GOP Governor Chris Christie Accused of Creating Traffic Jams as Political Payback.

  • creature

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    Dec 10, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    The Chris Christie administration ordered two of the three access lanes of the George Washington bridge, which links Manhattan, NY to Fort Lee, NJ, to be closed for an alleged study.

    But on Monday, the top Port Authority official threw cold water on the Christie administration's claim, testifying at a state Assembly hearing that he didn't know about any traffic study. The Christie ally who ordered the closure, David Wildstein, resigned on Friday, reigniting questions about whether the traffic snarl created by the closure was all just political payback -- allegations that the Christie administration has dismissed as "crazy."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/chris-christie-bridge_n_4415953.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
  • metta

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    Jan 11, 2014 5:41 PM GMT
    This has been a huge story and no response....lol

    (Clarification: no response on RJ)



    BUSTED! Rachel Maddow Just Put the Pieces of the Christie Scandal Together and It’s AMAZING!

    http://aattp.org/busted-rachel-maddow-just-put-the-pieces-of-the-christie-scandal-together-and-its-amazing/


  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 11, 2014 5:55 PM GMT
    Another political scandal, big deal.
  • metta

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    Jan 11, 2014 6:06 PM GMT
    Conservative Checklist For Covering The Chris Christie Bridge Scandal.

  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 11, 2014 6:10 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob saidAnother political scandal, big deal.



    Well, he's currently the only person on the GOP side that beats Hillary in a head to head match up in 2016, so it's not surprising the Dems are foaming at the mouth with this "opportunity" for them.
    I would definitely vote for Christie anyday over Hillary. There is something about that woman that just doesn't add up.
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    Jan 11, 2014 6:27 PM GMT
    metta8 saidConservative Checklist For Covering The Chris Christie Bridge Scandal.



    "Uploads from Media Matters"

    figures
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    Jan 11, 2014 7:29 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 saidConservative Checklist For Covering The Chris Christie Bridge Scandal.




    Responding to the latest Metta8 "copy and paste" drive-by posting.

    Interesting how for all intents and purposes the video shows just ONE media outlet, Fox News, while on your side, ABC / CBS / NBC / MSNBC / CNN have been devoting wall to wall coverage to this. Do you see anything particularly lopsided about that?

    yes I do
    Its called being a republican phoney journakistic enterprise Where the word journalistic is in heavy quotes
  • creature

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    Jan 11, 2014 7:56 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    creature saidThe Chris Christie administration ordered two of the three access lanes of the George Washington bridge, which links Manhattan, NY to Fort Lee, NJ, to be closed for an alleged study.

    But on Monday, the top Port Authority official threw cold water on the Christie administration's claim, testifying at a state Assembly hearing that he didn't know about any traffic study. The Christie ally who ordered the closure, David Wildstein, resigned on Friday, reigniting questions about whether the traffic snarl created by the closure was all just political payback -- allegations that the Christie administration has dismissed as "crazy."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/chris-christie-bridge_n_4415953.html?utm_hp_ref=politics


    Wow, so glad you posted this. I totally missed this story. icon_rolleyes.gif


    This thread was started on December 10th.
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    Jan 11, 2014 10:11 PM GMT
    Rachel missed another interesting tie-in: state Sen. Weinberg was the Lt. Gov. candidate of Jon Corzine whom Christie defeated in 2009. That was the first year NJ had a Lt. Gov on the ballot as the addition of the office was passed by ballot referendum in a previous election.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 11, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
    This story has already run its course and will be old news by next week.
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    Jan 11, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
    NJDewd saidRachel missed another interesting tie-in: state Sen. Weinberg was the Lt. Gov. candidate of Jon Corzine whom Christie defeated in 2009. That was the first year NJ had a Lt. Gov on the ballot as the addition of the office was passed by ballot referendum in a previous election.

    She did mention that.
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    Jan 11, 2014 10:38 PM GMT
    NJDewd saidRachel missed another interesting tie-in: state Sen. Weinberg was the Lt. Gov. candidate of Jon Corzine whom Christie defeated in 2009. That was the first year NJ had a Lt. Gov on the ballot as the addition of the office was passed by ballot referendum in a previous election.


    What has been the reaction to the story from your local friends and family?
    We need a separate thread for comments from NJ residents.
  • PolitiMAC

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    Jan 11, 2014 11:29 PM GMT
    Of course they're all gonna say it's a huge conspiracy. Republicans are evil monsters who want to murder us all, right? Sure, it's his own word, but it looks like someone's gone around his back and done this of their own accord.

    Now we can all sit at our computers and bitch about how either that is the case, or it's the conspiracy. But are we gonna know right now? Probably not.

    But if you have to choose between incompetence and a conspiracy theory to explain the wrong doing, always go to incompetence. In this case, it appears it's on Christie's aide's head.
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    Jan 12, 2014 12:20 AM GMT
    PolitiNerd saidOf course they're all gonna say it's a huge conspiracy. Republicans are evil monsters who want to murder us all, right? Sure, it's his own word, but it looks like someone's gone around his back and done this of their own accord.

    Now we can all sit at our computers and bitch about how either that is the case, or it's the conspiracy. But are we gonna know right now? Probably not.

    But if you have to choose between incompetence and a conspiracy theory to explain the wrong doing, always go to incompetence. In this case, it appears it's on Christie's aide's head.

    Wrong as usual.
    1. He has a history of this sort of behavior. A documented history.
    2. This is far from over; his top appointee to the Port Authority is about to be indicted for contempt, and has already indicated that he'll sing for immunity. The prosecutors aren't stupid---the only immunity he'll be offered is if the song is compelling enough. It will be.
    3. There are other pending requests for documents; almost certainly we're not at the bottom of this.
    4. Gov. Stay-Puft's apologists---and their twinky foreign allies---are going to be very disappointed. He's toast.
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    Jan 12, 2014 12:23 AM GMT
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    NJDewd saidRachel missed another interesting tie-in: state Sen. Weinberg was the Lt. Gov. candidate of Jon Corzine whom Christie defeated in 2009. That was the first year NJ had a Lt. Gov on the ballot as the addition of the office was passed by ballot referendum in a previous election.


    What has been the reaction to the story from your local friends and family?
    We need a separate thread for comments from NJ residents.
    Accidentally posted in All Things Gay...Anyone know how to move it to here?
  • creature

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    Jan 12, 2014 1:45 AM GMT
    I saw the latest Rachel Maddow segments on this story, and her guest, New Jersey State Senator Loretta Weinberg made a good point: Chris Christie may not have had any knowledge of the intent of the traffic problems, but the way he runs his administration likely encourages that behavior.

    Rachel provided several examples of Christie's political retributions for those who have crossed him. He is the definition of "bully."
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    Jan 12, 2014 2:21 AM GMT
  • PolitiMAC

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    Jan 12, 2014 2:55 AM GMT
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    PolitiNerd saidOf course they're all gonna say it's a huge conspiracy. Republicans are evil monsters who want to murder us all, right? Sure, it's his own word, but it looks like someone's gone around his back and done this of their own accord.

    Now we can all sit at our computers and bitch about how either that is the case, or it's the conspiracy. But are we gonna know right now? Probably not.

    But if you have to choose between incompetence and a conspiracy theory to explain the wrong doing, always go to incompetence. In this case, it appears it's on Christie's aide's head.

    Wrong as usual.
    1. He has a history of this sort of behavior. A documented history.
    2. This is far from over; his top appointee to the Port Authority is about to be indicted for contempt, and has already indicated that he'll sing for immunity. The prosecutors aren't stupid---the only immunity he'll be offered is if the song is compelling enough. It will be.
    3. There are other pending requests for documents; almost certainly we're not at the bottom of this.
    4. Gov. Stay-Puft's apologists---and their twinky foreign allies---are going to be very disappointed. He's toast.


    Well, we'll just have to see icon_wink.gif A lot of the Left are always extremely sure of themselves before the whole truth comes out.

    We'll see if he truly is what you say or it may be what he says it is.

    Oh, and I'm an otter icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 12, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
    Interesting - David Wildstein's atty at the legislative hearing where he repeatedly invoked the 5th, told lawmakers if they granted immunity from prosecution to his client this "would make a very interesting and informative session."
  • Lincsbear

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    Jan 12, 2014 11:15 PM GMT
    Christie is certainly losing that image of the different politician who rises above the squabbling and gets things done.

    It`s too far out from 2016 to say how it might affect his chance at the presidency, though his own party, especially the right, seem to hate him for being too friendly with Obama.
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    Jan 13, 2014 3:26 PM GMT
    My favorite part (and there's a lot of great parts) about the whole fiasco is the Wildstein dude, back when he was hiding out anonymously as "Wally Edge" on his political blogsite, ran a full-on right-wing blitz on Jersey public school teachers (only the ones who didn't like Christie's pension-busting tactics, of course) for politicking on company time (and the taxpayer's dime! Oh noes!). Specifically, "Exposing" Facebook followers' post times, a controversy ready-made for right-wing indignation!

    So, as a reward from Christie for his efforts ("Wally Edge" was the name of an ex-NJ governor that helped establish the bi-state Port Authority), look at what Wildstein's been getting PAID to do, up until now? Politicking on the taxpayers' dime... AND getting paid a six-figure salary to do it? How novel! icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 13, 2014 5:31 PM GMT
    (EDIT: My bad, FitStriver! I was so busy typing I didn't notice you posted a separate thread on this... http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3629278)

    Steve Kornacki, who interestingly worked unknowingly for Wildstein back when the latter was under the "Wally Edge" pseudonym, also posited a theory that has some meat on its bones, too, over the weekend.

    http://www.msnbc.com/steve-kornacki/the-bridgegate-theory-you-havent-heard

    This one revolves around the billion-dollar redevelopment plan just a block away from the three-lane toll exit for the GW Bridge. Kornacki referred to the site as "for decades... perhaps the most coveted slice of real estate in all of New Jersey." The site was once part of a busted Mob-developer bribery scheme in the 1970s.

    It seems the financing for this current development was heavily dependent on easy access to the bridge, and the reduction in lanes was possibly done to screw with those financing plans for part of this development as they were being finalized.

    MSNBCAs those closures played out in September – and as his calls were ignored by Christie officials – (Fort Lee Mayor Mark) Sokolich wrote an email to Christie’s point man at the Port Authority, Bill Baroni, asking him to reopen them and asking this question: “What do I do when our billion dollar redevelopment is put on line at the end of next year?”

    There was good reason for the project to be on Sokolich’s mind. The redevelopment of the land has been laying out in several phases. Twin 47-floor towers are currently under construction on half of it, with residents expected to begin moving in late this year. But back in September, when the lanes were closed, financing had not yet been finalized for the redevelopment of the second half of land – a plan to build a mix of commercial, residential and parking facilities. Speedy access to the George Washington Bridge – and to those access lanes in particular – is what made the land particularly valuable, both to developers and potential tenants.

    A study commissioned by Fort Lee a year earlier had stressed that, once the site was redeveloped, anyone living or working at it would be able to drive to the bridge expeditiously even during rush hour. And in a brochure, the lead developer of the second half of the project – a development called Hudson Lights – played up its proximity to the bridge.

    Notably, a Bergen Record report from last September 16 announced that financing had – after an unexpected delay – been finalized for the Hudson Lights portion of the redevelopment. That date – September 16 – came three days after New York officials at the Port Authority intervened to put an end to the lane closures.
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    Jan 13, 2014 5:49 PM GMT
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303595404579318403306044302?mod=djemalertNEWS

    Documents released Monday indicate that meetings arranged between top commissioners to Gov. Chris Christie and Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop were abruptly canceled without reason last year—providing evidence of Mr. Fulop's claim that he was cut off after he decided not to endorse the governor.

    The documents viewed by The Wall Street Journal through a public records request showed communications between Mr. Fulop and Christie administration staff members arranging the meetings in June and July, until the commissioners all canceled one meeting after another.
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:24 PM GMT
    blkapollo saidhttp://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303595404579318403306044302?mod=djemalertNEWS

    Documents released Monday indicate that meetings arranged between top commissioners to Gov. Chris Christie and Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop were abruptly canceled without reason last year—providing evidence of Mr. Fulop's claim that he was cut off after he decided not to endorse the governor.

    The documents viewed by The Wall Street Journal through a public records request showed communications between Mr. Fulop and Christie administration staff members arranging the meetings in June and July, until the commissioners all canceled one meeting after another.


    Wall Street JournalIn an August email from Mr. Fulop to Mr. Baroni, the mayor indicated he thought there were political undertones to the cancellations.

    "I am not sure if it is a coincidence that your office canceled a meeting several weeks back that seemed to be simultaneous to other political conversations," he wrote. "Prior to that you were always very responsive and I sincerely hope the two issues are not related."


    I'll bet Fulop got "radio silence," too! icon_wink.gif

    (EDIT: I neglected to remember "right after Fulop" was in the e-mail chain on the Port Authority scandal... whoever it was with the infamous "radio silence" quip!)

    Even though it's a Murdoch enterprise, glad to see the WSJ continuing to keep up with this facet of the tale as well as Bridgegate.

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/13/22290548-christie-aides-canceled-meetings-with-mayor-who-wouldnt-endorse-gov?lite

    NBCNewsFulop's spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said in the days leading up to the cancellations there were "multiple conversations among Fulop allies to Christie allies stating no endorsement would be forthcoming prior to and on July 18th."
  • metta

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    Jan 14, 2014 2:19 AM GMT
    NJ Governor Chris Christie is under federal investigation for Sandy relief fund spending.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/politics/christie-feds-investigating-sandy-ads/