RealJock messing with the HTML. Anyone else noticing some strange formatting bugs?

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  Dec 07, 2008 3:26 PM GMT

  The last couple of days I've noticed a couple of things acting strangely here on RealJock.
  
  I'm using Firefox and it may not be doing this in IE, but for one, on the main page and profile pages, the left most column is at the top where it should be, but everything in the middle and the right is far below at the bottom of the page.
  
  Secondly, and far more minor, I've noticed that some replies on the forums don't have a separator line. Some do and some don't. It's very random.
  
  I assume Chris and Jeff are tweaking the code and this will go away in a few days, but was wondering if anyone else has noticed these things.

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  Dec 07, 2008 3:27 PM GMT

  
  Using Firefox and yep - same things.

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  Dec 07, 2008 4:30 PM GMT

  Hey guys,
  
  Sorry to hear about the layout problems. Yikes. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing the same thing when I use Firefox on either a pc or a mac. Can you tell me what version you are using and give me some profiles that are giving you problems so I can investigate further?
  
  Also, in forums, when you refer to a missing separator line are you talking about the gold border that goes around each reply? If so, is it just the line between two posts that is missing?
  
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  Chris
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  Dec 07, 2008 4:36 PM GMT

  I'm using Firefox 3.0.4.
  
  And just to throw another strange monkey wrench into it, I've noticed that when I first come to RJ, it looks fine. But if I click a link and then return to the main page, I see the messed up formatting.
  
  And yes, on the forums, I'm talking about the gold border. on some responses it's there, on others it's not, even within the same thread.

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  Dec 07, 2008 4:47 PM GMT

  Here are some screenshots:
  
  
  

  
  
  

  
  

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  Dec 07, 2008 4:55 PM GMT

  Hmmm. I can't replicate this and I'm using the same version of Firefox. Would you mind if I logged in as your account briefly to see if I can see it then? If I log in as you it's going to kick you off for a few minutes.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Chris
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  Dec 07, 2008 5:07 PM GMT

  No problem.

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  Dec 07, 2008 5:16 PM GMT

  Thanks. I just logged in as you and still didn't see it. Now I'm going to start removing a few things I've added in the last couple of days to see if there's any change. Let me know if you notice any improvement.
  
  Thanks again and sorry for the hassle.
  
  Chris
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  Dec 07, 2008 5:31 PM GMT

  I just rolled back one change I've made in the last few days to see if it will help. Let me know if there's any improvement.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Chris
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  Dec 07, 2008 5:34 PM GMT

  
  We're using the latest version of Firefox -and on the top of any page where the 'buttons' are for profile and photos etc.
  
  profile and photos overlap caps ONLINE then a vertical line then WHO'S VERIFIED overlapping 'buddy and hotlists'
  
  This doesn't happen when we use IE. It's always been this way no matter which version of Firefox we use...

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  Dec 07, 2008 5:35 PM GMT

  Thanks for you attention to this, Chris. I'm still seeing the same thing though. I know it's difficult to de-bug something if you can't see it for yourself.
  
  I'll just use IE insead of Firefox for a while.

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  Dec 07, 2008 5:39 PM GMT

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  We're using the latest version of Firefox -and on the top of any page where the 'buttons' are for profile and photos etc.
  
  profile and photos overlap caps ONLINE then a vertical line then WHO'S VERIFIED overlapping 'buddy and hotlists'
  
  This doesn't happen when we use IE. It's always been this way no matter which version of Firefox we use...

  
  
  I don't think that's necessarily a programming issue. It's likely a screen resolution issue that Firefox doesn't handle well. I have a large laptop (which I'm using now) and a smaller laptop with a small screen. If I use Firefox on the small laptop, I see the same overlapping you mentioned. If I use IE, it looks fine.
  
  As much as I like Firefox, it doesn't handle some things as well as IE does. That's not to say I think IE is a better browser. It's much worse in my opinion and I can't stand IE7. But the fact is most websites are written to conform to IE specs.

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  Dec 07, 2008 5:48 PM GMT

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  meninlove said
  We're using the latest version of Firefox -and on the top of any page where the 'buttons' are for profile and photos etc.
  
  profile and photos overlap caps ONLINE then a vertical line then WHO'S VERIFIED overlapping 'buddy and hotlists'
  
  This doesn't happen when we use IE. It's always been this way no matter which version of Firefox we use...

  
  
  I don't think that's necessarily a programming issue. It's likely a screen resolution issue that Firefox doesn't handle well. I have a large laptop (which I'm using now) and a smaller laptop with a small screen. If I use Firefox on the small laptop, I see the same overlapping you mentioned. If I use IE, it looks fine.
  
  As much as I like Firefox, it doesn't handle some things as well as IE does. That's not to say I think IE is a better browser. It's much worse in my opinion and I can't stand IE7. But the fact is most websites are written to conform to IE specs.

  
  
  I agree. We certainly don't have the most flexible site layout in the world but the issue of the overlapping navigation at the top of the site is most likely a resolution issue or an issue with your font settings in Firefox. Having said that, if we HAD come up with a more flexible layout, you guys wouldn't be having any of these problems so my apologies. I'll keep looking at this to see if I can find some kind of answer. I'll put up a post if I need you guys to check anything out. Thanks again for your help.
  
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  Dec 07, 2008 5:57 PM GMT

  Chris
  
  Don't sweat it. It's safe to assume RealJock isn't the only site having problems with Firefox and it's likely this will resolve itself with the next Firefox update.
  
  The layout problem is pretty consistent. The occassional missing gold border is really strange though. Intermittent gliches like that are so frustrating. I feel your pain, man!

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  Dec 07, 2008 6:08 PM GMT

  
  Ditto for us, Chris.
  
  RJ is a large ship to steer!
  
  -Doug and Bill of meninlove

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  Dec 08, 2008 3:52 PM GMT

  Hi guys. I just wanted you to know I think I found a laptop where I can replicate this problem (at least the owner claims it looks like the screen shots you posted). I'm not going to be able to get my hands on it until Wednesday but when I do I'll get to work on this immediately. Hopefully we'll have it cleared up by the end of this week or early next week at the latest.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Chris
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  Dec 08, 2008 4:56 PM GMT

  The one thing I've noticed is (on forums) when entering or exiting a page I am thrown under the last advertising banner instead of just entering at the top of the page...

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  Dec 16, 2008 11:22 PM GMT

  In case anyone else is having this problem, I've figured out one variable that has a consistent affect on this problem.
  
  In Firefox, you can increase or decrease the size of the webpage on the screen by pressing Ctrl and + or -. If you reduce the screen it will cause the problems mentioned in this thread.
  
  Increasing the screen size will fix it so that the page displays properly.

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  Dec 17, 2008 3:11 AM GMT

  Global_Citizen saidIn case anyone else is having this problem, I've figured out one variable that has a consistent affect on this problem.
  
  In Firefox, you can increase or decrease the size of the webpage on the screen by pressing Ctrl and + or -. If you reduce the screen it will cause the problems mentioned in this thread.
  
  Increasing the screen size will fix it so that the page displays properly.

  
  
  Yep. It could be you mistakenly did a ctrl + (or a ctrl + mousewheel) and didn't realize it.
  
  I only have problems with firefox when my internet connection is on a fritz, and it tends to load halfway or loads but doesn't apply page style. In those cases, I close the affected tabs and open a new one or just simply refresh.
  
  Also it could be some borked add-ons/extensions or something - either incompatible, out of date, or damaged. Try disabling all the add-ons/extensions and see if it helps. Then enable them again by groups to pinpoint the problem add-on/extension.
  
  

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  Dec 17, 2008 11:42 PM GMT

  Sedative said
  Yep. It could be you mistakenly did a ctrl + (or a ctrl + mousewheel) and didn't realize it.
  

  
  No, I know exactly what was causing it now, in hindsight. I just got a new laptop with some annoying "features" on the touchpad. If you move up and down on the far left side, it will enlarge or reduce the size of the browser window.
  
  The same resizing can be done with the Ctrl + or - combination, and Ctrl 0 returns it to the default size.
  
  Anytime I reduce the screen to below the default size, the formatting problems appear. If I view it at the default or larger, it appears as it was designed to appear.

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