Utah - Judge refuses to stay homosexual marriages

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    Dec 23, 2013 9:45 PM GMT
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/23/22021385-federal-judge-allows-same-sex-marriage-in-utah-to-continue?lite
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    Dec 23, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
    Big win for all the people of Utah who believe in equality for all.
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    Dec 23, 2013 9:59 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidI saw that earlier. Coolio!


    I guess my news feed is a bit slow.
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    Dec 23, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    If I were the 10th Circuit or Judge Shelby, I'd have refused to grant the stay as well, based on the state's shitty reasoning for their request for the stay. I read the documentation...a first grade dropout could have come up with better reasoning than the Utah AG's Office. And they're supposed to be lawyers!
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    Dec 24, 2013 1:53 AM GMT
    libertpaulian saidIf I were the 10th Circuit or Judge Shelby, I'd have refused to grant the stay as well, based on the state's shitty reasoning for their request for the stay. I read the documentation...a first grade dropout could have come up with better reasoning than the Utah AG's Office. And they're supposed to be lawyers!

    I haven't heard a reasonable argument from anyone ever anywhere yet.
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    Dec 24, 2013 3:55 AM GMT
    Yay for us.

    Is there a lawyer in the house? I have more questions.

    How is it that an amendment to a state's constitution can be found to be unconstitutional under the federal constitution and thereby, I presume, either wiped off the state's constitution entirely or somehow rendered null & void aka lame, when at the same time anti-sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional yet we still see legal arrests made such as...
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/28/louisiana-sodomy-arrests/2595071/

    I think this is my question: say a state didn't try to make us illegal by constitutional amendment but by city, county or state ordinance. Would they be able to harass us by sending cops to our weddings even if it wouldn't go anywhere in court?

    And if so, how is that stopped? How do we stop the sodomy arrests even while having the Supreme Court ruling?
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    Dec 24, 2013 8:09 PM GMT
    I imagine that all the NARROW MINDED, BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS are going ballistic over the judge's decision.
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    Dec 24, 2013 8:30 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidI imagine that all the NARROW MINDED, BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS are going ballistic over the judge's decision.


    Jesus fukin Christ ..... you didn't forget after all! You had me worried the last couple of times.
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    Dec 25, 2013 5:06 AM GMT
    There still is noting to say that it won't be over turned and same sex marriages annealed. I feel for the people who may of rushed into this for a political statement, because if above said does come to pass, these people will still hurt.

    I will never make my relationship a political issue.
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    Dec 25, 2013 5:59 AM GMT
    There still is noting to say that it won't be over turned and same sex marriages annealed. I feel for the people who may of rushed into this for a political statement, because if above said does come to pass, these people will still hurt.

    I will never make my relationship a political issue.


    Actually those who marry will probably still be legally married even if the court rules a stay, so it's more than merely a 'political statement'. Generally once someone is married you can't un-marry them, and one reason for the state of Utah's panic.

    But really what's that wrong with making a political statement? Do you really think that that many straight relationships were based on better reasons?
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    Dec 25, 2013 7:12 AM GMT
    wrerick saidThere still is noting to say that it won't be over turned and same sex marriages annealed. I feel for the people who may of rushed into this for a political statement, because if above said does come to pass, these people will still hurt.

    I will never make my relationship a political issue.


    Actually those who marry will probably still be legally married even if the court rules a stay, so it's more than merely a 'political statement'. Generally once someone is married you can't un-marry them, and one reason for the state of Utah's panic.

    But really what's that wrong with making a political statement? Do you really think that that many straight relationships were based on better reasons?


    This is not about straight people. It's about GLBT people, and if marriage is done for a political statement, one does ponder: where is the love.

    But then I am contented with my 20+ year relationship, and we do not need the Governments permission to love and be love, and too do so safely. Marriage can change things, and we don';t need a change.

    Not that I don't want others to have what we do. In fact I do, and it would be a happier world.icon_razz.gif

    Oh: Tru blue Ozzie saidicon_lol.gif