Gay couple kicked out of Cactus Canyon bar in Victoria, Texas for dancing together

  • metta

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    Dec 24, 2013 3:57 AM GMT
    Gay couple kicked out of South Texas bar for dancing together


    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/12/gay-couple-kicked-out-of-south-texas-bar-for-dancing-together/





    http://www.cactuscanyonvictoria.com/

    It looks like they shut down their FB page but still have their twitter page

    https://twitter.com/cactus_canyon


    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cactus-Canyon/167606883260443

    Google page

    https://plus.google.com/115877453392207895798/about?gl=US&hl=en-US
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 3:59 AM GMT
    I guess we should all boycott Texas.
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    Dec 24, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    Texas is a state of red necks with religions as their opium. No gay people should live in a state that have ignorant zombies running it. They made their own red-neck monkey laws there.
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    Dec 24, 2013 1:46 PM GMT
    Another reason we need full civil rights. And not the piecemeal solution I've seen promoted in these forums of getting Powers of Attorney and other legal documents, with the false claim that will solve this problem and alleviate the need for gay marriage and full civil rights laws.

    I in fact do have a number of special legal documents drawn with my partner, including Health Care Surrogate, which have been godsends. But only because that's the best we can do in Florida at present, not the ideal answer.

    And all our legal documents still won't prevent us from being kicked out of places for dancing together, or getting fired from employment because we're gay, or evicted if we're renters, or denied service in a place of public business, and discriminated against in other ways depending on where we live in the US.

    So that this is a good reminder of why the LGBT civil rights battle in the US needs to continue, and not just in Texas.
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    Dec 24, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
    Selfie77 saidI guess we should all boycott Texas.


    I like Apple's approach. Creating as many jobs as possible in Texas where discrimination based on sexual orientation is not tolerated.
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 3:38 PM GMT
    xybender saidTexas is a state of red necks with religions as their opium. No gay people should live in a state that have ignorant zombies running it. They made their own red-neck monkey laws there.


    And you, a resident of San Francisco / Sacramento know this to be true how?
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    Dec 24, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
    Selfie77 said
    xybender saidTexas is a state of red necks with religions as their opium. No gay people should live in a state that have ignorant zombies running it. They made their own red-neck monkey laws there.

    And you, a resident of San Francisco / Sacramento know this to be true how?

    He may not know. But I was a citizen of Texas for 9 years, where I lived & voted, and I can confirm his assertion. And what are your own credentials on this issue?
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Selfie77 said
    xybender saidTexas is a state of red necks with religions as their opium. No gay people should live in a state that have ignorant zombies running it. They made their own red-neck monkey laws there.

    And you, a resident of San Francisco / Sacramento know this to be true how?

    He may not know. But I was a citizen of Texas for 9 years, where I lived & voted, and I can confirm his assertion. And what are your own credentials on this issue?


    How nice of you to ask. I grew up in San Antonio. Live there all my life until I reached 30. So I guess I've got more cred than you on this issue. Maybe the "xybender" guy also lived in Texas and that is what he is basing his comment on. I don't know, we will have to hope he will reply back.

    I would like to add that the person posted this topic was hoping to elicit the exact response the "xybender" and you provided. A blanket sweeping negative generalization about Texas and the citizens of Texas. He must be very happy that he succeed in doing just that.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 24, 2013 4:14 PM GMT
    Its Texas so what do you expect in that backward, breeder land of rednecks, pickup trucks, cowboy hats, and NARROW MINDED, BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS. Even the largest cities Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Fort Worth have large urban pockets of anti-gay bigotry along with racism and xenophobia. I say it is time to permanently kick Texas out of the union. They want to secede anyways and they insist on flying their state flag either at the same height or above the American flag. The US would be far better off without Texas, lets vote them outicon_mad.gif Fuck TexASS and their lone star flag, their hot humid climate, and their belligerent, anti-US natives with their obnoxious accents.icon_evil.gif
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    Dec 24, 2013 4:18 PM GMT
    Selfie77 said
    How nice of you to ask. I grew up in San Antonio.

    Did you really? That's where I lived 4 years! Let's talk about it, share our experiences. Where did you live there?
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 4:55 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Selfie77 said
    How nice of you to ask. I grew up in San Antonio.

    Did you really? That's where I lived 4 years! Let's talk about it, share our experiences. Where did you live there?


    Well it IS a small world! I have such wonderful memories attending church at Our Lady of Guadalupe each Christmas eve. Did you attend any particular church whlie you lived there?

    My dad worked in the construction trades and worked on the Southbank project and the Holiday Inn riverwalk. I remember him taking me down there and showing me how they would be building foundations and what would be going up over there. It was like I had a front row seat to the building of the city.

    I have family out in El Paso and up in Lubbock also. The drive from San Antonio to El Paso goes through very rugged country and it is very beautiful. You can also take a train through and enjoy all the scenery without having to keep you eyes on the road.

    Great memories and I can state without a doubt that the views that many gay guys have been conditioned to have about Texas and the people in Texas are not at all true. But I'm not stupid enough to believe that I can change peoples minds. If they want to cling to such prejudice views then let them. But I will always speak up in support of the real Texas and not how people living in San Francisco or New York view Texas.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 24, 2013 5:09 PM GMT
    I lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 5:49 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidI lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.


    I also have family and friends in Seattle and they also "hate people from California with a fierce passion." The Pacific Northwest is being turned into another California due to all the refugees leaving the high taxes and high cost of living in California and they are not at all happy about it. But you never read on a gay site anyone saying anything negative about the "progressives" living up there.

    Statements like "most Texans are quite prejudiced" are prejudicial and idiotic.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 24, 2013 5:55 PM GMT
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidI lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.


    I also have family and friends in Seattle and they also "hate people from California with a fierce passion." The Pacific Northwest is being turned into another California due to all the refugees leaving the high taxes and high cost of living in California and they are not at all happy about it. But you never read on a gay site anyone saying anything negative about the "progressives" living up there.

    Statements like "most Texans are quite prejudiced" are prejudicial and idiotic.
    Those statements about Texans sound idiotic and prejudicial to you but they are the absolute truth. Trust me on this one, I lived in Texas for almost ten years. I am so glad to be out of that hot, godforsaken, flat hellhole.
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 6:02 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidI lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.


    I also have family and friends in Seattle and they also "hate people from California with a fierce passion." The Pacific Northwest is being turned into another California due to all the refugees leaving the high taxes and high cost of living in California and they are not at all happy about it. But you never read on a gay site anyone saying anything negative about the "progressives" living up there.

    Statements like "most Texans are quite prejudiced" are prejudicial and idiotic.
    Those statements about Texans sound idiotic and prejudicial to you but they are the absolute truth. Trust me on this one, I lived in Texas for almost ten years. I am so glad to be out of that hot, godforsaken, flat hellhole.


    Your comments are overly broad and generalizing. As gay men we should recognize the danger of doing such things. I lived in Texas for 3x longer than you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience in Texas. It can happen anywhere. Move to NYC and you may be a victim of a gay hate crime because they have had an outbreak of gay hate crimes there this year. How many gay hate crimes happened in Texas this year?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 24, 2013 6:13 PM GMT
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidI lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.


    I also have family and friends in Seattle and they also "hate people from California with a fierce passion." The Pacific Northwest is being turned into another California due to all the refugees leaving the high taxes and high cost of living in California and they are not at all happy about it. But you never read on a gay site anyone saying anything negative about the "progressives" living up there.

    Statements like "most Texans are quite prejudiced" are prejudicial and idiotic.
    Those statements about Texans sound idiotic and prejudicial to you but they are the absolute truth. Trust me on this one, I lived in Texas for almost ten years. I am so glad to be out of that hot, godforsaken, flat hellhole.


    Your comments are overly broad and generalizing. As gay men we should recognize the danger of doing such things. I lived in Texas for 3x longer than you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience in Texas. It can happen anywhere. Move to NYC and you may be a victim of a gay hate crime because they have had an outbreak of gay hate crimes there this year. How many gay hate crimes happened in Texas this year?
    Please keep in mind that not all crimes are reported. How many unreported gay hate crimes have occurred in Texas? Also I have little use for a state that thinks that it can fly its flag at the same height or higher than the American flag and have this attitude of secede from the union. Fine, secede from the union. The US will survive just fine without Texas. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers will probably work out better than the current one along the Rio Grande. Mexico can have its renegade northern quarter back if they want it.
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    Dec 24, 2013 6:24 PM GMT
    LOL @ Southbeach pretending to be from Texas.
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 6:34 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidI lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.


    I also have family and friends in Seattle and they also "hate people from California with a fierce passion." The Pacific Northwest is being turned into another California due to all the refugees leaving the high taxes and high cost of living in California and they are not at all happy about it. But you never read on a gay site anyone saying anything negative about the "progressives" living up there.

    Statements like "most Texans are quite prejudiced" are prejudicial and idiotic.
    Those statements about Texans sound idiotic and prejudicial to you but they are the absolute truth. Trust me on this one, I lived in Texas for almost ten years. I am so glad to be out of that hot, godforsaken, flat hellhole.


    Your comments are overly broad and generalizing. As gay men we should recognize the danger of doing such things. I lived in Texas for 3x longer than you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience in Texas. It can happen anywhere. Move to NYC and you may be a victim of a gay hate crime because they have had an outbreak of gay hate crimes there this year. How many gay hate crimes happened in Texas this year?
    Please keep in mind that not all crimes are reported. How many unreported gay hate crimes have occurred in Texas? Also I have little use for a state that thinks that it can fly its flag at the same height or higher than the American flag and have this attitude of secede from the union. Fine, secede from the union. The US will survive just fine without Texas. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers will probably work out better than the current one along the Rio Grande. Mexico can have its renegade northern quarter back if they want it.


    If you're going to use the "those crimes are unreported" you need stats to back up your assertion. Just to level the playing field, if gay hate crimes are unreported in Texas, there are also unreported gay hate crimes in the bastion of progressivism, NYC.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 24, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidI lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.


    I also have family and friends in Seattle and they also "hate people from California with a fierce passion." The Pacific Northwest is being turned into another California due to all the refugees leaving the high taxes and high cost of living in California and they are not at all happy about it. But you never read on a gay site anyone saying anything negative about the "progressives" living up there.

    Statements like "most Texans are quite prejudiced" are prejudicial and idiotic.
    Those statements about Texans sound idiotic and prejudicial to you but they are the absolute truth. Trust me on this one, I lived in Texas for almost ten years. I am so glad to be out of that hot, godforsaken, flat hellhole.


    Your comments are overly broad and generalizing. As gay men we should recognize the danger of doing such things. I lived in Texas for 3x longer than you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience in Texas. It can happen anywhere. Move to NYC and you may be a victim of a gay hate crime because they have had an outbreak of gay hate crimes there this year. How many gay hate crimes happened in Texas this year?
    Please keep in mind that not all crimes are reported. How many unreported gay hate crimes have occurred in Texas? Also I have little use for a state that thinks that it can fly its flag at the same height or higher than the American flag and have this attitude of secede from the union. Fine, secede from the union. The US will survive just fine without Texas. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers will probably work out better than the current one along the Rio Grande. Mexico can have its renegade northern quarter back if they want it.


    If you're going to use the "those crimes are unreported" you need stats to back up your assertion. Just to level the playing field, if gay hate crimes are unreported in Texas, there are also unreported gay hate crimes in the bastion of progressivism, NYC.
    Unreported means that there are no stats. Many crimes occur but victims are affraid to report them to authorities. These unreported crimes occur everywhere in the US. but I am sure that they are more prevalent in conservative, bible belt states like Texas or more accurately TexASS.
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidI lived in Texas for about ten years and it is nowhere near as accepting and tolerant as some of you Texas defenders on here are claiming. Most Texans are quite prejudiced towards people from the northern states and foreign nationals as well. They hate people from California with a fierce passion. As far as I am concerned, the US would be much better off without Texas as a state in the union. Texans want to secede so that is just fine by me. Texas or more accurately TexASS is America's most unAmerican state. Hey Mexico can have their renegade province back if they want it. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers would work out just fine.


    I also have family and friends in Seattle and they also "hate people from California with a fierce passion." The Pacific Northwest is being turned into another California due to all the refugees leaving the high taxes and high cost of living in California and they are not at all happy about it. But you never read on a gay site anyone saying anything negative about the "progressives" living up there.

    Statements like "most Texans are quite prejudiced" are prejudicial and idiotic.
    Those statements about Texans sound idiotic and prejudicial to you but they are the absolute truth. Trust me on this one, I lived in Texas for almost ten years. I am so glad to be out of that hot, godforsaken, flat hellhole.


    Your comments are overly broad and generalizing. As gay men we should recognize the danger of doing such things. I lived in Texas for 3x longer than you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience in Texas. It can happen anywhere. Move to NYC and you may be a victim of a gay hate crime because they have had an outbreak of gay hate crimes there this year. How many gay hate crimes happened in Texas this year?
    Please keep in mind that not all crimes are reported. How many unreported gay hate crimes have occurred in Texas? Also I have little use for a state that thinks that it can fly its flag at the same height or higher than the American flag and have this attitude of secede from the union. Fine, secede from the union. The US will survive just fine without Texas. A new international boundary along both the Red and Sabine Rivers will probably work out better than the current one along the Rio Grande. Mexico can have its renegade northern quarter back if they want it.


    If you're going to use the "those crimes are unreported" you need stats to back up your assertion. Just to level the playing field, if gay hate crimes are unreported in Texas, there are also unreported gay hate crimes in the bastion of progressivism, NYC.
    Unreported means that there are no stats. Many crimes occur but victims are affraid to report them to authorities. These unreported crimes occur everywhere in the US. but I am sure that they are more prevalent in conservative, bible belt states like Texas or more accurately TexASS.



    Exactly, unreported crimes occur everywhere, so your attempt at saying that the gay hate crimes in Texas are unreported so therefore Texas is more dangerous to gays than NYC fails.

    Then you say "I am sure that they are more prevalent..." but you have absolutely no evidence to back that up, just a perception. It is quite easy to see how you would get such a perception, the "gay community" is very vocal against those "unelightened" people who don't live in the liberal bastions of the northeast and the west coast. But you (and they) have absolutely no FACTS to back up these perceptions.

    Again, there have been numerous hate crimes against gays in NYC this year. How many hate crimes against gays have there been in Texas this year?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 24, 2013 6:58 PM GMT
    What evidence to back it upicon_question.gif If the crime was never reported to authorities in the first place, than there are no stats, no known evidence. The only way to find out is to bump into a victim somewhere and than they might tell you what happened but chances of that happening are about the same as winning the lottery. NYC is not the only premier liberal/progressive bastion in the US so get off of it. I don't trust most of those southern states especially Texas because a lot of things happen to people and they suddenly are never heard from ever again. I am well aware that the north and the coasts are very far from perfectly safe but they are not as bad as Texas and most of the South with all their right wing militia groups and hate mongers.
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhat evidence to back it upicon_question.gif If the crime was never reported to authorities in the first place, than there are no stats, no known evidence. The only way to find out is to bump into a victim somewhere and than they might tell you what happened but chances of that happening are about the same as winning the lottery. NYC is not the only premier liberal/progressive bastion in the US so get off of it. I don't trust most of those southern states especially Texas because a lot of things happen to people and they suddenly are never heard from ever again. I am well aware that the north and the coasts are very far from perfectly safe but they are not as bad as Texas and most of the South with all their right wing militia groups and hate mongers.


    Let's try and stay with the facts:

    1) There have been an alarming number of hate crimes against gays in NYC in 2013.

    2) There have been far less hate crimes against gays in Texas in 2013.

    3) Both NYC and Texas (and everywhere else) have crimes that are not reported.

    4) It is impossible to know how many crimes are unreported.

    Based on the FACTS, NYC has had far more hate crimes against gays than Texas, or any other southern state.

    You are free to "believe" and "think" the opposite is true, but you would be wrong.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 24, 2013 7:14 PM GMT
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidWhat evidence to back it upicon_question.gif If the crime was never reported to authorities in the first place, than there are no stats, no known evidence. The only way to find out is to bump into a victim somewhere and than they might tell you what happened but chances of that happening are about the same as winning the lottery. NYC is not the only premier liberal/progressive bastion in the US so get off of it. I don't trust most of those southern states especially Texas because a lot of things happen to people and they suddenly are never heard from ever again. I am well aware that the north and the coasts are very far from perfectly safe but they are not as bad as Texas and most of the South with all their right wing militia groups and hate mongers.


    Let's try and stay with the facts:

    1) There have been an alarming number of hate crimes against gays in NYC in 2013.

    2) There have been far less hate crimes against gays in Texas in 2013.

    3) Both NYC and Texas (and everywhere else) have crimes that are not reported.

    4) It is impossible to know how many crimes are unreported.

    Based on the FACTS, NYC has had far more hate crimes against gays than Texas, or any other southern state.

    You are free to "believe" and "think" the opposite is true, but you would be wrong.
    That doesn't necessarily make Texas or any other southern state more "gay friendly". In fact those states are the total opposite. While there are fewer gay hate crimes throughout the South, that still doesn't change the true fact that there is still a simmering hostility towards gays in Texas and throughout the South as evidenced by the total abscence of laws protecting gays from discrimination in employment and housing. Gay marriage is still banned throughout the South and I would not be one bit surprised if Texas along with the western state of Idaho are the last states to permit gay marriage.
  • Selfie77

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    Dec 24, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Selfie77 said
    roadbikeRob saidWhat evidence to back it upicon_question.gif If the crime was never reported to authorities in the first place, than there are no stats, no known evidence. The only way to find out is to bump into a victim somewhere and than they might tell you what happened but chances of that happening are about the same as winning the lottery. NYC is not the only premier liberal/progressive bastion in the US so get off of it. I don't trust most of those southern states especially Texas because a lot of things happen to people and they suddenly are never heard from ever again. I am well aware that the north and the coasts are very far from perfectly safe but they are not as bad as Texas and most of the South with all their right wing militia groups and hate mongers.


    Let's try and stay with the facts:

    1) There have been an alarming number of hate crimes against gays in NYC in 2013.

    2) There have been far less hate crimes against gays in Texas in 2013.

    3) Both NYC and Texas (and everywhere else) have crimes that are not reported.

    4) It is impossible to know how many crimes are unreported.

    Based on the FACTS, NYC has had far more hate crimes against gays than Texas, or any other southern state.

    You are free to "believe" and "think" the opposite is true, but you would be wrong.
    That doesn't necessarily make Texas or any other southern state more "gay friendly". In fact those states are the total opposite. While there are fewer gay hate crimes throughout the South, that still doesn't change the true fact that there is still a simmering hostility towards gays in Texas and throughout the South as evidenced by the total abscence of laws protecting gays from discrimination in employment and housing. Gay marriage is still banned throughout the South and I would not be one bit surprised if Texas along with the western state of Idaho are the last states to permit gay marriage.


    There are two schools of thoughts with regards to anti-discrimination laws in general. One is that for each group, one needs a law specifically banning discrimination for that group. The other school of thought is that these groups are already protected by existing laws.

    Example: There are no "anti-straight discrimination" laws as the existing anti-discrimination laws protect straights, gays, whites, blacks, latinos and every other group.

    It's just a different way of thinking about what is the criteria necessary for a new law to be enacted.

    And then there's the reality - a law won't prevent discrimination, bullying, etc.
  • Being

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    Dec 26, 2013 1:35 AM GMT
    ART_DECO saidAnother reason we need full civil rights. And not the piecemeal solution I've seen promoted in these forums of getting Powers of Attorney and other legal documents, with the false claim that will solve this problem and alleviate the need for gay marriage and full civil rights laws.

    I in fact do have a number of special legal documents drawn with my partner, including Health Care Surrogate, which have been godsends. But only because that's the best we can do in Florida at present, not the ideal answer.

    And all our legal documents still won't prevent us from being kicked out of places for dancing together, or getting fired from employment because we're gay, or evicted if we're renters, or denied service in a place of public business, and discriminated against in other ways depending on where we live in the US.

    So that this is a good reminder of why the LGBT civil rights battle in the US needs to continue, and not just in Texas.



    YOu're idoit. Why would you want to go to a place with an anti-gay atmosphere? That makes no sense at all.