Grindr Interview

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    Dec 17, 2013 6:33 PM GMT
    An interesting (and revealing/entertaining) interview with the founder of Grindr by ButtMagazine: http://www.buttmagazine.com/magazine/interviews/joel-simkhai/

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    Dec 17, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
    Per the interview excerpt below, it looks like they're going to upgrade the app to auto-block profiles based on personal preferences. Similar to how you can select based on race, build and religion on gay dating sites. Expect a firestorm of criticism!

    Do you think Grindr, or any location-based dating app for that matter, is here to stay?
    Yes. We’re at five percent of where we could be — not just with Grindr, but with services across the board. The future is making it faster and easier to meet. If, like you, you’re looking for bigger guys… So how can I just show you those bigger guys? Or how can I show you the bigger guys that are into you? Like, people have deal breakers, right?
    Are you gonna add a deal breaker function to Grindr?
    Maybe. Why do we need to find out, thirty minutes into the conversation, that the guy’s a smoker?
    What are your deal breakers?
    Smoking is one of them.
    So you would never hook up with a smoker?
    I hate kissing a smoker. I hate the whole smell and everything to do with smoking. That, to me, is very unsexy. And if they’re not my type, that’s a deal breaker too, obviously.
    What is your type?
    I don’t quite have a type, per se. Sexiness can come in a lot of ways, it can be in the smile, it can be in the eyes, it can be in the arms…
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    Dec 18, 2013 12:02 AM GMT
    Something called ButtMagazine has articles?icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 18, 2013 1:36 AM GMT
    Butt of course!
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    Dec 18, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
    I'm glad I was born at the time of bars, of eye contact, innuendo, mystery, allowing for chemistry, breaking barriers of preconceptions, greater tolerances, et. al.

    Neither of my two 10-year guys would have been my type by smart phone. I'd have missed out on those relationships which now mean the world to me.

    It would be interesting to see stats showing whether or not these apps are successfully bringing together men in long-term relationships, but we probably don't have the stats from beforehand when we were in hiding and there'd be so many muddying variables, like people being more honest about their sexuality now, society acceptance, etc., that I doubt a centrifuge could spin out a fair comparison.

    If str8s have similar apps, delineating exactly what type of sex they like as well as all their deal breakers, maybe then we could compare the number of successful pairings between now and pre-tech times.

    My sense of it is that this could lead towards a lonelier world. What I find especially sad is that right when gay people are being accepted, are allowed out of the closet, they're closing themselves into their own little worlds.
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    Dec 19, 2013 1:11 AM GMT
    Well, I love how he sorta contradicts himself...

    "So you would never hook up with a smoker?
    ... And if they’re not my type, that’s a deal breaker too, obviously.

    What is your type?
    I don’t quite have a type, per se. Sexiness can come in a lot of ways, it can be in the smile, it can be in the eyes, it can be in the arms…"


    So - if they're not his type that's a deal-breaker... yet he has no type...?? And he's in a monogamous relationship - LOL! This guy is kinda whacked. Smart...? But whacked.
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    Dec 19, 2013 1:15 AM GMT
    @ theAntijock

    Honestly - I can see your point(s). And to some degree I agree... but anyone who's spent time in the real-world knows that there's a LOT of grey territory. Meeting guys out has many advantages - but there are plenty of people (now) that have met through such apps. Not entirely different from meeting through a web-site in certain aspects. Though on the web there's usually room for a LOT more info.

    I've met guys successfully in both ways.
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    Dec 19, 2013 1:16 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidSomething called ButtMagazine has articles?icon_confused.gif


    Yes. It does. Some of them are actually interesting. Many of the guys on there are actually seem pretty smart/interesting.
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    Dec 19, 2013 2:37 PM GMT
    manboynyc said@ theAntijock

    Honestly - I can see your point(s). And to some degree I agree... but anyone who's spent time in the real-world knows that there's a LOT of grey territory. Meeting guys out has many advantages - but there are plenty of people (now) that have met through such apps. Not entirely different from meeting through a web-site in certain aspects. Though on the web there's usually room for a LOT more info.

    I've met guys successfully in both ways.


    I met my 2nd 10-year guy in an AOL chat. We lived 3000 miles apart. My issue is using online or apps to not meet.

    In the chat room we had opportunity to both interact and to see how we responded to others. I don't recall his profile. But I could make one up for him and frankly I wouldn't go for it. We didn't even trade pics for a long time back in the early AOL days. Turned out he was a handsome Hollywood guy but still not my type. It just happened that we related really well and developed intimacy.

    So an app with deal breaker blocks (he was a terrible smoker and wound up dying early) or just a few partial texts to each other instead of the hours we spent getting to know each other might have prevented our relationship from forming.

    How successful was speed dating? Why app it?

    To my point on creating loneliness, even if you find someone online or by app, well great, but now take your face out of your phone because there are other people in the world. I was stunned by how I see my nephew socializing. Four or five guys in a room, no one talking, everyone's face in their phone? Ick.

    I don't recall our desktops (did we even have laptops back then?) covering our faces when we got off AOL and left the house.

    Another thing is that ageing in this society turns elders invisible. Why would anyone want to isolate themselves in their 20s with a phone when life's eventually gonna do that for ya?
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    Dec 21, 2013 6:05 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidI think today if one were to be looking for someone it is best to use a combination of online tools and of course real life meeting. The online tools allow access to a pool of men you would have never been able to tap and real life meeting is necessary to validate the veracity of profiles.


    ... agreed. No replacement for meeting in real life. I never get too attached without that aspect. Real-life chemistry is key to success.