Tobacco smoking?

  • TallGWMvballe...

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    Sep 18, 2007 5:24 PM GMT
    What do you guys think?
    I know some seemingly serious body builders and athletes that still smoke tobacco.
    Is it OK? good? bad?

    Let's hear some comments.
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    Sep 18, 2007 5:50 PM GMT
    I think it's a vile, filthy, disgusting, idiotic, unrefined, self-destructive habit.

    </bitchy ex-smoker>
  • iHavok

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    Sep 18, 2007 6:39 PM GMT
    I dont mind it, if I dont have to smell it.
    If you are a clean smoker, exhale downwind, brush your teeth, and wash your hands afterwards, then you can smoke like a chimney...

    My bf won't even smoke within ten feet of me. It's very considerate.
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    Sep 18, 2007 6:48 PM GMT
    Occasional cigars are no problem. But I can't stand cigarette smoke. Both my parents smoked but none of us kids do. I hate it.

    I'm not a big fan of dipping or chewing either, so the BF ain't allowed to do it when we are both in the same State.
  • iHavok

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    Sep 18, 2007 6:54 PM GMT
    I do love the smoke of a good hookah...
    mmmmmm
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    Sep 18, 2007 7:44 PM GMT
    "clean smoker..." yet another self-delusion
  • cacti

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    Sep 19, 2007 6:34 AM GMT
    I'm weird. I find the smell awful... don't like it in my eyes, on my clothes, carelessly seared onto my skin, on one's breath OR kissing a guy who smokes it. And I find it super unattractive to have such a destructive and pointless habit. BUT *and here's why I'm weird* I find the sight of an aloof guy puffing away leaning up against a wall almost irresistible. Usually these are Europeans, but don't ask me to explain that part.
  • Warren

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    Sep 19, 2007 1:35 PM GMT
    These athletes must not be as serious as you think. Smoking, among a laundry list of other adverse effects, will decrease your lung's capacity to get oxygen to your blood. So any truely serious athlete would never smoke, knowing that it can have a large negative impact on their performance.

    I feel its necessary to point out to everyone that even "casual" smoking (once a day or a couple times a week) is only slightly less detrimental than chain smoking. Don't kid yourselves, anytime you smoke, you are harming not only your lungs, but you heart, blood vessels, and every other organ in your body.

    It takes around 5yrs of non-smoking to return to the same general mortality rate as non-smokers.


    Sorry, just learned too much in school to understand why some people still smoke.
  • iHavok

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    Sep 19, 2007 2:18 PM GMT
    okay mindgarden, since you don't like the term "clean smoker" how about "tidy smoker." It's more appropriate I suppose, but within context means the same thing...
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    Sep 19, 2007 2:38 PM GMT
    PS my cigartte and pot smoking aunt just recieved her advanced empyhsema diagnosis.

    She can barely stand without gasping for air... I'm sure she'd be REAL pretty running a few laps.
  • DiverScience

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    Sep 19, 2007 3:03 PM GMT
    I find it gross, and smokers are unkissable to me. It pervades everything you do, your sweat, your clothes, your saliva, even your cum.

    I also could never take them home, as my mother and brother both have asthma and it sets off their breathing problems.

    So... no.
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    Sep 19, 2007 4:04 PM GMT
    My point was that smokers think that they are cleaning themselves up, but although they can no longer smell themselves, everyone else within a 3-meter radius still can.

    Um... BTW, I happened to share a hotel suite with some of the Cuban Olympic team, before the Athens games. (Long story, but it was the people who throw things.) They would be out training all day, and every evening, the whole team would be sitting in the hotel lobby, reviewing video of themselves, and puffing on cigars. Weird.
  • Nudista

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    Sep 19, 2007 4:20 PM GMT
    Whuuuwy.....!!! I suggest smokers not join this sight....or at least don't tell anyone here you smoke!!!

    I understand its bad for you...who doesn't know that by now...but have any of you realized how hard it is for some people to quit...??? Its one of the worst ADDICTIONS out there....and please spare me the "IF I QUIT SO CAN THEY" ego trip...

    I used to be a smoker...and luckily it was very easy for me to quit...my deal was more like 5 cigarettes a week with my drinking buddies. But thats not the case for everyone. There are plenty of people out there WANTING TO QUIT...but can't for the life of them......

    That said...I don't quite understand the typical profile showing "No Smokers" as their match...what a shallow thing to write...especially if you were once a smoker too.

    My only rule...No smoking in my house or car...and if some day you decide to quit...let me know how i can help.
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    Sep 19, 2007 4:36 PM GMT
    Why would any self-respecting ex-smoker want to be exposed to that insidious demon again?
  • cacti

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    Sep 19, 2007 4:36 PM GMT
    ^ So it's shallow find a smelly & destructive(deadly) habit unattractive? To write smokers off as bad or unequal people, would be shallow. I don't think anyone has said that in this topic, and I don't think anyone means it when they say they don't want to date or kiss someone who smells/tastes bad.
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    Sep 19, 2007 4:36 PM GMT
    I have asthma, year round allergies and I live in a city above which hover, "the brown cloud." I have a difficult enough time drawing breath to go and make it even more difficult.
  • cacti

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    Sep 19, 2007 4:37 PM GMT
    To be clear, my arrow was pointing at Apex, not you Aero ;)

    (We need an edit feature!)
  • cacti

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    Sep 19, 2007 4:40 PM GMT
    I guess Nickster is shallow too, and to a degree, myself since it kicks up my allergies. Yes, we should all be more sympathetic. /sarcasm

    You know, its not like anyone my age who smokes didn't know better when they started so I have about .000009 degrees of sympathy.
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    Sep 19, 2007 4:41 PM GMT
    Hey - I'm not shallow
  • cacti

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    Sep 19, 2007 4:44 PM GMT
    I was backing you up, Nickster. Hence the "/sarcasm"
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    Sep 19, 2007 4:45 PM GMT
    Yuck Yuck and MORE YUCK
  • Nudista

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    Sep 19, 2007 4:50 PM GMT
    Guys...all I'm saying is I think the world really turns up the heat way too much on current smokers....when many of these folks have a sincere ADDICTION that is stronger than they are...its beyond them to quit.

    Aero..Im not saying i want to be exposed to it again...but along comes Charley (if i was single)...he's a great guy....maybe even "the one" but guess what...he's a smoker too. Am I going to let him go...No Way. I'll do what i can to free him from his addiction..if he wants my help.

    Cacti...Sure you can find smoking unattractive....I do too....but its not going to keep me from getting to know someone.

    I think society seems to forget that smokers are victims...even if they chose to lift their first cigarrette. God only knows what brought them to do that. In the end...they are victims.
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    Sep 19, 2007 4:52 PM GMT
    I don't mind smokers myself and the weird thing is i actually like the smell of cigarette smoke. I on rare occasions smoke the herb known as marijuana but have been staying away from it for job reasons. the one positive thing i could say about cigarette smoking is that it represses your appetite and of course being a chef in training i can't be smoking because it also kills tastebuds.
  • cacti

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    Sep 19, 2007 5:13 PM GMT
    Apex, that is a different story because it certainly wouldn't keep me from getting to know someone either. It was your wording before that was a little polarizing. ;)
  • cacti

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    Sep 19, 2007 5:18 PM GMT
    But even in my limited experience, I can't recommend taking on any 'projects' by trying to get them to quit if you really don't like kissing them or being in close quarters often. You said yourself just how impossible it can be for some to quit. Again, that doesn't mean you write them off.. but unless you've fallen in love, I can't see any good reason to date someone if they have this kind of incompatible habit.