McDonald's orders 7,000 touchscreen kiosks to replace cashiers

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    Dec 07, 2013 4:27 AM GMT
    The problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool.
    http://www.neowin.net/news/mcdonalds-orders-7000-touchscreen-kiosks-to-replace-cashiers

    More here:
    "This Burger-Making Robot Could Revolutionize The Fast Food Industry"
    http://www.businessinsider.com/burger-robot-could-revolutionize-fast-food-industry-2012-11
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    Dec 07, 2013 4:28 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidThe problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool.
    http://www.neowin.net/news/mcdonalds-orders-7000-touchscreen-kiosks-to-replace-cashiers

    More here:
    "This Burger-Making Robot Could Revolutionize The Fast Food Industry"
    http://www.businessinsider.com/burger-robot-could-revolutionize-fast-food-industry-2012-11
    Canada's minimum wage is? Refresh our memory?
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    mybud said
    riddler78 saidThe problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool.
    http://www.neowin.net/news/mcdonalds-orders-7000-touchscreen-kiosks-to-replace-cashiers

    More here:
    "This Burger-Making Robot Could Revolutionize The Fast Food Industry"
    http://www.businessinsider.com/burger-robot-could-revolutionize-fast-food-industry-2012-11
    Canada's minimum wage is? Refresh our memory?


    Depends on where you are:
    http://canadaonline.about.com/od/labourstandards/a/minimum-wage-in-canada.htm

    The better question though is what is the cheapest price you can hire someone for in Alberta.
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    Dec 07, 2013 4:05 PM GMT
    Actually we have had kiosks in McDonald's for a long time in Switzerland. To be perfectly honest a kiosk is far easier to deal with than the typical dummy working in a McDonald's. The kiosk allows the store to focus on the kitchen and ensure spotless service.

    photo Kiosk_zpse140e567.jpg
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    "The problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool."

    lol, what an obvious agenda you have.


    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519241/report-suggests-nearly-half-of-us-jobs-are-vulnerable-to-computerization/
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    Dec 07, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
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    "The problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool."

    lol, what an obvious agenda you have.


    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519241/report-suggests-nearly-half-of-us-jobs-are-vulnerable-to-computerization/


    Agenda? What is actually more obvious is how shortsighted you are if you think these are the jobs we want to create and develop. The people required to develop these machines and the people to service them get paid a heck of a lot more.

    Of course given your rather limited experience base, I can't really fault you for being so small minded.
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    Dec 07, 2013 5:20 PM GMT
    topathlete said
    meninlove said

    "The problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool."

    lol, what an obvious agenda you have.


    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519241/report-suggests-nearly-half-of-us-jobs-are-vulnerable-to-computerization/

    The article does not compromise the point about the impact of increasing minimum wage. The long term trend is clear but increasing minimum wage can improve the economics of speeding up the transition possibly before the workforce can adjust to the changes.


    The primary problem I think is that if you increase minimum wage, then you have fewer jobs for people to get the experience to get better jobs. The vast majority of people earning minimum wage are either the young and experienced or those just re-entering the work force. Increasing minimum wage then doesn't increase wages overall, it increases wages for some while create more unemployment - or making joblessnes more sticky as small businesses are less inclined to hire.

    To that point as well though (of the article), looking back 20 years, many jobs that exist today didn't exist then - and certainly the jobs that do exist today and back then are now radically different in nature.
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    topathlete said
    riddler78 said
    topathlete said
    meninlove said

    "The problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool."

    lol, what an obvious agenda you have.


    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519241/report-suggests-nearly-half-of-us-jobs-are-vulnerable-to-computerization/

    The article does not compromise the point about the impact of increasing minimum wage. The long term trend is clear but increasing minimum wage can improve the economics of speeding up the transition possibly before the workforce can adjust to the changes.


    The primary problem I think is that if you increase minimum wage, then you have fewer jobs for people to get the experience to get better jobs. The vast majority of people earning minimum wage are either the young and experienced or those just re-entering the work force. Increasing minimum wage then doesn't increase wages overall, it increases wages for some while create more unemployment - or making joblessnes more sticky as small businesses are less inclined to hire.

    To that point as well though (of the article), looking back 20 years, many jobs that exist today didn't exist then - and certainly the jobs that do exist today and back then are now radically different in nature.

    Good points. It is possible to have intelligent discussion on RJ after all. Who woulda thought?


    Yeah personally with respect to McDonald's I think they're making a mistake. I would figure out how to make apps that people can use to order their meals but have a lot of front line service staff while completely automating the back end. People interact with technology poorly in general - or it takes a while to figure it out so having the people out front improves the image of "Service" while giving them options and teaching them to use less costly ways of interaction in the future.
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    topathlete said
    meninlove said

    "The problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool."

    lol, what an obvious agenda you have.


    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519241/report-suggests-nearly-half-of-us-jobs-are-vulnerable-to-computerization/

    The article does not compromise the point about the impact of increasing minimum wage. The long term trend is clear but increasing minimum wage can improve the economics of speeding up the transition possibly before the workforce can adjust to the changes.


    To a limited extent topathlete, and sorry Riddler, I don't bother with contrarians - waste of time and energy. Did you know some companies, like one I worked for, completely bypass the middlemen when it comes to outsourcing and sending work overseas? Technology.

    Now topathlete, it would be a curious experiment to remove minimum wage and and see if tech stops replacing workers. Guess what? It won't.
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    Dec 07, 2013 7:20 PM GMT

    However, looking at the BIG money makers slowly losing business to tech....

    https://www.dailydealmedia.com/789uprising-in-mobile-health-care-could-medical-apps-replace-doctors/

    Whoopsie, no minimum wage happening there..

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    Dec 07, 2013 8:37 PM GMT

    Here, something to think about, especially Riddler, who claims Christianity.

    [url]
    http://www.nationofchange.org/welcome-back-jesus-1386430680[/url]

    "“While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies, which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. ... A new tyranny is thus born. ... The thirst for power and possessions know no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.”

    "“One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. ... The worship of the ancient golden calf has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money and the dictatorship of an impersonal economy lacking a truly human purpose. The worldwide crisis affecting finance and the economy lays bare their imbalances and, above all, their lack of real concern for human beings. ...”
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    Dec 07, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    topathlete said
    meninlove said

    "The problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool."

    lol, what an obvious agenda you have.


    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519241/report-suggests-nearly-half-of-us-jobs-are-vulnerable-to-computerization/

    The article does not compromise the point about the impact of increasing minimum wage. The long term trend is clear but increasing minimum wage can improve the economics of speeding up the transition possibly before the workforce can adjust to the changes.


    To a limited extent topathlete, and sorry Riddler, I don't bother with contrarians - waste of time and energy. Did you know some companies, like one I worked for, completely bypass the middlemen when it comes to outsourcing and sending work overseas? Technology.

    Now topathlete, it would be a curious experiment to remove minimum wage and and see if tech stops replacing workers. Guess what? It won't.


    Yeah - I think your stupidity is the bigger barrier for you to overcome - so no apologies necessary. I completely understand and have quite some time - oh well, right around since the time you claimed to have some expertise because you were some assistant bank manager and therefore knew finance. icon_lol.gif
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    Here, something to think about, especially Riddler, who claims Christianity.

    [url]
    http://www.nationofchange.org/welcome-back-jesus-1386430680[/url]

    "“While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies, which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. ... A new tyranny is thus born. ... The thirst for power and possessions know no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.”

    "“One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. ... The worship of the ancient golden calf has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money and the dictatorship of an impersonal economy lacking a truly human purpose. The worldwide crisis affecting finance and the economy lays bare their imbalances and, above all, their lack of real concern for human beings. ...”


    So many theologians have a poor grasp of economics. Surprise surprise. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    *smells desperation in insults hurled at me, meaning I hit home*
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    *smells desperation in insults hurled at me, meaning I hit home*


    icon_lol.gif - it's kind of sweet that you probably believe that.
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    Dec 08, 2013 3:46 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    mybud said
    riddler78 saidThe problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool.
    http://www.neowin.net/news/mcdonalds-orders-7000-touchscreen-kiosks-to-replace-cashiers

    More here:
    "This Burger-Making Robot Could Revolutionize The Fast Food Industry"
    http://www.businessinsider.com/burger-robot-could-revolutionize-fast-food-industry-2012-11
    Canada's minimum wage is? Refresh our memory?


    Depends on where you are:
    http://canadaonline.about.com/od/labourstandards/a/minimum-wage-in-canada.htm

    The better question though is what is the cheapest price you can hire someone for in Alberta.
    Answer?..Your minimum wage is higher...You know something? You talk outta yo butt soooo much yo ass cheeks must be chapped...
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    Dec 08, 2013 5:36 AM GMT
    mybud said
    riddler78 said
    mybud said
    riddler78 saidThe problem with minimum wage laws... is that ultimately the competition is automation... but this is still cool.
    http://www.neowin.net/news/mcdonalds-orders-7000-touchscreen-kiosks-to-replace-cashiers

    More here:
    "This Burger-Making Robot Could Revolutionize The Fast Food Industry"
    http://www.businessinsider.com/burger-robot-could-revolutionize-fast-food-industry-2012-11
    Canada's minimum wage is? Refresh our memory?


    Depends on where you are:
    http://canadaonline.about.com/od/labourstandards/a/minimum-wage-in-canada.htm

    The better question though is what is the cheapest price you can hire someone for in Alberta.
    Answer?..Your minimum wage is higher...You know something? You talk outta yo butt soooo much yo ass cheeks must be chapped...


    I fail to see your point. You're a pretty bad advocate for whatever cause you're pushing for. As I've pointed out however, this fight towards higher minimum wages particularly in fast food is idiotic. Sorry you can't see that or that employers will in fact have alternatives - which are probably much better than the existing ones.
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    Dec 08, 2013 6:07 AM GMT
    Yeah right. You sure don't care about this. What an utter waste of taxpayers dollars, to support corporations in this manner.


    http://www.occupydemocrats.com/protests-higher-wages-continue-workers-turn-focus-banks/
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    What an utter waste of taxpayer dollars. Where are the fiscal Republicans to demand business pay enough to keep people off the dole?
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    Dec 09, 2013 11:08 PM GMT
    I do have a question since this thread seems to be moving along with content. What are you willing to pay for a Big Mac in U.S. dollars? Would you pay $7.06 less tax?