India goes 'back to the Dark Ages' by banning gay sex — again

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    Dec 11, 2013 3:08 PM GMT
    India's Supreme Court on Wednesday threw out a 2009 ruling by a lower court that had decriminalized gay sex, in a major setback for the cause of gay rights in the world's largest democracy.

    The top court stated that only India's parliament could change the law, by deleting a section of the penal code dating back to the 19th century, thus ruling that the Delhi High Court had overstepped its powers with its decision four years ago.


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    Dec 11, 2013 4:27 PM GMT
    This country still considers women less than cattle. They should be the last country making decisions on what goes on in the bedrooms.
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    Pathetic.
    They have in the past changed laws without approval from the parliament. All those religious bigots saying that all religion oppose homosexuality isn't even true as in Hinduism there isn't even anything remotely related against homosexuality. On the other hand, you can find many old scriptures and paintings supporting homosexuality.

    No government in power is going to bring law in the parliament to oppose this issue as all the political parties are busy appeasing the Muslim and Christian population, whose votes play a big role during the elections.
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:34 PM GMT
    Let's hope nobody tells Scalia about this...
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:46 PM GMT
    wait, it left the Dark Ages? When?
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:50 PM GMT
    Actually, what India needs is more gay sex.
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:54 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidActually, what India needs is more gay sex.


    and a lot less heterosexual sex lol
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    Dec 11, 2013 7:32 PM GMT
    Jaggal saidMaybe if you just kick all the muzzies to pak land and Christians deported to Europe, or thrown in the sea, the country will progress icon_smile.gif

    Appaarently, most of the oposition to legalizing gay sex comes from the hindus, who are about 80% of the population (not that the concept is popular among muslims, but who are only 10-12% of the population.) I wonder how the hindus square their opposition to gay sex, with the homosexual activity of some of their own gods? It's ok for gods, but not for mortals?
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    Dec 11, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
    somersault saidwait, it left the Dark Ages? When?


    BUMP.
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    Dec 11, 2013 7:54 PM GMT
    themachine saidLet's hope nobody tells Scalia about this...

    Scalia already despises gays and opposes gay civil rights, the Constitution be damned. He doesn't need this case to continue his blind homophobia on the US Supreme Court.
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    Dec 11, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
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    Jaggal saidMaybe if you just kick all the muzzies to pak land and Christians deported to Europe, or thrown in the sea, the country will progress icon_smile.gif

    Appaarently, most of the oposition to legalizing gay sex comes from the hindus, who are about 80% of the population (not that the concept is popular among muslims, but who are only 10-12% of the population.) I wonder how the hindus square their opposition to gay sex, with the homosexual activity of some of their own gods? It's ok for gods, but not for mortals?

    Where did you read that the most of the opposition came from Hindus? Yeah the petition filed had combination of Hindu, Muslim and Christian fundamentalists. It's easier to mold the opinion of Hindu population in comparison to those of Christians and Muslims.

    In Indian politics Hindus are very divided in terms of which party to vote for, so during elections it's mostly Muslims and Christians are the one who basically decide which party will be in majority. That is one of the reason why in near future no established political party will take up this issue in the parliament. Very recently a new party has emerged during the state elections, but for the upcoming national elections they don't have enough presence all over India, which makes them incapable of leading the parliament.
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    Dec 11, 2013 9:27 PM GMT
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    Jaggal saidMaybe if you just kick all the muzzies to pak land and Christians deported to Europe, or thrown in the sea, the country will progress icon_smile.gif

    Appaarently, most of the oposition to legalizing gay sex comes from the hindus, who are about 80% of the population (not that the concept is popular among muslims, but who are only 10-12% of the population.) I wonder how the hindus square their opposition to gay sex, with the homosexual activity of some of their own gods? It's ok for gods, but not for mortals?

    Where did you read that the most of the opposition came from Hindus?

    From an Indian political commentator on a USA public radio station. He agreed with your thought that no political party would bring up the issue in the parliament, but said it was because of opposition among hindus to legalizing gay sex.
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    Dec 14, 2013 7:18 AM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    Jaggal saidMaybe if you just kick all the muzzies to pak land and Christians deported to Europe, or thrown in the sea, the country will progress icon_smile.gif

    Appaarently, most of the oposition to legalizing gay sex comes from the hindus, who are about 80% of the population (not that the concept is popular among muslims, but who are only 10-12% of the population.) I wonder how the hindus square their opposition to gay sex, with the homosexual activity of some of their own gods? It's ok for gods, but not for mortals?

    Well I see a great difference in the way people in and out of India sees it. Well yes India has 80% of Hindu population but Hindus consists of many sub religions(Buddhism, Jainism etc.), SO we can't definitely say that opposition is majorly coming from Hindus. In facts Hindus are very flexible and tolerant for other religions and concepts, Even homosexuality which was explored and accepted in ancient Indian cultures. To support this I would give example of Nepal which is only Hindu nation in the world, They have legalized Gay marriages.
    Now on actual issue, Its very very sad the supreme court of India criminalized Gay sex. and I really didn't expected this from our judiciary, I had big faith in it. with this verdict I believe hopes for LGBT in India is almost negligible. As The leaders on parliament, most of them are old, conservative people who would not understand mindset of new emerging young India and they would never reverse this verdict. So LGBTs in India has 2 options go back to closet or wait for one more generation and hope the next gen politicians will understand the matter and do what is right.
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    Dec 14, 2013 7:45 AM GMT
    leo_ said
    Or settle down in either goa or nepal! I love both the places.

    Well Nepal Yes, But Goa it is still in India and Gay sex is banned there as well icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 14, 2013 8:18 AM GMT
    The earth needs less human breeders in all governments and less breeders PERIOD. The human population has double in just a few decade. If any government has any common sense and intelligence, homosexuality should be encouraged, not stopped. Humankind will destroy the environment by breeding like virus.
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    Dec 14, 2013 4:42 PM GMT
    xybender saidThe earth needs less human breeders in all governments and less breeders PERIOD. The human population has double in just a few decade. If any government has any common sense and intelligence, homosexuality should be encouraged, not stopped. Humankind will destroy the environment by breeding like virus.
    A good, valid point. Good luck trying to educate the politicians along with all the NARROW MINDED, BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS regarding this issue.
  • crazy_rajiv84

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    Dec 14, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    Well I don't see any reason why they would criminalize it, infact doing suck thing is a Crime in itself, they are basically taking away a basic human right that is living with privacy , dignity and to make the choice of who you are.
    Also for some of the above comments, being gay is not just about population control. Even if world would be under populated I would want to be a homo cause that's who I am. I would probably donate my sperm for the cause but wont turn straight for it.