In Iowa??? ...whoda thunk it!

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    Dec 09, 2008 2:49 AM GMT
    Gay marriage goes before Iowa Supreme Court

    (Des Moines, Iowa) The Iowa Supreme Court this week will hear arguments in a case challenging the state’s ban on same-sex marriage.

    Send / ShareAdd CommentBoth sides on the marriage issue will be given 30 minutes on Tuesday to make their arguments. It is the first state Supreme Court to hear a same-sex marriage case since California voters last month overturned a high court ruling that struck down that state’s ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional.

    The Iowa case centers around a state appeal of a ruling by a Polk County judge that struck down a state law limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples.

    Six same-sex Iowa couples went to court in 2005 after the Polk County recorder denied them marriage licenses.

    Last year County Judge Robert Hanson ruled that the law violated the constitutional rights of due process and equal protection. ...

    “This is not even a close constitutional call,” Taylor told The Des Moines Register. “If you examine the law in other states, the case law in Iowa is at least as strong, if not stronger. The Iowa Supreme Court has made it clear from its inception that the law includes broader guarantees of equality than federal law. "

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    Dec 09, 2008 8:08 AM GMT
    I'm very excited about this, I live right over the river from Iowa. I hope the decision supports gay marriage, it would make the fight so much easier here in Nebraska as well as the plains in general. I think there is a strong propensity for it to happen in Iowa, its already more gay friendly than Nebraska is.
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    Dec 10, 2008 7:59 AM GMT
    Ok, only 2 responses to this thread, both mine. Kind of brings this thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/338668 to light doesn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif
  • chitown_mofo

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    Dec 10, 2008 8:11 AM GMT
    I've always found Iowa to be pretty laid back in my limited experiences with it. I'm glad they are at least hearing it
  • Hunter9

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    Dec 10, 2008 8:15 AM GMT
    Maverick75 saidOk, only 2 responses to this thread, both mine. Kind of brings this thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/338668 to light doesn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif


    oh gimme a break... if iowa legalizes gay marriage, you'll get your attention you so badly crave... until then, just relax a bit, eh?
  • Hunter9

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    Dec 10, 2008 8:17 AM GMT
    and thinking about that a bit more, who exactly would get married in Iowa if gay marriage were legalized there? all the homo-gay iowans have migrated to the west coast.
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    Dec 10, 2008 8:24 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    Maverick75 saidOk, only 2 responses to this thread, both mine. Kind of brings this thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/338668 to light doesn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif


    oh gimme a break... if iowa legalizes gay marriage, you'll get your attention you so badly crave... until then, just relax a bit, eh?


    Oh good one, so I'm the attention whore. icon_rolleyes.gif Stay on topic would you? And put your shirt back on. icon_lol.gif

    If you can relate gay marriage with the history of interracial marriage in this country, its interesting to note that Iowa was only the third state in the country to legalize interracial marriage, back in 1851 or so. Over one century before the US Supreme Court made it legal in the entire country.
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    Dec 10, 2008 8:35 AM GMT
    Maverick75 said
    Hunter9 said
    Maverick75 saidOk, only 2 responses to this thread, both mine. Kind of brings this thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/338668 to light doesn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif


    oh gimme a break... if iowa legalizes gay marriage, you'll get your attention you so badly crave... until then, just relax a bit, eh?


    Oh good one, so I'm the attention whore. icon_rolleyes.gif Stay on topic would you? And put your shirt back on. icon_lol.gif

    If you can relate gay marriage with the history of interracial marriage in this country, its interesting to note that Iowa was only the third state in the country to legalize interracial marriage, back in 1851 or so. Over one century before the US Supreme Court made it legal in the entire country.


    Your little tidbit of Iowa's history is a perfect example of why nobody is paying attention to the potential of legalized gay marriage there. So they legalized interracial marriage and it took the Supreme Court an additional 100 years to do so... does that have anything to do with the fact that nobody pays attention to Iowa and what happens there is virtually irrelevanticon_question.gif You'll be better off once you accept that fact and move on.
    Have a splendid eveningicon_exclaim.gif
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    Dec 10, 2008 8:47 AM GMT
    if all fails just go rock out with slipknot, don't forget your mask
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    Dec 10, 2008 8:47 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    Maverick75 said
    Hunter9 said
    Maverick75 saidOk, only 2 responses to this thread, both mine. Kind of brings this thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/338668 to light doesn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif


    oh gimme a break... if iowa legalizes gay marriage, you'll get your attention you so badly crave... until then, just relax a bit, eh?


    Oh good one, so I'm the attention whore. icon_rolleyes.gif Stay on topic would you? And put your shirt back on. icon_lol.gif

    If you can relate gay marriage with the history of interracial marriage in this country, its interesting to note that Iowa was only the third state in the country to legalize interracial marriage, back in 1851 or so. Over one century before the US Supreme Court made it legal in the entire country.


    Your little tidbit of Iowa's history is a perfect example of why nobody is paying attention to the potential of legalized gay marriage there. So they legalized interracial marriage and it took the Supreme Court an additional 100 years to do so... does that have anything to do with the fact that nobody pays attention to Iowa and what happens there is virtually irrelevanticon_question.gif You'll be better off once you accept that fact and move on.
    Have a splendid eveningicon_exclaim.gif


    Nobody forced you to post in this thread. You can feel free to move on.
  • kinetic

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    Dec 10, 2008 8:51 AM GMT
    I like Iowa. I was there one summer when I was ten after my uncle married his now ex wife (for the wedding) and I had a blast!
    Mind you, I know noting of the state aside from my visit; I have a brother that just moved there a month ago with a girlfriend. So drink yr hatorade, Iowa is cool w/ me. ^_^
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    Dec 10, 2008 9:01 AM GMT
    kinetic saidI like Iowa. I was there one summer when I was ten after my uncle married his now ex wife (for the wedding) and I had a blast!
    Mind you, I know noting of the state aside from my visit; I have a brother that just moved there a month ago with a girlfriend. So drink yr hatorade, Iowa is cool w/ me. ^_^

    Well, that's cool and all, but this isn't about how great or sucky Iowa is, its about gay marriage and our gay rights in general. It should be important no matter what state it is. Its another domino falling, you know?
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    Dec 10, 2008 9:18 AM GMT
    the only way this could get any less exciting as a legal precedent is if booger county, montana or humpasquaw, ny decide to make "landmark" decisions about this as well.
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    Dec 10, 2008 9:34 AM GMT
    Maverick75 said
    kinetic saidI like Iowa. I was there one summer when I was ten after my uncle married his now ex wife (for the wedding) and I had a blast!
    Mind you, I know noting of the state aside from my visit; I have a brother that just moved there a month ago with a girlfriend. So drink yr hatorade, Iowa is cool w/ me. ^_^

    Well, that's cool and all, but this isn't about how great or sucky Iowa is, its about gay marriage and our gay rights in general. It should be important no matter what state it is. Its another domino falling, you know?

    I knows
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    Dec 10, 2008 9:45 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidthe only way this could get any less exciting as a legal precedent is if booger county, montana or humpasquaw, ny decide to make "landmark" decisions about this as well.


    Good one dancerjack. Your wisdom is most valuable.
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    Dec 10, 2008 10:01 AM GMT
    i do what i can. next!
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    Dec 10, 2008 10:08 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidi do what i can. next!


    Could you do it by staying on topic next time? Thanks.
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    Dec 10, 2008 10:10 AM GMT
    exactly how have i gone off topic? i said i didn't think iowa making this decision was very interesting. what's off topic about it? are you trying to get a snit with me? i wouldn't be so quick to take an attitude with you if the expression on your face every time i see one of your posts didn't piss me off.
  • hartfan

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    Dec 10, 2008 10:20 AM GMT
    I think that there is a tendency to see Iowa as a backwoodsy redneck state because most of the state is cornfields and little else, but I think that's not an accurate perception. There is a culture of political activism and involvement there, as evidenced by the Iowa caucuses being the first in the country every presidential election. Obama had his first shot at winning the presidency when he triumphed over Clinton there. In fact, you can certainly make the case that Iowa is more progressive than other states in the Midwest like Indiana and even Ohio. No doubt that pales in comparison to the big cities in the Northeast and the West Coast, but then Prop 8 passed in California. I am hopeful that Iowa can be a pioneer for middle America to come around on this issue.

    Sidenote: All my contact with Iowans point toward them as very helpful, decent and nice people.
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    Dec 10, 2008 10:22 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidexactly how have i gone off topic? i said i didn't think iowa making this decision was very interesting. what's off topic about it? are you trying to get a snit with me? i wouldn't be so quick to take an attitude with you if the expression on your face every time i see one of your posts didn't piss me off.
    Hit ignore, then you wouldn't have to see it.
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    Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM GMT
    Where all my single for life people!
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    Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM GMT
    hartfan saidI think that there is a tendency to see Iowa as a backwoodsy redneck state because most of the state is cornfields and little else, but I think that's not an accurate perception. There is a culture of political activism and involvement there, as evidenced by the Iowa caucuses being the first in the country every presidential election. Obama had his first shot at winning the presidency when he triumphed over Clinton there. In fact, you can certainly make the case that Iowa is more progressive than other states in the Midwest like Indiana and even Ohio. No doubt that pales in comparison to the big cities in the Northeast and the West Coast, but then Prop 8 passed in California. I am hopeful that Iowa can be a pioneer for middle America to come around on this issue.

    Sidenote: All my contact with Iowans point toward them as very helpful, decent and nice people.


    I think that's a pretty accurate view of Iowa. White Iowans voting for a black candidate was quite a nice surprise for Obama supporters. Last year, I think, they even passed a law dealing with bullies and gays in the Iowa school systems. That was a big deal around here.
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    Dec 11, 2008 10:40 AM GMT
    Oh look another article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/us/10iowa.html