San Francisco and crystal meth.

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    Dec 26, 2013 2:28 AM GMT
    Hello RJ,

    So I'm over here at Cali for the holidays, got family over here, and I'm loving the visit, especially SF.

    Now, I'm not trying to base my generalization off of internet dating sites/hookup sites or apps. But from what I noticed, many gay guys in SF/bay area seem to do drugs 'occasionally or socially'... a lot more than my hometown, Chicago.

    I was actually talking to this one guy: older, handsome and good looking. We were chatting for a short while, then he later said "You're pretty hot yourself, I like to enjoy the occasional party n play, but it looks like you frown upon that activity..."

    Don't know how I should feel about that, assume hes not interested anymore...anyways, I looked around and a lot of other people i noticed seem to be in the same boat, in terms of 'partying'.

    I watched a documentary about SF being a meth capital for gay men. Now since many of you are older than 22, can you older folks enlightening me about SF? Or for those who live in SF, can you elaborate on what you've seen?

    Its sort of a mood killer for me, when I see a really good-looking guy and later find out he smokes tina. I don't have friends who currently smoke, so this whole scene is a little new to me.
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    Dec 26, 2013 2:31 AM GMT
    Meth is the best diet plan.

    Next question. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 26, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    Meth is a problem in every community/culture, not just gay.
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    Dec 26, 2013 2:41 AM GMT
    StellarPecs said
    jmusmc85 saidMeth is the best diet plan.

    Next question. icon_biggrin.gif


    Huh?


    So naive you people on here....icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 26, 2013 2:50 AM GMT
    I put "not 420 friendly, no alcoholics, no pill heads, and no druggies" on my Grindr profile and it was moderated. #dafuq
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    Dec 26, 2013 3:17 AM GMT
    Avsigkommen saidI put "not 420 friendly, no alcoholics, no pill heads, and no druggies" on my Grindr profile and it was moderated. #dafuq

    drugs r good, mmkay.
  • Fable

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    Dec 26, 2013 3:55 AM GMT
    ugh tina no no no no
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    Dec 26, 2013 6:43 AM GMT
    Not sure where you're hanging in SF but I live here and the places I hang, it's not an issue. Sure there's some, after all it's a big city. As for being the Meth capitol for gays, I doubt that but it is the Gay Mecca after all. I'd say you've picked the wrong pond to fish in, find a new pond that isn't catering to a group you don't have an interest in.
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    Dec 26, 2013 6:55 AM GMT
    nothing worse than a power bottom tweaker
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    Dec 26, 2013 7:12 AM GMT
    San Francisco intimidates me. People seem to love themselves too much (for no good reason). I kind of believe that South Park episode.
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    Dec 26, 2013 7:21 AM GMT
    schwinn147 said
    I watched a documentary about SF being a meth capital for gay men. Now since many of you are older than 22, can you older folks enlightening me about SF? Or for those who live in SF, can you elaborate on what you've seen?

    There is a lot of meth use in SF, but thankfully, it has been
    it has been on the decline. And it's not us old crowd who use it much - it's generally a younger guy's drug. They experiment more? And they get hooked, cause it's more addictive than cocaine or heroin. You'll find a lot of ads on CL for guys looking to "party n play."
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    Dec 26, 2013 7:22 AM GMT
    Never heard to it referred to as 'tina' , but I thought it was more of a problem, and a big problem, out in small towns and redneck land.
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    Dec 26, 2013 7:28 AM GMT
    I don't live in the San Francisco area, however, I was talking to one of my straight friends that lives in Santa Rosa about affordable water front property in Northern California and she told me to stay away from rural areas because there is a lot of meth use. I asked her about places like Clear Lake and she actually recommended that I look more in areas with more gay people, like Guerneville, because they don't have as much of a meth problem.
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    Dec 26, 2013 7:44 AM GMT
    metta8 saidI don't live in the San Francisco area, however, I was talking to one of my straight friends that lives in Santa Rosa about affordable water front property in Northern California and she told me to stay away from rural areas because there is a lot of meth use. I asked her about places like Clear Lake and she actually recommended that I look more in areas with more gay people, like Guerneville, because they don't have as much of a meth problem.


    I've heard that it's a huge problem out in places like Idaho, Montana .... I mean really redneck places.

    Too bad that will all that natural beauty around that one would have to rely on meth to feel good.
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    Dec 26, 2013 9:45 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidNever heard to it referred to as 'tina'


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    Dec 26, 2013 12:25 PM GMT
    Oh who hasn't spent a few weeks smoking meth and banging strangers bareback? It all sounds so...magical.
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    Dec 26, 2013 6:06 PM GMT
    Dunno, I seem to encounter it less now than I did a few years ago, in the northwest. That might be just because I turned 50 and hence became "gay invisible," but I don't see people mentioning it in their on-line profiles much any more.
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    Dec 27, 2013 12:19 AM GMT
    As a general rule of thumb: Stay away from drug users no matter in what city they reside.
  • Chainers

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    Dec 27, 2013 12:43 AM GMT
    Yes it is a huge issue in gay SF. If you want a gay community to bond with, SF will help you if you do meth, are in rehab, or have HIV. Otherwise it isnt the most accepting place.

    Overall, part of the meth problem in SF is that people living in SF don't want to admit it is a problem, but a lot of people do it and are very open about doing it (as in you will know as soon as you meet them).

    Be safe, be smart, enjoy.
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    Dec 27, 2013 1:05 AM GMT
    Gross
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    Dec 27, 2013 1:17 AM GMT
    Yes, there is a sub-culture in SF that does meth. It's a pretty big sub-culture actually. But it's not everyone. There are people with better lives here in SF. It helps if you don't have a thing for 'bad boys'.

    If a guy says that he parties occasionally, that's usually a big old lie and he is hiding his drug use from someone he doesn't know well.

    I try to avoid those that PNP, as the sex is usually really bad (though in their high minds they think its better than it is), and there is usually a lot more ugliness going on in their brains and lives that I want nothing to do with. Plus there are a lot of guys that NEED meth to make sex enjoyable, and those guys are really damaged goods IMHO. Besides meth use weakens the immune system, can destroy undetectable status of HIV+ people, weakens the will and makes everybody involved with it whether you are doing it yourself more susceptible to STDs and HIV.

    There is one guy that keeps hitting me up. And he is HOT, as in cover of Men's Fitness Magazine hot. He keeps proposing that he 'treat and pamper' me to an evening of partying. He says, oh I never party, but there's something about you that really makes me want to do xxx with you while I'm high. Every few months he hits me up, in fact he hit me up this week. I chat with him and have tried to get him to meet without the 'pampering', but when it comes down to it, that's what he wants. Every time I kick myself in the ass for turning him down because he really is freaking hot! Damn me and my standards.
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    Dec 27, 2013 1:22 AM GMT
    Chainers saidYes it is a huge issue in gay SF. If you want a gay community to bond with, SF will help you if you do meth, are in rehab, or have HIV. Otherwise it isnt the most accepting place.

    Overall, part of the meth problem in SF is that people living in SF don't want to admit it is a problem, but a lot of people do it and are very open about doing it (as in you will know as soon as you meet them).

    Be safe, be smart, enjoy.

    Where are you getting this information? I don't believe it's a problem in SF and I DO live here. I've seen it yes, but we're not some small town in North Carolina either! There are a lot of guys that don't do meth, are not in rehab and are HIV negative, quit creating rumors that are not factual unless you're going to post your references with it.
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    Dec 27, 2013 1:28 AM GMT
    Drug use is frequently higher in liberal states.
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    Dec 27, 2013 1:31 AM GMT
    tuckers_kahuna said...If a guy says that he parties occasionally, that's usually a big old lie...


    That's just what happened to a dear friend of mine back when this stuff first hit the scene. I thought he was just playing with it every so often. At that time it wasn't known how addictive it is. He spiraled down to death. I never tried it. But I hate that shit. And of course I'm left with some guilt of not having intervened, even though I didn't know. Life can be brutal sometimes.
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    Dec 27, 2013 1:42 AM GMT
    eb925guy said
    Chainers saidYes it is a huge issue in gay SF. If you want a gay community to bond with, SF will help you if you do meth, are in rehab, or have HIV. Otherwise it isnt the most accepting place.

    Overall, part of the meth problem in SF is that people living in SF don't want to admit it is a problem, but a lot of people do it and are very open about doing it (as in you will know as soon as you meet them).

    Be safe, be smart, enjoy.

    Where are you getting this information? I don't believe it's a problem in SF and I DO live here. I've seen it yes, but we're not some small town in North Carolina either! There are a lot of guys that don't do meth, are not in rehab and are HIV negative, quit creating rumors that are not factual unless you're going to post your references with it.


    3rd generation Bay Area-er, born and raised in Walnut Creek, undergrad at USF, 4 years after undergrad in SF including the Castro. Considering your name contains EB (east bay) and CCC's area code, I highly doubt that you have spent a whole lot of time in the city.

    When I told my relatives about my experience in SF with crystal meth, their response was "still?"

    So yea, it is a problem. Thank you for sticking your head in the sand and ignoring it. This is why the problem grows so much.