Oh My God! I am criminal in my own country because I am Gay..

  • garg1188

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    Dec 11, 2013 3:44 PM GMT
    Today, on Dec 11, 2013, Supreme court of India cancelled Delhi High court ruling that consensual sex between same sex adults can not be criminalized because it violates 'fundamental and basic human right of freedom and equality' as prescribed in constitution. According to article 377 of Indian Penal code, any unnatural sex against order of nature is punishable by max life imprisionment in jail. This law was incorporated by British during colonial period 120 yrs back. Supreme court denied to strike down this article which High court had said unconstitutional. Supreme court said that it can not change law, it can be changed or striked down only by parliament. But it is very difficult that Parliamentarians will go against will of majority of people of India which are against any gay rights and equality..however, gay right activists will appeal a review
    petition in Supreme court...
    I am sad that I am criminal in my own country because I am Gay...icon_sad.gificon_sad.gif
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    Dec 11, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
    I'm sorry bud. What an appalling decision by India.
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    Dec 11, 2013 3:50 PM GMT
    I'm Sorry Man. Come to America?
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    Dec 11, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
    JarIan saidI'm Sorry Man. Come to America?

    Isn't sodomy still illegal in a ton of states?
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    Dec 11, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    MCB_ said
    JarIan saidI'm Sorry Man. Come to America?

    Isn't sodomy still illegal in a ton of states?



    When was the last time someone was persecuted for Sodomy in America?
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    Dec 11, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    Is the Court saying no part of the Penal Code can be ruled unconstitutional? That laws can only be rescinded by Parliament? Doesn't that cripple the Indian Constitution?
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    Dec 11, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    MCB_ said
    JarIan saidI'm Sorry Man. Come to America?

    Isn't sodomy still illegal in a ton of states?

    I know!
    We're all criminals or recent criminals.
    But so are the straight people who go down on their partners which, as far as I know, is all of them.
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    Dec 11, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
    I saw this in the news and it's pretty awful. icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:04 PM GMT
    MCB_ said
    JarIan saidI'm Sorry Man. Come to America?

    Isn't sodomy still illegal in a ton of states?


    Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003),[1] is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court. In the 6–3 ruling, the Court struck down the sodomy law in Texas and, by extension, invalidated sodomy laws in thirteen other states, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory.

    Nope, since 2003 we and the heteros too can sodomize all we want.
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:05 PM GMT
    Ah. Some political science student I am.

    I actually learned about that case in high school.
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
    MCB_ said
    JarIan saidI'm Sorry Man. Come to America?

    Isn't sodomy still illegal in a ton of states?

    Still technically on the books in 18 States, where Republican legislators refuse to remove the sodomy laws despite the 2003 US Supreme Court ruling in Lawrence v. Texas invalidating them. They keep hoping that Lawrence will be reversed by a more Conservative future Court, and the Constitutionality of their State sodomy laws will be restored for legal enforcement. Plus many Republican legislators don't want to be seen voting in any way for anything that's gay-favorable, their Conservative Right Wing base would throw them out of office. It's much the same reason that kept anti-Black "Jim Crow" laws on the books, mostly in the South, and that also still exist unrepealed in some States to this day.

    http://www.dallasvoice.com/decade-later-sodomy-ban-remains-10140169.html

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    Dec 11, 2013 4:10 PM GMT
    How quickly a high court can change its' opinion!
    17 years earlier, in 1986, SCOTUS(the Supreme Court) wrote the following opinion regarding our rights:

    "The majority opinion, written by Justice Byron White, argued that the Constitution did not confer "a fundamental right to engage in homosexual sodomy."[1] A concurring opinion by Chief Justice Warren E. Burger cited the "ancient roots" of prohibitions against homosexual sex, quoting William Blackstone's description of homosexual sex as an "infamous crime against nature", worse than rape, and "a crime not fit to be named." Burger concluded: "To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching."
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:10 PM GMT
    leo_ saidWell, its the burning topic all over today! Do remember my friend not all criminals are punished in our country. I think india should not go back to 120 years instead a few more years than that and realize we found Kamasutra!


    Indeed, Vatsayan's ancient Kaamsutra and ancient Ajanta caves describe and depict homosexuality....
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:14 PM GMT
    Our Indian brothers should take heart in knowing that opinions can change rapidly as demonstrated here in the US in a short period of time.

    I will find a way to contribute money and energy too. We are all brothers in winning our rights.
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:24 PM GMT
    Zigenare saidOur Indian brothers should take heart in knowing that opinions can change rapidly as demonstrated here in the US in a short period of time.

    I will find a way to contribute money and energy too. We are all brothers in winning our rights.


    hope it gets changed soon..
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:27 PM GMT
    garg1188 saidToday, on Dec 11, 2013, Supreme court of India cancelled Delhi High court ruling that consensual sex between same sex adults can not be criminalized because it violates 'fundamental and basic human right of freedom and equality' as prescribed in constitution. According to article 377 of Indian Penal code, any unnatural sex against order of nature is punishable by max life imprisionment in jail. This law was incorporated by British during colonial period 120 yrs back. Supreme court denied to strike down this article which High court had said unconstitutional. Supreme court said that it can not change law, it can be changed or striked down only by parliament. But it is very difficult that Parliamentarians will go against will of majority of people of India which are against any gay rights and equality..however, gay right activists will appeal a review
    petition in Supreme court...
    I am sad that I am criminal in my own country because I am Gay...icon_sad.gificon_sad.gif


    so sorry to hear this. when will people learn, sexuality IS NOT a crime! if there is already an online petition protesting this egregious decision, could you provide the link? even though many of us live in america/canada/uk with our own personal problems, we should realize how fortunate we really are.
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    Dec 11, 2013 4:35 PM GMT
    Sorry to hear your horrifying news.

    Who knew I could think even less of religion. But since the world insists, why not join the party:

    May those who condemn us rot in hell.