How ABC's The Bachelor is brainwashing people...both men and women

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    Jan 07, 2014 8:17 AM GMT
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    Yes, I watched the 1st episode of Bachelor today (missed yesterdays). I wasn't waiting for it, but I was clicking through the channels and hell, it's catchy like that lol. Plus I don't have cable.

    I honestly don't know why the hell I watch a show that is so degrading. Well, I do like watching the women walk away all hurt and cat fight lol. Women talk about how it's degrading to them...but you can go to ABC's website to read about that. My thing is, having only watched the past 2 bachelors...is the how they perpetuate this idea of White supremacy onto people.

    On this season, they choose someone who is Latino. Yes. But, he 'comfortably' appears to be the typical American, preppy White guy just like the last Bachelor. Not that the guy isn't cute (although I myself have a thing for the tanner/darker featured Latinos, but that's irrelevant to this topic), but it seems like they set it up that way. And then he's all on the tonight show with Jimmy Kimmel and even Jimmy is saying he's all 'handsome' and making little flirty comments with him. But see, they don't want to put a Black bachelor on there and be getting all that rank.

    I don't want to create a race debate here...but it's this kind of propaganda bullshit that brainwashes people. It's almost like, if you're this type of person, you are perceived as attractive by ALL races/backgrounds because you get to choose from all of them, and dismiss as needed. That you're considered more attractive, because you fit the 'American image' of attractiveness. Then, they throw up 2 Black girls on there, and not a single time as in the last season, do they ever show them making out. When I know for a FACT they probably are making out behind the scenes. But ABC won't show it. Why? Because it'll make him look like a freak?

    I think this kinda embodies the gay dating community as a whole in a way. It's more often than not, the same types being front cover in gay mags, being the #1 in porn, being the ones getting more attention at the bar. And if you're ethnic, you're either someone's dirty little secret or the partner of a feen.

    I'm not trying to sound like a poor sport or anything, but I just think the media and these TV shows kind of insinuate that these things are acceptable and normal. It's like come on. Can we get past it already? It's 2014. They still trying to water stuff down, and play up to what they think the majority would find 'acceptable'.
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    Jan 07, 2014 8:26 AM GMT
    Juan-uary? That's kinda racist.
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    Jan 07, 2014 8:35 AM GMT
    He is kinda hot.
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    Jan 07, 2014 9:11 AM GMT
    xrichx saidJuan-uary? That's kinda racist.


    Right now, I'm watching late night TV. Just hours after watching the Bachelor. When a Black guy is in another room with more than 1 other female, it's because he's either cheating or got a whole bunch pregnant and made out to look like a dog. When a White guy does it, he's just looking for love and it's glamorized. Again...this is what's being portrayed on TV. Yet, people don't understand it and think I am pulling the race card when I talk about how I blame issues in dating on race. It's not that I call people 'racist', I'm talking about the expectations and preconceived notions people have regarding it. Many of which are publicly broadcast thru livingrooms across the nation.

    I'm telling you...America hasn't really gone as far as people think we have. You have to be in a person's shoes to really notice it though. It's the little things, that matter.
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    Jan 07, 2014 9:19 AM GMT
    YourName2000 saidI would do crazy things to a guy like that. Not sure if I'll watch *all* the shows, because it can get pretty ratshit, but I've grown to appreciate the softer moments in the show


    I'm still *PROBABLY* going to watch all the shows when I'm home...as it's one of those shows that's so corny it's enjoyable. Plus, I'm a romantic at heart so it kinda suits me.

    But, I still can't hide the fact that there's some brainwashing going on here. Your post clearly exemplifies that. My post had nothing to do with what sexual positions you'd do with him, but ABC already has you thinking about it...despite him being portrayed as 'straight'. See what I mean?
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    Jan 07, 2014 9:31 AM GMT
    He's Gorgeous!

    But YES! Its more than just a cop out to put someone who looks white up there to show "diversity", it's pure racism
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    Jan 07, 2014 9:14 PM GMT
    I watch The Bachelor/Bachelorette show. I actually Really Liked Sean Lowe and thought he was the hottest bachelor ever

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    If anyone cares to know Sean ended up picking a woman of color as the winner ( asian ) and he also his most recent ex girlfriend was black.

    As far as the white latin " Juan " goes, Juan isnt very hot to me at all, I think people are getting caught up in the hype/propaganda and are fooling themselves into thinking he's hot. But really the hottest guy and overall best pick in Juan's season season was Michael Garafola, who was highly over looked underrated.

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    Anyway the only reason why Jaun is getting the the attention he is is because of his thick Spanish accent, but if you were to take that away he would be your basic american white guy .... nice looking, but still basic. As far as them having a bachelor/bachelorette of color I dont think that will happen for a long time
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    Jan 09, 2014 2:56 AM GMT
    Jaggal saidThat's because he IS white. Latino is NOT a race.


    Well, we are being brainwashed into thinking that he's the 1st non-White bachelor...

    CopperDevil said
    Anyway the only reason why Jaun is getting the the attention he is is because of his thick Spanish accent, but if you were to take that away he would be your basic american white guy .... nice looking, but still basic. As far as them having a bachelor/bachelorette of color I dont think that will happen for a long time


    He is basic...But whether they have a Bach of color or not is not really the issue.

    My thing is, people seem to say, "there needs to be more Black women/men on there, and who can WIN". But really? That doesn't make it any less degrading the show.

    What if ALL the girls/men were Black except 1 or 2. And he/she picked thru all 27 of them and married the White or Latina one? Would that make us feel any better? Especially after the show has put this idea in the heads of Americans that people of EVERY race want to be with a White-looking man. It's the very White-Supremacist poison that is being fed to people.

    The show is really subtle in it's message, but with this whole Juan not being White thing, they've pretty much just put the racial spotlight on themselves. They opened the door to talk about race. That's like saying me being born in USA which I am...so I must be non-Black. That's pretty much what they are saying.
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:27 AM GMT
    Maybe black people are not The Bachelor's target audience?

    If mostly white people watch the show, it's only smart for producers to give them more of what they want....icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:28 AM GMT
    xrichx saidJuan-uary? That's kinda racist.


    As a Latino, I can say no it's not.

    No need to nick pick at every little thing to try and find offense....icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:32 AM GMT
    CopperDevil saidI watch The Bachelor/Bachelorette show. I actually Really Liked Sean Lowe and thought he was the hottest bachelor ever

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    If anyone cares to know Sean ended up picking a woman of color as the winner ( asian ) and he also his most recent ex girlfriend was black.

    As far as the white latin " Juan " goes, Juan isnt very hot to me at all, I think people are getting caught up in the hype/propaganda and are fooling themselves into thinking he's hot. But really the hottest guy and overall best pick in Juan's season season was Michael Garafola, who was highly over looked underrated.

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    Anyway the only reason why Jaun is getting the the attention he is is because of his thick Spanish accent, but if you were to take that away he would be your basic american white guy .... nice looking, but still basic. As far as them having a bachelor/bachelorette of color I dont think that will happen for a long time


    So you say the whitest of the men were the hottest and the current guy is over hyped... I'm not at all attracted to your choices, the current guy is widely known as the hottest, the proof being this current season has already gotten the most views
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:41 AM GMT
    ReeBad19 said
    CopperDevil saidI watch The Bachelor/Bachelorette show. I actually Really Liked Sean Lowe and thought he was the hottest bachelor ever

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    If anyone cares to know Sean ended up picking a woman of color as the winner ( asian ) and he also his most recent ex girlfriend was black.

    As far as the white latin " Juan " goes, Juan isnt very hot to me at all, I think people are getting caught up in the hype/propaganda and are fooling themselves into thinking he's hot. But really the hottest guy and overall best pick in Juan's season season was Michael Garafola, who was highly over looked underrated.

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    Anyway the only reason why Jaun is getting the the attention he is is because of his thick Spanish accent, but if you were to take that away he would be your basic american white guy .... nice looking, but still basic. As far as them having a bachelor/bachelorette of color I dont think that will happen for a long time


    So you say the whitest of the men were the hottest and the current guy is over hyped... I'm not at all attracted to your choices, the current guy is widely known as the hottest, the proof being this current season has already gotten the most views


    I dont think Sean is the hottest because he's the "whitest", I simply think he's the hottest. Actually sometimes i cant decide weather or not I find Michael Garafola hotter or Sean, Michael is more my type but i do think Sean is the hottest. Juan is every bit as white as Sean and Michael so I dont see your point. I already said the only reason why people are jumping on the Juan bandwagon is because of the propaganda surrounding him. When Juan was booted off he started crying and talking about how he was a single father and everyone took it and ran with it. However no one though much about the fact that Michael cried too when he was booted off and the first and only person he called was his mother on the way home, I thought it was very touching, Id rather have the man who is close to his mother and looks out for you and can sniff out douche bags rather then just some guy with an accent. Like i said if Juan had a regular american accent he probably wouldn't have even been the bachelor.
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:45 AM GMT
    Copper its fine...

    I see we just have Very different taste
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:46 AM GMT
    Why is it that black people care about a Latino issue?

    Even I don't give a fuck. Seriously, if Latinos's aren't offended, why are you?
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:47 AM GMT
    ReeBad19 saidCopper its fine...

    I see we just have Very different taste


    Yes Ree it's fine...

    We do have different tastes
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:55 AM GMT
    I personally think Roberto Martinez would have been a better choice but I hear he turned the roll down....

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    Jan 09, 2014 5:16 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidMaybe black people are not The Bachelor's target audience?

    If mostly white people watch the show, it's only smart for producers to give them more of what they want....icon_rolleyes.gif


    That's how it looks on the surface. But, more inquisitive and creative minds will see beyond that. I see beyond that.

    Yes it's just a show. And yes they can 'claim' it's targetting a certain audience, blah blah blah. But fact of the matter is, there's a subtle message that it's sending and it's very subliminal. And offensive. Like I say, I'll still watch it. I want to know what poison the enemy is feeding people, so I know how to dodge it. You can't fight the enemy if you don't know his schemes.

    It's not about Black people caring about a Latino issue. Try to think deeper than that, mi amigo.
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    Jan 09, 2014 5:19 AM GMT
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    jmusmc85 saidMaybe black people are not The Bachelor's target audience?

    If mostly white people watch the show, it's only smart for producers to give them more of what they want....icon_rolleyes.gif


    That's how it looks on the surface. But, more inquisitive and creative minds will see beyond that. I see beyond that.

    Yes it's just a show. And yes they can 'claim' it's targetting a certain audience, blah blah blah. But fact of the matter is, there's a subtle message that it's sending and it's very subliminal. And offensive.

    It's not about Black people caring about a Latino issue. Try to think deeper than that, mi amigo.


    How bout you not think so deep into everything, my brotha....

    There are far bigger fish to fry than a reality TV show that may or may not be sending the wrong message about race. If people were half as passionate about poverty, education, gun violence, and other more important things than this wouldn't even be an issue...because it's not!!!!

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    Jan 09, 2014 5:24 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 said
    There are far bigger fish to fry than a reality TV show that may or may not be sending the wrong message about race. If people were half as passionate about poverty, education, gun violence, and other more important things than this wouldn't even be an issue...because it's not!!!!



    Mi hermano, those issues are still alive and present. But we are talking about the bachelor. This is the thread to talk about how media imposes their idea of the ideal human/husband...which everytime seems to be a White guy.

    Think about it. There have been no non-White bachelors. Now there 'apparently' is. And he's STILL White.

    Now...you have all these women of various races, thirstily wanting to get married to the White man. Come on now. Can you not see what message that sends? By not putting any other race of bachelor on there, it's clear they are are perpetuating an idea that White is RIGHT. That's the real truth right there. Because no way in hell would they want to publicly broadcast a Black man having all these White women after him because the conservs would be butt hurt.

    Like I said, on the surface it's just a TV show and ratings. Beneath that, there's a very clear message.

    I wrote on my blog, that whenever a Black man is shown on TV being in a room with more than 1 woman, he's made out to look like a dog because he got them all pregnant or cheating. When a White guy does it, it's for love and it's glamorized by ABC as the bachelor. But what reason would they have to not put a brutha on there even if it's the same # of White women that's always on there? How would the target audience change? That's how TV portrays it. And it's pure cyanide.

    And Latinos should be offended. Because they skipped over all the way handsome darker ones like Jmusky85...and went straight for the Whiter one. White is right, even in Latino culture -says ABC bachelor
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    Jan 09, 2014 6:14 AM GMT
    I think everyone on TV should be black so we don't have to hear all this bullshit
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    Jan 09, 2014 6:37 AM GMT
    YourName2000 saidI think this thread has had more changes to its title than there have even been bachelors. icon_biggrin.gif


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    Jan 09, 2014 10:26 AM GMT
    somersault saidI think everyone on TV should be black so we don't have to hear all this bullshit


    If that was the case, I would be posting the same thing. But it's not the case so I can't post about it. So shut the fuck up.

    How about we not pussyfoot around the subject by making KO type of comments to appease the fact that someone has noticed some bullshit.

    Making everyone on TV Black is not what I'm even remotely suggesting. I'm specifically talking about the TV show the bachelor and the message it send.


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    Jan 09, 2014 10:35 AM GMT
    YourName2000 saidI think this thread has had more changes to its title than there have even been bachelors. icon_biggrin.gif


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    Jan 09, 2014 10:39 AM GMT
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    Yes, I watched the 1st episode of Bachelor today (missed yesterdays). I wasn't waiting for it, but I was clicking through the channels and hell, it's catchy like that lol. Plus I don't have cable.

    I honestly don't know why the hell I watch a show that is so degrading. Well, I do like watching the women walk away all hurt and cat fight lol. Women talk about how it's degrading to them...but you can go to ABC's website to read about that. My thing is, having only watched the past 2 bachelors...is the how they perpetuate this idea of White supremacy onto people.

    On this season, they choose someone who is Latino. Yes. But, he 'comfortably' appears to be the typical American, preppy White guy just like the last Bachelor. Not that the guy isn't cute (although I myself have a thing for the tanner/darker featured Latinos, but that's irrelevant to this topic), but it seems like they set it up that way. And then he's all on the tonight show with Jimmy Kimmel and even Jimmy is saying he's all 'handsome' and making little flirty comments with him. But see, they don't want to put a Black bachelor on there and be getting all that rank.

    I don't want to create a race debate here...but it's this kind of propaganda bullshit that brainwashes people. It's almost like, if you're this type of person, you are perceived as attractive by ALL races/backgrounds because you get to choose from all of them, and dismiss as needed. That you're considered more attractive, because you fit the 'American image' of attractiveness. Then, they throw up 2 Black girls on there, and not a single time as in the last season, do they ever show them making out. When I know for a FACT they probably are making out behind the scenes. But ABC won't show it. Why? Because it'll make him look like a freak?

    I think this kinda embodies the gay dating community as a whole in a way. It's more often than not, the same types being front cover in gay mags, being the #1 in porn, being the ones getting more attention at the bar. And if you're ethnic, you're either someone's dirty little secret or the partner of a feen.

    I'm not trying to sound like a poor sport or anything, but I just think the media and these TV shows kind of insinuate that these things are acceptable and normal. It's like come on. Can we get past it already? It's 2014. They still trying to water stuff down, and play up to what they think the majority would find 'acceptable'.


    It's a given. I'd love to see a mix. A hot Asian or hot black bachelor pick from a whole mix of beautiful women of different races..... icon_smile.gif