Chicago’s Boystown voted world’s best gay neighborhood

  • metta

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    Jan 03, 2014 7:50 PM GMT

    Chicago’s Boystown voted world’s best gay neighborhood

    Chicago’s iconic Boystown gay precinct has been voted the world best gay neighborhood – beating out gay districts in other cities in the US and Spain
  • metta

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    Jan 03, 2014 7:55 PM GMT
    In California, West Hollywood and San Francisco have become so expensive to live.

    Laguna Beach, Belmont Shores (Long Beach), Hillcrest (San Diego) are not inexpensive either.

    A decent place in any of these locations is probably going to be over a million dollars.

    I <3 this wine rack:

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    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1232-Sunset-Plaza-Dr_Los-Angeles_CA_90069_M25844-82580?row=1
  • FRE0

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    Jan 03, 2014 8:37 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI'm surprised. I used to live there. It's becoming overrun with breeder yuppies who can afford the high rents and mortgages. Decades ago Lakeview was somewhat of a ghetto. Well, you know the rest. Gays started moving in and over time made the area beautiful and safe to live in. Then the upper income breeders started moving in and property values quickly went up.

    Other than that, the winters are what I don't miss at all. Currently it's fourteen degrees in Chicago with about four or more inches of snow. Oh, and with the windshield it feels like -3!! It's currently forty-five degrees in the Seattle area. Much more tolerable for me. icon_smile.gif


    What does the windshield have to do with how cold it feels?
  • FRE0

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    Jan 03, 2014 8:49 PM GMT
    metta8 saidIn California, West Hollywood and San Francisco have become so expensive to live.

    Laguna Beach, Belmont Shores (Long Beach), Hillcrest (San Diego) are not inexpensive either.

    A decent place in any of these locations is probably going to be over a million dollars.

    I <3 this wine rack:

    l5e004f44-m13m.jpg

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1232-Sunset-Plaza-Dr_Los-Angeles_CA_90069_M25844-82580?row=1


    I lived in San Diego from 1978 to 1994. After living in a condominium in University City for four years, I looked for a house elsewhere, including Hillcrest. There were no houses for sale in Hillcrest, although there were plenty of apartments there, so I bought a house in North Park. I had gay neighbors. When I left San Diego in 1994, a lesbian couple bought my house and still lives there. For someone who wants to live in a gay neighborhood in San Diego, probably North Park would be the best area.

    In any area of San Diego, the prices of houses are way above the national average, perhaps twice as high, which is why people tend to live in small houses. However, San Diego has the nicest weather in the entire continental U.S. and if one has a nice back yard, it can be treated as a living area for most of the year. I rode back there on my motorcycle in early October 2013. Since I lived there, the traffic has become much worse, but if one can live in an area that makes it possible to avoid the traffic, it isn't a problem. I'm considering moving back in a year or two because of the wonderful weather but because I'm retired, I would not often have to deal with the traffic.

    I've been in the Boystown area of Chicago and wasn't very impressed with it.

    Another gay area to consider is the Oxford Street area in Sydney, AU.; I've been in that area several times. However, housing is very expensive there, especially with the increased strength of the Australian dollar.
  • FRE0

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    Jan 03, 2014 8:51 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    FRE0 said

    What does the windshield have to do with how cold it feels?


    Whoops, I should have said wind 'chill' factor. Sorry about that.


    I figured that; I was just being funny. Malapropisms are sometimes amusing.
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    Jan 03, 2014 9:28 PM GMT
    I doubt that San Diego's climate is better than ours here in South Florida.
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    Jan 03, 2014 9:35 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Aristoshark saidI doubt that San Diego's climate is better than ours here in South Florida.


    Actually, if I'm not mistaken San Diego's weather is roughly in the middle 70's all your long with relatively little humidity. I really love the winters in South Florida, it's very similar to the weather in San Diego. But come summer, that wretched humidity is like trying to breathe underwater. I've been in Florida during August and it was really hard to tolerate.

    Your body acclimatizes though. Now I find the summers "normal" and the winters (believe it or not) a little chilly. Like right now it's in the mid-sixties and I'm freezing when I go outside. Yeah, I've turned into a pussy. I admit it.
  • MarvelBoy23

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    Jan 03, 2014 9:49 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI'm surprised. I used to live there. It's becoming overrun with breeder yuppies who can afford the high rents and mortgages. Decades ago Lakeview was somewhat of a ghetto. Well, you know the rest. Gays started moving in and over time made the area beautiful and safe to live in. Then the upper income breeders started moving in and property values quickly went up. This forced a lot of gay men to move northward (Buena Park, Andersonville, Edgewater and even Rogers Park) and some have moved westward.

    Other than that, the winters are what I don't miss at all. Currently it's fourteen degrees in Chicago with about four or more inches of snow. Oh, and with the wind chill factor, it feels like -3. Three degrees below zero!! NO THANK YOU!!

    It's currently forty-five degrees in the Seattle area. Much more tolerable for me. icon_smile.gif



    actually it's about 5 degrees and we have at LEAST 12 inches from the last storm, but upwards of 18!

    I love the snow, I don't mind the cold but damn I hate this state.... Envious, would love to move to the San Juans.... Or Santa Fe. Someday....
  • MarvelBoy23

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    Jan 03, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said^
    Is that five degrees below or above zero? My 1Weather app can be a couple degrees off, I've noticed. And twelve inches of snow!? How wretched! Sorry, bud.icon_sad.gif



    Right now it's 5 above. Mondays temps high is -9. That's not a typo...
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    Jan 03, 2014 9:55 PM GMT
    I always wanted to visit Chicago, Boystown! Hooked up with a guy back in 2007 from Wisconsin/Chicago! He was pretty cool/nice. San Francisco Mission district is 2nd? Lol not the Castro? Like there's gay guys living in the Mission area? WeHo and SF rent/mortgage prices are outrageous and recently over the years, WeHo is just becoming more and more **White! It's kinda segregated, most of my Latino gay friends hang out in Silverlake/Glendale because they say it's sorta unfriendly there.
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    Jan 03, 2014 10:21 PM GMT
    You're lucky you even HAVE a gay area.

    We don't here in Edmonton, AB. The metro area has 1.1 million people, yet we still can't manage to accumulate our gays in an area. Everyone who's queer in this city is spread out to an outrageous degree.

    Oh, and the weather is beyond bad. Summers are great, but they're only from May to September. Snow starts in late October and goes until at least mid April most years.
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    Jan 03, 2014 10:35 PM GMT
    SeismicMuscle saidYou're lucky you even HAVE a gay area.

    We don't here in Edmonton, AB. The metro area has 1.1 million people, yet we still can't manage to accumulate our gays in an area. Everyone who's queer in this city is spread out to an outrageous degree.

    Oh, and the weather is beyond bad. Summers are great, but they're only from May to September. Snow starts in late October and goes until at least mid April most years.


    I haven't been to Edmonton, but I have been to Calgary, so have seen Albertan weather reports, and noted that it's having open roads that makes the headlines not having closed ones.
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    Jan 03, 2014 10:55 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said

    That's actually a positive sign, that gays in your area have assimilated into the general population and aren't cloistered in their own little ghetto.


    I think it's just a byproduct of the city layout. And the fact public transit sucks here.
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    Jan 03, 2014 11:12 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Aristoshark saidI doubt that San Diego's climate is better than ours here in South Florida.


    Actually, if I'm not mistaken San Diego's weather is roughly in the middle 70's all your long with relatively little humidity. I really love the winters in South Florida, it's very similar to the weather in San Diego. But come summer, that wretched humidity is like trying to breathe underwater. The high humidity coupled with temps in the high eighties to high high nineties is far from pleasant. I've been to Florida during August and it was really hard to tolerate. You always feel wet when outside walking around.


    There is more weather variability in San Diego than many people realize.

    In the winter, the normal high is in the middle to low 60s and it can drop into the 40s at night. In the summer, the normal high is in the high 70s or low 80s with the normal low in the middle to low 60s. However, it varies considerably according to location. The farther inland you go, the higher the highs are. The relative humidity is often somewhat above 60% and sometimes there is a problem with mildew. That's true even though the annual rainfall is quite low. Close to the ocean, it is not unusual to have fog in the early morning; that sometimes even closes the airport. Usually it burns off by about 10:00 AM.

    Sometimes the temperature can reach the high 80s for a few days when the wind blows the heat in from the desert.

    Most people in San Diego don't have air conditioning since it isn't often needed. Heating systems are often primitive. Wall furnaces that are capable of heating only one room are common. Older houses often have a floor furnace. Condonimia often have electric ceiling heat which costs a fortune to operate and is no longer legal.

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    Jan 03, 2014 11:57 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Aristoshark saidI doubt that San Diego's climate is better than ours here in South Florida.


    Actually, if I'm not mistaken San Diego's weather is roughly in the middle 70's all your long with relatively little humidity. I really love the winters in South Florida, it's very similar to the weather in San Diego. But come summer, that wretched humidity is like trying to breathe underwater. I've been in Florida during August and it was really hard to tolerate.

    Your body acclimatizes though. Now I find the summers "normal" and the winters (believe it or not) a little chilly. Like right now it's in the mid-sixties and I'm freezing when I go outside. Yeah, I've turned into a pussy. I admit it.


    Your body acclimatizes? I lived on the East Coast for my first 30 years and never liked it. Then I lived in LA for 20 years with no humidity, no allergies, no need for air conditioning or heat. Now that I'm back East--I STILL have yet to "acclimatize." When will that happen? It's been 6 years.
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    Jan 03, 2014 11:59 PM GMT
    SeismicMuscle saidYou're lucky you even HAVE a gay area.

    We don't here in Edmonton, AB. The metro area has 1.1 million people, yet we still can't manage to accumulate our gays in an area. Everyone who's queer in this city is spread out to an outrageous degree.

    Oh, and the weather is beyond bad. Summers are great, but they're only from May to September. Snow starts in late October and goes until at least mid April most years.

    I hear ya on the gay hood. I looked several times LOL. and yes the winters are awful. The summers aren't much better. Its always extreme temps. Come visit me on the island icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 04, 2014 12:12 AM GMT
    what is not to like about, just look at the homo happiness map icon_razz.gif
    http://boystownbars.com/

    except Chi town winters are brutal, in my younger days I could handle it and did many times (Man Hole I think :lolicon_smile.gif,
    they don't call people 'snowbirds' for nothing, but Halsted Days is the best party of the year.
    I will spend my next 50 years near Palm Springs CA
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    Jan 04, 2014 12:19 AM GMT
    garyinla said
    Aristoshark said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Aristoshark saidI doubt that San Diego's climate is better than ours here in South Florida.


    Actually, if I'm not mistaken San Diego's weather is roughly in the middle 70's all your long with relatively little humidity. I really love the winters in South Florida, it's very similar to the weather in San Diego. But come summer, that wretched humidity is like trying to breathe underwater. I've been in Florida during August and it was really hard to tolerate.

    Your body acclimatizes though. Now I find the summers "normal" and the winters (believe it or not) a little chilly. Like right now it's in the mid-sixties and I'm freezing when I go outside. Yeah, I've turned into a pussy. I admit it.


    Your body acclimatizes? I lived on the East Coast for my first 30 years and never liked it. Then I lived in LA for 20 years with no humidity, no allergies, no need for air conditioning or heat. Now that I'm back East--I STILL have yet to "acclimatize." When will that happen? It's been 6 years.


    I lived in Minneapolis for 21 years and never "acclimatized." Obviously it takes longer than that.
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Jan 04, 2014 12:43 AM GMT
    scruffLA saidwhat is not to like about, just look at the homo happiness map icon_razz.gif
    http://boystownbars.com/

    except Chi town winters are brutal, in my younger days I could handle it and did many times (Man Hole I think :lolicon_smile.gif,
    they don't call people 'snowbirds' for nothing, but Halsted Days is the best party of the year.
    I will spend my next 50 years near Palm Springs CA


    I agree, I already have a place in palm springs. It just keeps getting better and better in the desert.
    I have a place in west hollywood right on the strip and a place in PS and it's getting unlivable in weho.
  • ChicagoSteve

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    Jan 04, 2014 1:08 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI'm surprised. I used to live there. It's becoming overrun with breeder yuppies who can afford the high rents and mortgages. Decades ago Lakeview was somewhat of a ghetto. Well, you know the rest. Gays started moving in and over time made the area beautiful and safe to live in. Then the upper income breeders started moving in and property values quickly went up. This forced a lot of gay men to move northward (Buena Park, Andersonville, Edgewater and even Rogers Park) and some have moved westward.

    Other than that, the winters are what I don't miss at all. Currently it's fourteen degrees in Chicago with about four or more inches of snow. Oh, and with the wind chill factor, it feels like -3. Three degrees below zero!! NO THANK YOU!!

    It's currently forty-five degrees in the Seattle area. Much more tolerable for me. icon_smile.gif


    I can confirm everything you said, about the weather and Chicago's Boystown. The gay guys fixed it up and made it nice over the years and the yuppie straights started moving in. It still has the string of gay bars up and down Halsted Street but the surrounding blocks are very different.
    Regarding the weather, I am hoping this is the last winter I'm living here, it's been miserable. The forecasted HIGH temperature for Chicago on Monday is 8 degrees below zero. I am so done!
  • ohioguy12

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    Jan 04, 2014 1:37 AM GMT
    I felt Barcelona's gay district was overrated. I think you need to add Montreal's Le Village needed to be included near the top of the list.
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    Jan 04, 2014 4:53 AM GMT
    As for affluent heteros moving into the gayborhood, I like the sort of straights who are comfortable with gays.
    I've also found that people with actual money improve your resale values even more than the struggling yet stylish.

  • Cutlass

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    Jan 04, 2014 11:01 AM GMT
    I haven't been to Chicago for over 20 years, so I don't know what it's like now. I thought I recalled that Halsted St. was not a very safe place to be. Obviously it's changed since I was last there. I think the part I'm thinking about was the area closest to downtown. What part of Halsted St. are we talking about? Where on Halsted St. is Boystown?
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    Jan 04, 2014 2:41 PM GMT
    My career choice forces me to live near work (grew up in a small town, so a 1+ hour commute is basically out).

    My impression of Hillcrest and Northpark(san diego) is parking is impossible and distant from public transportation(light rail). Just as well since SD gays won't talk to you unless you're flashy rich or a porn actor.

    Lived in Seattle/Everett WA for about two years. The Capital Hill area is great to visit. But, gay establishments make no attempt at policing their privately-owned parking lot. Don't do this very often: spend $12 to park, then stand around for five hours...in a bar.

    Currently live about an hour and a half away from WeHo in the LA area. I'm going to die single. But, I won't freeze to death. (still remember the noises my ford truck made when Chicago/Naperville temp hits 20 below.)
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 04, 2014 3:48 PM GMT
    Chicago is one of the greatest cities in the world so why shoudn't it have the worlds best gayborhood. Enough of whining about the weather, Chicago like the rest of the Great Lakes Region has a beautiful four season climate. Yes it can get too cold during the winter especially with the wind blowing fiercely but I will gladly take the winter in either Chicago, Cleveland, or Buffalo anyday over a humid, torrid summer in Austin, TX.