Same sex marriage is now legal in ... UTAH!!!!!

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    Dec 20, 2013 9:45 PM GMT
    I don't fucking believe it. A federal court struck down their same sex marriage ban as unconstitutional and didn't stay the ruling, so gay couples are applying for marriage licenses.

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57291925-78/ban-judge-sex-court.html.csp
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    Dec 20, 2013 9:47 PM GMT
    thebearerofbadnews saiddidn't say that it was legal yet.


    Wrongo downerman. An appeals court could change things, but as it stands now, it's legal.
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    Dec 20, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
    thebearerofbadnews said
    showme said
    thebearerofbadnews saiddidn't say that it was legal yet.


    Wrongo downerman. An appeals court could change things, but as it stands now, it's legal.



    who said i was downing anything. just because the court struck it down doesn't make it official.


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    Dec 20, 2013 10:16 PM GMT
    article: "The state’s current laws deny its gay and lesbian citizens their fundamental right to marry and, in so doing, demean the dignity of these same-sex couples for no rational reason," wrote U.S. District Court Judge Robert J. Shelby. "Accordingly, the court finds that these laws are unconstitutional."

    Shelby’s ruling is the first decision to address whether a state may ban same-sex marriages or refuse to recognize legal same-sex marriages since the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark decision this summer that struck down the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

    Wow, I find this very much overwhelming. It feels like being fossilized. We are living fossils witnessing our own history.

    Is this what will bring us back to the Supreme Court?
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    Dec 20, 2013 10:34 PM GMT
    theantijock saidarticle: "The state’s current laws deny its gay and lesbian citizens their fundamental right to marry and, in so doing, demean the dignity of these same-sex couples for no rational reason," wrote U.S. District Court Judge Robert J. Shelby. "Accordingly, the court finds that these laws are unconstitutional."

    Shelby’s ruling is the first decision to address whether a state may ban same-sex marriages or refuse to recognize legal same-sex marriages since the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark decision this summer that struck down the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

    Wow, I find this very much overwhelming. It feels like being fossilized. We are living fossils witnessing our own history.

    Is this what will bring us back to the Supreme Court?


    This and/or a case like it. Many have been filed and the decisions will follow.
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    Dec 21, 2013 2:55 AM GMT
    So what would be wrong with 7 guys getting married to each other?
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    Dec 21, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSo what would be wrong with 7 guys getting married to each other?


    The entire legal framework of marriage, like how assets are allocated, works only if there are only two parties yo the contract. Gender doesn't matter, but numbers do.
  • FireDoor211

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    Dec 21, 2013 3:00 AM GMT
    woohoo, imma go marry me a mormon!
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    Dec 21, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    Congrats Utah!
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 21, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSo what would be wrong with 7 guys getting married to each other?


    You are probably joking but I seriously wouldn't have a problem with 7 guys marrying each other, or 4 men and 3 women marrying each other or whatever. People should be able to do what they want.
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    Dec 21, 2013 3:24 AM GMT
    definitely Karma at work here, since Utah and its out of state Mormons were the ones who funded CA Yes Prop 8 campaign


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  • Joeyphx444

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    Dec 21, 2013 3:40 AM GMT
    I wonder what AZ will do with the states surrounding it legalizing (CA, NM, guess Utah now) or opening up to legalizing gay marriage (NV, maybe CO)
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    Dec 21, 2013 4:06 AM GMT
    whooaaaa!!! UTAH!?!?!?! courageous judge - i'm sure he's receiving a mountain of death threats for this one.

    congrats to all in utah!
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    Dec 21, 2013 5:04 AM GMT
    Yeah, that's my State. Can't believe this actually just happened. I thought we'd be near the last.
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    Dec 21, 2013 6:37 AM GMT
    My favorite part of Judge Shelby's opinion was that he compared denying same-sex marriage recognition to denying gun owners their Second Amendment rights. I think that might play well in Utah...
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    Dec 21, 2013 7:03 AM GMT
    FireDoor211 saidwoohoo, imma go marry me a mormon!


    You could do a lot worse. Wonderful people in my experience.
  • bischero

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    Dec 21, 2013 7:10 AM GMT
    Shocking.

    Meanwhile... Colorado still just has civil unions. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 21, 2013 7:38 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidI wonder what AZ will do with the states surrounding it legalizing (CA, NM, guess Utah now) or opening up to legalizing gay marriage (NV, maybe CO)


    Arizona has a large mormon population that has spilled over from Utah as does Idaho. Idaho has a branch of Brigham Young University in Rexburg, so there is a large number of Mormons around there. We shall see what transpires in those two states; a court judge could enforce equality in those two states as has happened in Utah.
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    Dec 21, 2013 8:07 AM GMT
    Whipmagic said
    mx5guynj saidSo what would be wrong with 7 guys getting married to each other?


    The entire legal framework of marriage, like how assets are allocated, works only if there are only two parties yo the contract. Gender doesn't matter, but numbers do.


    I was in a 10-year relationship with a bi guy and for a while, I think it was about a year, we did have a female fulltime for him and we did discuss at some point (before those two broke up--though my friendship with her remained) we did discuss all living together into our futures.

    I know that any marriage between me & him with her on the side or him & her with me on the side (though it was always me and him, bitches) would have been somewhat weird but I don't think I ever would have felt that I was purposely being segregated out of marriage by the state not recognizing legally a union of three.

    Because they wouldn't be preventing me from getting married. He could marry her, I could marry her, he could marry me. So we wouldn't then be prevented from having what everyone else has. We would just have what they have with some optional equipment thrown in at no extra charge.
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    Dec 21, 2013 9:53 AM GMT
    scruffLA saiddefinitely Karma at work here, since Utah and its out of state Mormons were the ones who funded CA Yes Prop 8 campaign


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    This.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 21, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    This is a shock, of all states to get gay marriage, stubbornly conservative Utah. Well it is still an awesome thing. Now if the Governor of Utah would stop whining like a two year old baby and accept the fact that gay marriage is absolutely no threat to what he is trying to defend. The breeders are demolishing heterosexual marriage very well on their own and don't need any outside helpicon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 21, 2013 4:43 PM GMT
    showme said
    theantijock saidIs this what will bring us back to the Supreme Court?


    This and/or a case like it. Many have been filed and the decisions will follow.


    And then does making marriage legal nationally wipe clean all state laws against marriage for gay people or would individual states still be able to harass us as they do with anti-sodomy laws still on their books?

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  • that_fella

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    Dec 21, 2013 6:21 PM GMT
    Oh my, Way to go Utah icon_biggrin.gif
    There are lots of folks (polygamists) in Utah that support Gay Marriage, if for no other reason than to piggyback on the strides that it's making...
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    Dec 21, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    showme said
    theantijock saidIs this what will bring us back to the Supreme Court?


    This and/or a case like it. Many have been filed and the decisions will follow.


    And then does making marriage legal nationally wipe clean all state laws against marriage for gay people or would individual states still be able to harass us as they do with anti-sodomy laws still on their books?

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    A Jersey boy! You're one of the only guys on here who gets me, aren't you?


    Hunh?