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    Dec 01, 2013 8:52 PM GMT
    So, I am doing my best to keep in shape. I get to the gym 4-5 times a week. I watch what I eat. I went on liquid test. I have a protein shake after each work out. I went from no cardio, to 20 minutes 3-4 times a week to 30 minutes 3-4 times a week, but no matter what, I stay at 173 (I use to be 163). Size wise, no changes. No matter if I lift heavy, or light. High reps or low reps.

    Is it that at 50 my body just wont change and now I am just maintaining? I just ordered $100 worth of suppliments to see if that does anything but beyond that I am at a loss. I seem to be investing time and energy but at the end of the day I dont see any meaningful results.
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    Dec 01, 2013 8:58 PM GMT
    As long as you look good keep it up icon_smile.gif I'm told from lifting too heavy you get bulky and your body changed to handle the heavy weight you lift
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    Dec 01, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidSo, I am doing my best to keep in shape. I get to the gym 4-5 times a week. I watch what I eat. I went on liquid test. I have a protein shake after each work out. I went from no cardio, to 20 minutes 3-4 times a week to 30 minutes 3-4 times a week, but no matter what, I stay at 173 (I use to be 163). Size wise, no changes. No matter if I lift heavy, or light. High reps or low reps.

    Is it that at 50 my body just wont change and now I am just maintaining? I just ordered $100 worth of suppliments to see if that does anything but beyond that I am at a loss. I seem to be investing time and energy but at the end of the day I dont see any meaningful results.


    no, it will change. it will just take longer than when you were in your 20s, due to your slowing metabolism. keep at it and make sure you are watching what you eat (and drink). count calories for a week or so to make sure you are below whatever number you should be for the results you desire. you don't indicate how long you've been at it, but you'll start to see results, eventually.
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    Dec 01, 2013 9:21 PM GMT
    What is your diet like??
    Have you tried shaking up your diet completely?

    How does your body respond if you are trying to cut??
    Have you had your T levels checked?.
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    Dec 01, 2013 10:24 PM GMT
    your body will respond it'll just happen a little slower due to age.

    how long do you stay with these individual programs? a month would be the minimum to see any kinds of results (Im not saying staying with the same lifting routine) so if your wanting to lose fat and or gain muscle you'd need to work on it for a while.

    and weight shouldn't matter as much but how your clothes fit.
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    Dec 01, 2013 11:07 PM GMT
    Anocxu saidWhat is your diet like??
    Have you tried shaking up your diet completely?

    How does your body respond if you are trying to cut??
    Have you had your T levels checked?.

    my t levels are shit. Im on androgel.

    i guess I can try the diet shake up. I ahve seen results when I cut my calories to below 2K
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    Dec 01, 2013 11:20 PM GMT
    Forget the androgel. If you're not weary of needles, go for injectable testosterone instead.
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    Dec 01, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
    I find im in the same boat as the OP. Does age make a difference in weight gain, loss and or muscle development?
    I work out at least 6 days a week. 30 cardio, 45 weight circuit. I must admit I do the same routine all the time. Should I change it up? Im not a fan of supplements at my age. Being Celiac I eat pretty clean, lots of water, no junk, fatty, high calorie stuff.
    I don't work out for anyone or reason other than I do love that 1hr of stress release. The fact that I look better is a bonus. My upper and lower body are more muscular than when I started 2.5 yrs ago, but my gut seems to stay the same. Which is always there!! LOL. My waist did go from a 38 to 33/34. icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 01, 2013 11:41 PM GMT
    hairyandym saidI find im in the same boat as the OP. Does age make a difference in weight gain, loss and or muscle development?
    I work out at least 6 days a week. 30 cardio, 45 weight circuit. I must admit I do the same routine all the time. Should I change it up? Im not a fan of supplements at my age. Being Celiac I eat pretty clean, lots of water, no junk, fatty, high calorie stuff.
    I don't work out for anyone or reason other than I do love that 1hr of stress release. The fact that I look better is a bonus. My upper and lower body are more muscular than when I started 2.5 yrs ago, but my gut seems to stay the same. Which is always there!! LOL. My waist did go from a 38 to 33/34. icon_smile.gif


    yes, muscle mass decreases with age. loss in muscle mass leads to decrease in metabolism, which means your body requires less food/drink (energy) overtime to maintain your desired weight.
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    Dec 02, 2013 1:24 AM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidSo, I am doing my best to keep in shape. I get to the gym 4-5 times a week. I watch what I eat. I went on liquid test. I have a protein shake after each work out. I went from no cardio, to 20 minutes 3-4 times a week to 30 minutes 3-4 times a week, but no matter what, I stay at 173 (I use to be 163). Size wise, no changes. No matter if I lift heavy, or light. High reps or low reps.

    Is it that at 50 my body just wont change and now I am just maintaining? I just ordered $100 worth of suppliments to see if that does anything but beyond that I am at a loss. I seem to be investing time and energy but at the end of the day I dont see any meaningful results.



    Try the Paleo diet. It makes a miraculous difference. You will return to your natural weight in 6 weeks and stay there with minimal exercise. Fat weight will convert to muscle weight thru time. "Watching" what you eat is pointless as are "common sense" diets. Your body needs to be feed it's evolutionary determined fuel not manufactured faux food.

    Low fat diets are a 20th century hoax. I 'm lucky if I get into the gym once a week and I would love to be 170 lbs again but I would have to go on a non-fat ,grain based, low calorie diet and run 2 miles a day to gain back the extra pounds of fat.
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    Dec 02, 2013 2:17 AM GMT
    I do not understand. I am 54 and eat like a teenager. Cheeseburger and fries just about every night after the gym. Big well balanced meal at lunch, grilled chicken, green beans, corn, bread, etc. but I cannot gain weight. I actually tried to raise my cholesterol numbers which are below normal range by adding fried food, and they do not change. I also use Androgel, but have had to cut back since my T levels were off the chart on my last labs (every three months).

    How do I put on weight? I weight train at least 5 times a week for at least 2 hours and cut way back on the cardio, just enough to get the blood flowing.
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    Dec 02, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    One other consideration is recovery time. I found that actually working muscle groups to failure, then allowing a couple of days for complete recovery (no pain, tightness), has helped me gain a little more. It does take longer to see changes. I also like Creatine at a fairly low dose. It helps to mobilize protein to the muscles.

    I don't have low-T so I don't take anything. Some people get HGH prescribed as part of anti-aging therapy. Talk to your MD about that, though.

    Also, testosterone can cause your balls (but not your dick) to shrink and they will never come back, so make sure you discuss this with your MD as well. I was with a guy who this happened to, and it was not a problem sensation wise, but he was pissed that he was not told this.
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    Dec 02, 2013 2:42 AM GMT
    I'd get a full medical workup instead of blowing $100 on supplements. Especially thyroid, diabetes, testosterone, etc
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    Dec 02, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
    I was kind of status quo myself up until 2 mos ago. Entered a Paleo diet challenge at my gym. I have achieved incredible results. Lost 25lbs and my work out numbers have risen. Give that a gander on google and see what you think.
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    Dec 02, 2013 4:38 AM GMT
    Eat cleaner, less oils and fats. Break up your cardio to twice daily sessions of at least 35 min ea. At 'our' age low T is almost a certainty. Find someone who does Age Management Medicine. Check your free testosterone, more important than your total testosterone. When you go to replacement therapy only consider injectable Testosterone Cypionate. Forget Androgel. I recommend twice weekly subcu injections. You only need a teeny weeny 25 guage needle on a little TB syringe. No other T replacement will give you better serum levels. I do Tue/Fri injections. This is not an anabolic steroid, your just replacing the normal levels of a natural hormone your body already makes. I'll be amazed if you don't notice an improvement in many more ares than just your lean muscle mass.
    Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n98LOFQwUGA
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    Dec 02, 2013 6:27 AM GMT
    Considering the way you used to look, you need to get down on your knees and suck my cock...erricon_redface.gif...thank the gods.
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    Dec 02, 2013 12:30 PM GMT
    I have people ask how I have low body fat, and I have always believed it was my hard exercise. Today, I believe it has much more to do with diet. I see people who work out like crazy, but they can't lose the pounds. Then I see what they eat, usually refined flours, fats, and sugars, and it all begins to make sense. Whole and raw foods seems to do the trick for many, and Dr. Joel Fuhrman was on PBS recently a few times with amazing insights on diet that changes people's health and sheds the weight, all eating healthy food to their full. They don't starve themselves, quite literally, they have begun a diet that truly nourishes the body with micro nutrients.

    I would look him up on Youtube.

    His diet is recommended to be remembered by GOMBS (Spelled down the page:

    Greens
    Onions
    Mushrooms
    Beans/Berries
    Seeds/Nuts

    Truly amazing stuff.

    Now, as for me, gaining weight is my goal. I was just informed I need more protein. I eat beans daily, but I need much more protein, I was told by my foot zoner. He suggests plant protein, like nuts and seeds, says to eat those through the day and it will keep my energy up. I've done that this week and was so pleased to see at the gym last night that I had my highest weight in a few years, maybe I'll leave that plateau I've been on for so long and actually gain more muscle? That would rock!

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    Dec 02, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
    Thank you gents!
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    Dec 02, 2013 4:02 PM GMT
    At 50 I would suggest not trying to add mass but to stay lean and tone. It's healthier to keep the weight off than to go through bulking phases to add mass. Just my suggestion
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    Dec 02, 2013 9:11 PM GMT
    jo2hotbod saidAt 50 I would suggest not trying to add mass but to stay lean and tone. It's healthier to keep the weight off than to go through bulking phases to add mass. Just my suggestion

    This.

    Age and genetics are a big factor as well (look at Frank Zane; he was never able to get big like his peers). Better to focus on being fit, trim, and in shape rather than having big muscles.

    And as we get older the skin sags and you can't do anything about it unless you resort to cosmetic surgery. No amount of working out is going to fix that.
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    Dec 02, 2013 9:14 PM GMT
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    jo2hotbod saidAt 50 I would suggest not trying to add mass but to stay lean and tone. It's healthier to keep the weight off than to go through bulking phases to add mass. Just my suggestion

    This.

    Age and genetics are a big factor as well (look at Frank Zane; he was never able to get big like his peers). Better to focus on being fit, trim, and in shape rather than having big muscles.

    And as we get older the skin sags and you can't do anything about it unless you resort to cosmetic surgery. No amount of working out is going to fix that.


    Frank Zane deflated like a balloon when he stopped taking steroids.