Cold weather and Diesel cars...

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    Jan 05, 2014 8:40 PM GMT
    Ohio is supposed to be getting the coldest air we have seen in like 20 years.....temps dropping to between -10 and -20 Fahrenheit. I am not sure how or even if I can prep my diesel Jetta for these temperatures....I MUST be able to go to work in the morning.
    No, I don't have a garage available...
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    Jan 05, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
    Get an engine block heater.
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    Jan 05, 2014 8:52 PM GMT
    Electric block heater? Suburbasaurus and the tractors starts right up at zero degrees when you keep them warm all night. (They replace one of the casting plugs in the block - gotta drain all the coolant out to install) If you don't have one installed, there are skinny ones available that fit down the dip-stick tube. Not as effective.

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    Jan 06, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidElectric block heater? Suburbasaurus and the tractors starts right up at zero degrees when you keep them warm all night. (They replace one of the casting plugs in the block - gotta drain all the coolant out to install) If you don't have one installed, there are skinny ones available that fit down the dip-stick tube. Not as effective.

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    True, not as effective, but dipstick heater good enough for Columbus.

    We got screwed out of the snow and we'll probably get screwed out of some of the cold too.
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    Jan 06, 2014 12:48 AM GMT
    can you google cold start procedures? do automotive diesel engines have glow plugs like marine diesels? she's going to be rough, really rough, upon starting. i strongly recommend that you let her idle for a bit to let the engine temp stabilize and the crank case oil to coat everything properly. that oil is going to be mighty thick at first so no blasting off until she has come up to temp.
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    Jan 06, 2014 1:27 AM GMT
    HEBREWMAN saidcan you google cold start procedures? do automotive diesel engines have glow plugs like marine diesels? she's going to be rough, really rough, upon starting. i strongly recommend that you let her idle for a bit to let the engine temp stabilize and the crank case oil to coat everything properly. that oil is going to be mighty thick at first so no blasting off until she has come up to temp.


    That's why a dipshit heater does OK in a diesel. However, they've backed on the forecast here to only -10 to -11 degrees so not as 'good' as I thought it would be and no drifting snow. Indianapolis got everything and we're not going to get shit.
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    Jan 06, 2014 5:46 AM GMT
    Thanks for the many suggestions....I went in search of the dipstick heaters and neither Wally world, Target nor Meijer carry them.....will need to try Auto-zone or similar....and yes, the car has glow plugs....When I bought the car originally....they had to ship it from Minnesota....and they wanted to get it out of there as I found out later, because the factory didn't install the block heater....Central Ohio is not normally as cold as Minnesota....so I was ok with that missing option...icon_rolleyes.gificon_redface.gif
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    Jan 06, 2014 5:58 AM GMT
    Sporty_G saidThanks for the many suggestions....I went in search of the dipstick heaters and neither Wally world, Target nor Meijer carry them.....will need to try Auto-zone or similar....and yes, the car has glow plugs....When I bought the car originally....they had to ship it from Minnesota....and they wanted to get it out of there as I found out later, because the factory didn't install the block heater....Central Ohio is not normally as cold as Minnesota....so I was ok with that missing option...icon_rolleyes.gificon_redface.gif


    Try the NAPA over by your gym. Well, a few blocks south and left on 161

    2665 W Dublin Granville Rd, Columbus, OH

    That's the Central Ohio warehouse and they may have it.
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    Jan 06, 2014 6:13 AM GMT
    Thanks...NAPA it is.....icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 06, 2014 6:16 AM GMT
    Sporty_G saidThanks...NAPA it is.....icon_cool.gif


    Obviously, check first, but if a local NAPA store needs a part, this is where they get it. You need it for tomorrow night so no time to wait a day for your store to order and get it.


    (614) 766-1142

    napaonline.com
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    Jan 06, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
    There are also heaters that magnetically stick to the bottom of the oil pan.
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    Jan 06, 2014 7:08 PM GMT
    paradox saidThere are also heaters that magnetically stick to the bottom of the oil pan.


    Presuming you have a steel oil pan. Works much less well on finned aluminum.
  • NifeK

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    Jan 06, 2014 8:56 PM GMT
    Shouldn't be trouble starting it up as long as the glow plugs are functional and you allow them to warm up, in the VW forums which I am part of most people have no trouble starting in freezing temps as long as it's above -22F (30C)- The starting can be rough though. Having Winter grade diesel and correct oil grade viscosity helps.
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    Jan 06, 2014 9:12 PM GMT
    I remember one of the times that I drove out to the Rose Bowl, I came back across I-80 and spent the night in Rawlins, WY in 1973 or 74 on a Jan 3rd or 4th. Early the next morning it was something like -35f (not wind chill) and I got the car started without a block heater. I'm sure I was getting close to the limit of temps that it would start in, but I lived through it.

    The temps we're going to have tonight shouldn't be much of a problem. We're still at -7f now and 4:15pm. It's the high winds that are the bitch.
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    Jan 07, 2014 8:44 PM GMT
    NifeK saidShouldn't be trouble starting it up as long as the glow plugs are functional and you allow them to warm up, in the VW forums which I am part of most people have no trouble starting in freezing temps as long as it's above -22F (30C)- The starting can be rough though. Having Winter grade diesel and correct oil grade viscosity helps.


    This! As long as you have been driving and fueling it regularly, it should be fine. At least in Canada, winter diesel has an additive to help keep it from gelling.
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    Jan 07, 2014 8:46 PM GMT
    When it's so cold, it's better not to start the engine just for a few minutes, so if you're only driving it for like 5 minutes, give it a few minutes before driving and maybe even when you arrive before you shut off the engine.
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    Jan 08, 2014 12:44 PM GMT
    Thanks!
    The diesel started fine....lowest I saw was -12F....ran a little rough until it warmed up. The engine temp took forever to warm up and if I wasn't on the highway doing 60 mph....the engine temp was cool and the heater was blowing warm but not the usual HOT air...THANK GOD for seat warmers!icon_cool.gif