When do you think gay marriage will be legal in all 50 states?

  • WhoDey

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    Dec 21, 2013 1:28 PM GMT
    In 5 years?
    10?
    20?
    Longer?
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    Dec 21, 2013 2:44 PM GMT
    The process might be slowed by articles like this: The secular case against gay marriage:
    http://tech.mit.edu/V124/N5/kolasinski.5c.html
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    Dec 21, 2013 2:53 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidThe process might be slowed by articles like this: The secular case against gay marriage:
    http://tech.mit.edu/V124/N5/kolasinski.5c.html

    Didn't read it all the way through, but the publishing date alone made me roll my eyes. The article is from 2004, so anybody who's been alive the last 10 years, can easily refute it.
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    Dec 21, 2013 3:09 PM GMT
    Which state will have the dubious distinction of being the last to legalize same-sex marriage? (No prizes for guessing anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon line.)
  • MadeinMich

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    Dec 21, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    Not sure I care. I'm more interested in knowing when am I going to meet a gay couple that manages to have a mynogomous relationship for longer than 15 years. Then I'll begin to wonder about the number of states with gay marriage rights.
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    Dec 21, 2013 4:43 PM GMT
    Less than 5, as I'm sure this tax season is going to cause quite the clusterfuck.

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  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 21, 2013 4:49 PM GMT
    WhoDey saidIn 5 years?
    10?
    20?
    Longer?
    I think longer because of the stubbornly conservative southern states like South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, and especially Texas. Out west, states like Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, and especially Idaho will also be very resistant to gay marriage.
  • janu88

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    Dec 21, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    In states? 30 years
    In europe 20 years for the eastern part.
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    Dec 21, 2013 8:09 PM GMT
    You gays are ruining everything. I just got some end of year tax stuff that let me know that if LingLang and I had married (hah) we could file as a married couple for the first time, even though we could not legally marry in our state. So it kind of is legal in every state, at least federally speaking.
  • wellwell

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    Dec 21, 2013 8:47 PM GMT
    ... When gays finally realize that they need NO permission to marry, from anyone; other than, their potential spouse/s !
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
    It might be a slow process but we will see full equality of human rights someday.icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    bhp91126 said
    JohnSpotter saidThe process might be slowed by articles like this: The secular case against gay marriage:
    http://tech.mit.edu/V124/N5/kolasinski.5c.html

    Didn't read it all the way through, but the publishing date alone made me roll my eyes. The article is from 2004, so anybody who's been alive the last 10 years, can easily refute it.

    Just curious. What has the publish date have to do with the article's argument? (not that I agree with it)
    These are the same arguments I see in today's papers.
    I was just thinking we should be aware of them.
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    Who thinks they will live long enough to see it come to pass?
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
    wellwell said... When gays finally realize that they need NO permission to marry, from anyone; other than, their potential spouse/s !


    And thats why one is a very contented True Blue Aussie poofter. As my husband and I have not sought from the government permission to love and be loved; until death do us part.
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:26 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    wellwell said... When gays finally realize that they need NO permission to marry, from anyone; other than, their potential spouse/s !


    And thats why one is a very contented True Blue Aussie poofter. As my husband and I have not sought from the government permission to love and be loved; until death do us part.


    and what if ,one of you is for example in the hospital, and the other ISNT recognized as his legal partner, and he cant visit him or have any part in a decission ift have to be made?
    death do might do you apart a bit earlier then expected if your legal husbend make the good decisions for you and not a distant cousin or his mom.
  • wellwell

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    Dec 21, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    ...A simple power-of-attorney solves that problem.
  • Whipmagic

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    Dec 21, 2013 10:47 PM GMT
    My best guess is that it will happen through a Loving-like ruling by the Supreme Court, and rather sooner than later. Otherwise, it'll be more than a century until Mississippi comes on board - in fact, they just repealed slavery last year after it had been unenforceable since the Civil War.

    How quickly will SCOTUS get to this? They have pretty much telegraphed in Windsor that they are waiting for this to shake out on the state level as long as they can, meaning they will only get involved when we see a split between Circuit Courts on whether the right to marry who you love is protected under the federal constitution. So far, we don't have a circuit court ruling on this, and even less a circuit split. We should get circuit court rulings in the next year, some of them likely in our favor. Then it all depends on what the more conservative circuits, like the 5th and the 11th with MS and AL are doing. If they concur, we have won, if they disagree, SCOTUS will take it up. And by the, it all depends on who the judges are. Has Ginsberg retired, and if so, who picked her successor? President H. Clinton, or President Cruz? Had Scalia a heart attack when he read the opinion by Shelby, pretty much mocking him? In court and on high sea, you're in god's hand (if you believe in one).
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:47 PM GMT
    Ashdod said
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    wellwell said... When gays finally realize that they need NO permission to marry, from anyone; other than, their potential spouse/s !


    And thats why one is a very contented True Blue Aussie poofter. As my husband and I have not sought from the government permission to love and be loved; until death do us part.


    and what if ,one of you is for example in the hospital, and the other ISNT recognized as his legal partner, and he cant visit him or have any part in a decission ift have to be made?
    death do might do you apart a bit earlier then expected if your legal husbend make the good decisions for you and not a distant cousin or his mom.


    Has not been a issue in the past, and is not a issue now, as we have de facto status; also death is not a issue for me, I don't need someone holding my hand.

    Also if something did go wrong, we would deal with it, for better or for worse, and that would not be without rights.
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:49 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    Ashdod said
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    wellwell said... When gays finally realize that they need NO permission to marry, from anyone; other than, their potential spouse/s !


    And thats why one is a very contented True Blue Aussie poofter. As my husband and I have not sought from the government permission to love and be loved; until death do us part.


    and what if ,one of you is for example in the hospital, and the other ISNT recognized as his legal partner, and he cant visit him or have any part in a decission ift have to be made?
    death do might do you apart a bit earlier then expected if your legal husbend make the good decisions for you and not a distant cousin or his mom.


    Has not been a issue in the past, and is not a issue now, as we have de facto status; also death is not a issue for me, I don't need someone holding my hand.

    Also if something did go wrong, we would deal with it, for better or for worse.


    At least some states in the US allow it. Can't say the same about Australia. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
    Import said
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    Ashdod said
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    wellwell said... When gays finally realize that they need NO permission to marry, from anyone; other than, their potential spouse/s !


    And thats why one is a very contented True Blue Aussie poofter. As my husband and I have not sought from the government permission to love and be loved; until death do us part.


    and what if ,one of you is for example in the hospital, and the other ISNT recognized as his legal partner, and he cant visit him or have any part in a decission ift have to be made?
    death do might do you apart a bit earlier then expected if your legal husbend make the good decisions for you and not a distant cousin or his mom.


    Has not been a issue in the past, and is not a issue now, as we have de facto status; also death is not a issue for me, I don't need someone holding my hand.

    Also if something did go wrong, we would deal with it, for better or for worse.


    At least some states in the US allow it. Can't say the same about Australia. icon_wink.gif


    Because it's not an issues for the stats in Australia, it a federal thing. Something Obama did not want to happen in America, because then you would be bitching on him to do something, and him giving that power to the sates meant he could give you gays lip service and do nothing.

    But one is still better off as a true Blue Aussie poofter, and most of you American gaysicon_wink.gif
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    Dec 21, 2013 10:59 PM GMT
    wellwell said...A simple power-of-attorney solves that problem.
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  • ASHDOD

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    Dec 21, 2013 11:04 PM GMT
    it was an example, you can be discriminated in a thousend ways, and the solution is called marrige [ u can change the word for reunion ar any other shit] but with the true meaning like the str8s, then you will be equal.
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    Dec 21, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
    Ashdod saidit was an example, you can be discriminated in a thousend ways, and the solution is called marrige [ u can change the word for reunion ar any other shit] but with the true meaning like the str8s, then you will be equal.


    Albeit one was born a Bonafide homosexual, and never received the rights and benefits that heterosexual and bisexuals have received, I still see myself as a equal, as my sexuality does not define one as a whole. yet straight men also fight for equality.

    For me much of this is nothing more than a state of mind, and I'm in a good place, as a homosexual. Sadly many of the left feel this gives them the right to hate on me with abuse. Because they don't think I'm doing anything to help them with whats missing in their lives.

    I have no wish to make marriage a political issue in my life, because where is the love with that?
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    Dec 21, 2013 11:25 PM GMT
    Trolliosis said
    Ex_Mil8 saidWhich state will have the dubious distinction of being the last to legalize same-sex marriage? (No prizes for guessing anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon line.)
    Probably Alaska actually...


    Some people can't see past their own bigotry.
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    Dec 21, 2013 11:28 PM GMT
    When the National Goverment stops being a chicken sh!t.