Supplement advice needed

  • ajlclimber

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    Jan 06, 2014 4:02 PM GMT
    I'm looking for someone to help me with choosing the right supplements. I usually just grab the GNC Ripped Vita-pack, but a couple of my friends say its a waste of money to get GNC brands.. however noone will show me a better program or set. I'm still working on lean muscle. Any help would be appretiated.
  • MikeW

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    Jan 06, 2014 8:12 PM GMT
    This question is difficult to reply to. So much controversy, so many differing opinions. I have my own stack of stuff but I've done a lot of research and gear it specifically to my old man needs.

    I looked at the Vita-pack label. Looks like there are a lot of vitamins but you probably could get those from almost any good multi-vitamin supplement at a lower price.

    Beyond that there is a small amount (by my standards) of BCAAs; Creatine; Green Tea extract + L-Glutamine, L-Taurine, beta-ALanine, L-Carnitine; MSM, Collagen, HA; ALA, etc.

    I think the general view on RJ is that it is best to get as much of one's needs met by diet as possible. That usually translates to eating clean, mostly organic, meats, fruits and veggies; supplementing with protein and vitamins as necessary. I think this is a good general rule for healthy, young men as diet is 80% of the goal (lean mass).

    Personally I believe that Creatine monohydrate + BCAAs (both in sufficient quantities) is probably a good idea for anyone working out hard. Beyond that you may get a lot of opinions but not much science.

    I would suggest looking at some of the supplement recommendations for various routines on bodybuilding.com. For example, take a look at Jim Stoppani's 12 Week Shortcut to Size, Supplement Guide. There is quite a bit of information there.

    Also, once you find sups you prefer and work for you, I recommend looking into bulk purchasing. It is usually much cheaper than any of the pre-packaged stuff. I use purebulk.com but I'm sure there are others.

    Good luck.
  • ncsudude

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    Jan 08, 2014 4:17 AM GMT
    check out examine.com look for lean mass check out this link
    http://examine.com/topics/Lean+Mass/ you can see the supplement list with a "A" grade like Creatine and Whey. A popular T-booster, Tribulus terrestris, doesn't really help do anything expect make ur wallet smaller.
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    Jan 08, 2014 4:29 AM GMT
    Really man, supplements are just that... supplements. If you have the proper diet you don't need any supplements and it will actually be cheaper.

    But, if you do want to use supps, the GNC AMP series is pretty good for a protein source. It's high in essential amino acids which help break down protein into a usable source for muscle repair. More carbs are good for bulking. Creatine is good for max rep lifts but when you stop taking it your results/gains will slowly go with it. Get some multi-vitamins.

    Vegetables and fruits do wonders. You'll have loads of energy and better recovery time.
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    Jan 08, 2014 8:33 AM GMT
    With regards to your specific goals, I would say it really isn't necessary to go nuts on the supps. If you're just looking to gain lean muscle, the focus should be on your diet. The supps are a booster or for the more advanced lifters. If anything, I would be looking into protein supps, since your goal is lean muscle. It helps in hitting your protein requirements to build that muscle, next to food.
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    Jan 11, 2014 8:01 AM GMT
    Wow. These are some pretty bold claims.. Burn fat, drop water, improve strength and size.
    http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11745458

    The only other supplement that I know that makes similar claims is Animal Pak. Probably the M Stack or Cuts formula.
    http://www.animalpak.com//html/sections.cfm?ID=9

    But honestly, if you're eating regularly, I don't think you need "performance vitamins". These days, I only take specific vitamins..

    Vitamin C
    Iron
    Calcium
    Potassium
    BCAA
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    Jan 19, 2014 12:23 AM GMT
    Seriously, a lot of people post about vitamins/supplements (sure they know that they should take them), but they don't know exactly what they do chemically in your body.

    Important: vitamins contain no Kcalories. Kcalories are the potential energy stored in food. You need Kcalories in order to do cellular work.

    Calcium-Please don't think of just your bones. Calcium is also very important in cell-to-cell communication in your nervous system.
    Phosphorus- binds with ADP (6 NADH, 2 FADH) to form ATP in the ATP synthase pump in the Krebs Cycle. Also, Phosphorus is a major component of cell membranes.
    Potassium-important for the nervous system which ionizes the cells to relay your physical movement.
    Iron-Hemoglobin to transport O2 in your blood (oxygen is required for cellular respiration because it is a great electron acceptor).
    Protein-Everyone knows that it helps you build muscle, but only because of the amino acids in it that your body hydrolyzes to form and replicate DNA in order to repair damaged tissues. Also, the amino acids are critical in the formation of biological enzymes that help reduce the energy required to do cellular work (you'd be dead without them).
    Folic Acid-important in blood formation/clotting.
    Drink a lot of WATER- I could type a whole paper about how important it is to you lol.
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    Jan 19, 2014 1:57 AM GMT
    ajlclimber saidI'm looking for someone to help me with choosing the right supplements. I usually just grab the GNC Ripped Vita-pack, but a couple of my friends say its a waste of money to get GNC brands.. however noone will show me a better program or set. I'm still working on lean muscle. Any help would be appretiated.


    Eat. Lean protein. Starchy carbs. Poly and mono fats. A balanced diet that provides surplus calories and proper nutrition will beat garbage from any nutrition store any day of the week.

    Save your money for something that works the best. It's called FOOD.
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    Jan 19, 2014 2:01 AM GMT
    stacked312 saidWith regards to your specific goals, I would say it really isn't necessary to go nuts on the supps. If you're just looking to gain lean muscle, the focus should be on your diet. The supps are a booster or for the more advanced lifters. If anything, I would be looking into protein supps, since your goal is lean muscle. It helps in hitting your protein requirements to build that muscle, next to food.


    Whey protein would be a good choice.

    Most of the other stuff is crap that you can get in a good diet, or a cup of coffee.
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    Jan 19, 2014 7:01 AM GMT
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