the pain returned. I went to Dr. Bill monthly for at least fifteen years, when the thoughtless SOB died, leaving me chiropractorless. I looked for a substitute chiropractor, and although I have tried ten to twelve others, no one can adjust me the way he did. I found a physical therapist who recommended a series of regular back exercises, and as long as I do them regularly, I'm fine. I'm not sure what all this says except: as in all walks of life, there are some good ones and some not so good. If you have confidence that this guy can fix your neck, go back for the additional sessions, if not, try someone else.
  • SkyMiles

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    Sep 18, 2007 10:42 PM GMT
    I just started seeing one for lower back pain. Chiropractic makes sense to me, in that the spine is a bunch of disconnected vertebre glued together by spongy gaskets -- so it's easy to knock stuff out of alignment to where the bony parts start to pinch the soft parts. HA! Or was that too technical?!

    Yeah, the damn thing keeps a record of every fall and accident you ever had!! Ain't THAT a b?

    Anyhoo, I think it's working. I always thought it was voodoo until I needed one. I'm told good chiropractors are great and bad ones can f you up.

    The 'rice-crispy' neck treatment scared me 'cause I've seen all those ninja/splinter-cell type movies where people get killed like that -- ACK!
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    Sep 19, 2007 12:48 AM GMT
    I am also with stripper rocco....they do more harm than good...its psuedo medicine..and they are dangerous because they go around calling themselves doctors and thinking they are...when in fact they arent even close...

    I worked with neurosurgeons whose practice was based on fixing the damage done by chiropractors...and they had thriving practices as a result of the damage done...

    I recently had the misfortune of knowing a chiropractor who was so bold with his belief that he was a real doctor that he gave out prescription drugs, including pain killlers to his patients...he gets the meds from his father who owns a pharmacy...i still hadnt decided whether to report him to the authorities...but it shows you how cavalier and misguided these so called "doctors" are!!!!!

    From my experience...stay as far away from them as possible.
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    Sep 19, 2007 12:53 AM GMT
    You should continue going to the chiropractor on a regular basis. I go once a week for lower back and neck adjustments and I honestly feel almost insant relief when he pops my neck! Athletes especially should visit the chiropractor regularly!
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    Sep 19, 2007 3:14 AM GMT
    Yeah, its real great if you have a professional chiro. if you're rich, but otherwise, alternative "alternative treatment" might be better. My guy costs 40 dollars a session - kind of pricy for a once a week thing in my opinion.

    I wouldn't consider them like voodoo-esque specialties. They just specialized in fine tuning of the bones and stuff. But yeah, if they don't know what they are doing, I'm sure they can mess you up.
  • iHavok

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    Sep 19, 2007 2:29 PM GMT
    I think it's bizarre there are still people out there that consider this a psuedomedicine...

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    Sep 19, 2007 2:36 PM GMT
    If you feel you need to keep going have at it! While you are at it why don't you also lay some quartz crystals and rose quartz along the spine to sooth and heal. You may also want to leave some Rum and beauty supplies at the grave of Marie LeVeau... just sayin.

    I need my back to function correctly and in a certain manner so I will, personally, stay as far away as possible.
  • iHavok

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    Sep 19, 2007 2:44 PM GMT
    It is industry standard for insurance to cover chiropractic treatment. Do you really think they would, if there was any way at allthey could avoid to?
    Especially in this world of rising insurance costs...

    Perhaps instead of trying to be cute, you could provide references as to the inefficacy of chiropractic treatment...
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    Sep 19, 2007 2:55 PM GMT
    Other than the two dancers I know personally who went to a chiropractor because of normal dance back and neck pain, and the "adjustments" they received over the span of two years did so much damage that it ended their career?

    Eventually the company director told them to go directly to a sports medicine facility instead of the witch doctor, where all the damage was uncovered.

    I understand that dance, athletics in general, can be very stressful on the spine, but again heroin get's rid of pain too!

    Back pain is a fact of life for athletes and dancers, but there are far more effective, safe, and long term methods to releave the pain such as conditioning and yoga.

    I guess it just depends on whether or not you are dilligent enough to work through the pain and over the long term have complete control of it , or you just want a quick fix.

    PS There's also that creepy scene at the beginning of "Truth Or Dare" where Madonna is having her neck adjusted... and instead of the "snap crackle pop" the director dubbed the sound of Japan's thunder over her neck's sound. That was MORE than enough for me!


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    Sep 19, 2007 2:57 PM GMT
    I've been getting chiro care for the past 5 years and it has helped. I've had issues with muscle spasms in my lower back and when that happens, my spine is totally out of alignment. the adjustments I now get are pretty minimal. I've never had anything done with my neck, and I think I probably stay away from that stuff.

    For my back issues, I try to pay attention to what is going on there. If there is some tension in my lower back, then it's time for some heat and some good lower back stretching
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    Sep 19, 2007 3:00 PM GMT
    As an aside... as you can tell from most of my other posts, i am pretty extreme. I don't mean to offend, and if things work for others thats great... like having a pet dog (see other thread).

    I'm really not a big b!tch... just strongly opinionated. That's all.
  • iHavok

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    Sep 19, 2007 3:00 PM GMT
    and I'm done.

    I have no arguement for hearsay.

    oh well.
    Guess that means you're right and chiropractic treatment are just a crazy hoax like the couple who who heard about the killer with the hook then drove home and found a hook attached to their bumper.
  • art_smass

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    Sep 19, 2007 3:21 PM GMT
    It's not a hoax. But the hook was attached to the door handle and the girl in the passenger seat had gone missing.

    Get your facts right!
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    Sep 19, 2007 3:35 PM GMT
    Chiropracters do earn a doctorate degree, and some are authorized to prescribe medication. The D.C degree requires a 4 year degree with science/pre-med focus just to be admitted and then includes another 4 years of a mix of standard medicine and chiropractic courses. All of this followed by testing for certification.

    What I have uncovered in researching the field (I may be going back to school for a D.C.) indicates that a good Chiropractor uses modern diagnosis, works with other medical professionals, and takes a more holistic approach to medicine which can include addressing diet, exercise, stress reduction, etc. along with the now famous "crack yer bones" techniques.

    I agree with some others here. Bad experiences may be more about the people than the profession. There are unskillful people in every profession - having a doctorate does not necessarily mean you are an awake, intuitive, precise, examining, etc. kind of person.

    And, because insurance is ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY, it's a good guess that mathmatical models have shown that going to the chiropractor reduces or at least has no effect on the amount of money an insurance company makes/loses per customer.
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    Sep 19, 2007 4:08 PM GMT
    Chiropractors can offer great services. The problem, though, is that some only help realign the hard tissue structures (bones) without paying attention to the soft (muscles, tendons, ligaments). Soft tissue structures quickly adapt to the poorly aligned bone structures and become too long/short. The chiro puts the bones back in order, but over a short period of time, the soft tissues will pull them right back into the pre-adjusted position, requiring subsequent visits. It's basically like taking Tylenol P.M. to cover the symptoms of a cold. It doesn't fix the problem. However if a chiropractor is good, s/he will help you learn how to realign the structures of the body so you don't have to keep returning.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Sep 19, 2007 6:50 PM GMT
    I spent hundreds of Euro on Chiropractic treatment and have nothing to show for it.

    My parents have done the same an nothing to show for it. In fact my parents have seen more that one.

    My sister sees one on a regular bases, and she thinks it is great, yet she is always complaining about her back. Believe me if she continues with it she will have a walking stick before she is 50.

    I here people singing there praises all the time and the guy I went to is considered one of the best. But I don't see it.

    When he cracks your bones is seems to get some kind of pleasure out of it. That is not a joke. I did think he got pleasure out of cracking my bones.

    Even if you are getting some kind of relief out of it, if you have to keep going back then he or she is not fixing the problem and if you have to go back every week there is something seriously wrong with that.

    SDtriner makes a good point.

    Mike