Flower Power.....

• TannerMasseur
  
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  Dec 16, 2013 10:33 AM GMT

  "If u love a flower, don't pick it up.
  Because if u pick it up it dies
  and it ceases to be what u love.
  So if u love a flower let it be.
  Love is not about possession.
  Love is about appreciation." ---Osho
  
  
  How do u interpret this analogy?
  
  
  U can look but don't touch!
  
  Only admire from afar.....
  
  Love requires touch, a pleasing of all the senses.....

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  Dec 16, 2013 1:15 PM GMT

  My take on the writer's intent is that if you truly appreciate someone you'll not try to change what made them what they are. But the logic is flawed. Jazz, funk, gospel, the blues, and more are the creative musical output of a group of people whose ancestors withstood terrible oppression and who are still treated unequally in society. Does this therefore mean racism ought to be condoned because music might suffer without it?
  Or, say a person (by no means necessarily gay) is bullied as a child. S/he decides to not take the abuse any more. After only a few months of this kid's practicing a martial art, the tormentors pick on the person once too often. Problem solved. And if the former victim stays with their "combat sport" a body reflecting that will emerge. SO...using the poet's reasoning we ought to be OK with bullying since it sometimes produces hunks and Amazons.
  

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  Dec 16, 2013 4:05 PM GMT

  I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think the poet means "Love is not about possession.
  Love is about appreciation."
  Of course, we *want* to possess most things we love. It's not always a bad thing.

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  Dec 16, 2013 5:28 PM GMT

  JohnSpotter saidI'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think the poet means "Love is not about possession.
  Love is about appreciation."
  Of course, we *want* to possess most things we love. It's not always a bad thing.

  
  
  lol, I got into an interesting debate about this on FB. If you pluck a flower you kill it, and the same would happen if you decapitated your BF. Makes sense.
  
  However, we got into a discussion about possessing another, and that we are all free beings. I pointed out that some forms of possession are in fact love, but not of the romantic adult nature. Pets, and kids.
  
  I think you completely missed the point, Tanner. It's not saying look but don't touch or anything like that.

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• HottJoe
  
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  Dec 16, 2013 5:37 PM GMT

  This is how I feel about clipping a bird's wings and putting it in a cage... Or for that matter the horrible lives of killer whales in sea world.

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  Dec 16, 2013 5:42 PM GMT

  okonomiyaki saidMy take on the writer's intent is that if you truly appreciate someone you'll not try to change what made them what they are. But the logic is flawed. Jazz, funk, gospel, the blues, and more are the creative musical output of a group of people whose ancestors withstood terrible oppression and who are still treated unequally in society. Does this therefore mean racism ought to be condoned because music might suffer without it?
  Or, say a person (by no means necessarily gay) is bullied as a child. S/he decides to not take the abuse any more. After only a few months of this kid's practicing a martial art, the tormentors pick on the person once too often. Problem solved. And if the former victim stays with their "combat sport" a body reflecting that will emerge. SO...using the poet's reasoning we ought to be OK with bullying since it sometimes produces hunks and Amazons.
  

  
  Smh. Just what RJ needs: a justification for white supremacy and bullying.

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  Dec 16, 2013 6:20 PM GMT

  HottJoe saidThis is how I feel about clipping a bird's wings and putting it in a cage... Or for that matter the horrible lives of killer whales in sea world.

  
  Just to make you feel better, birds can be very happy this way. I keep my birds in a big cage. It usually has the door open and they either stay inside or climb to the top of the cage and look out the window.
  They don't seem to like to fly much. They prefer to climb.
  I often see them stuggling to climb somewhere that they could easily fly to. Go figure.
  Sometimes one of them will get a little frantic and fly around the house screaming too much. If this goes on too long, I'll cut his feathers down a little. He's gotten used to it and doesn't even squirm. For some reason, he goes back to being calm after this. I can read the birds pretty well and think they're happy. They never bite me, which is unusual.
  What birds seem to want most is a good vantage point to observe the house.
  Whales swimming around in their own poop... that's another story.

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• TannerMasseur
  
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  Dec 17, 2013 9:04 AM GMT

  The analogy wouldn't be good for artists trying to make a living:
  
  If u love art, u can look at it & appreciate it, but u can't possess it so never purchase it.

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  Dec 17, 2013 3:39 PM GMT

  I wroteJust to make you feel better, birds can be very happy this way. I keep my birds in a big cage.

  
  Then again, not everyone gives their birds the bells and whistles I do.
  

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  Dec 17, 2013 6:25 PM GMT

  JohnSpotter said

  I wroteJust to make you feel better, birds can be very happy this way. I keep my birds in a big cage.

  
  Then again, not everyone gives their birds the bells and whistles I do.
  

  
  
  U've accommodated ur birds well with amenities

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