Swimming with fins (aka 'flippers')

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    Jan 09, 2014 1:41 AM GMT
    Hey guys,

    Just wondering if any of you use short fins during training? If so, what's your experience been of these?

    I've read reports that these can help improve body position and also strengthen leg muscles and thus build a more effective kick over time.

    I'm also aware of the potential for growing dependent on them..

    Any tips on how to get the most out of these aids would be much appreciated.

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    Jan 09, 2014 2:14 AM GMT
    Flipping your fins you don't get too far.
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    Jan 09, 2014 2:56 AM GMT
    Not the answer you were looking for but I continuously lap swim almost exclusively with zoomer fins and gloves to reduce speed and promote a more inefficient kick/stroke. That sounds counterintuitive but the first time I did that within 5 months I went from size 42 speedos to 31s in five months and became an adonis while most masters swimmers I'd have to compete for lane space with, who'd sprint against the clock for two minutes and then coffee klatch for five, stayed fat. They got what they were looking for, tinny plastic trophies, and I got what I was looking for.

    The versatility of using drag-promoting fins (not that kind of drag) can't be beat since as you can often find yourself behind a slowpoke who avoids the "SLOW" lane so as not to be perceived as "slow," you can make lemonade outta that lemon by modifying your stroke on a dime to make your speed slower and harder.

    As for becoming dependent on them when I'm traveling and don't want to pack and lug around a heavy pair of fins I make do and am just fine.
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    Jan 09, 2014 3:05 AM GMT
    Legs, are required, for jumping dancing
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    Jan 09, 2014 4:02 AM GMT
    Matiz saidLegs, are required, for jumping dancing


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    Jan 09, 2014 4:10 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidNot the answer you were looking for but I continuously lap swim almost exclusively with zoomer fins and gloves to reduce speed and promote a more inefficient kick/stroke. That sounds counterintuitive but the first time I did that within 5 months I went from size 42 speedos to 31s in five months and became an adonis while most masters swimmers I'd have to compete for lane space with, who'd sprint against the clock for two minutes and then coffee klatch for five, stayed fat. They got what they were looking for, tinny plastic trophies, and I got what I was looking for.

    The versatility of using drag-promoting fins (not that kind of drag) can't be beat since as you can often find yourself behind a slowpoke who avoids the "SLOW" lane so as not to be perceived as "slow," you can make lemonade outta that lemon by modifying your stroke on a dime to make your speed slower and harder.

    As for becoming dependent on them when I'm traveling and don't want to pack and lug around a heavy pair of fins I make do and am just fine.
    Thanks, EM. I've been wondering about this myself.
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    Jan 09, 2014 4:12 AM GMT
    Thanks for the helpful replies...will keep in mind that fins are not so good for dancing icon_wink.gif

    So, eagermuscle, by upping the resistance, the fins/gloves helped you work harder and burn more calories eh?

    p.s. I meant to post this in the 'swimming' thread. Nothing especially gay about this topic. Though I kind of feel like a merman in flippers.

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    Jan 09, 2014 6:08 AM GMT
    Dunno... fins are great for adding resistance, maybe in the river or the ocean, but don't you zoom to the end of a pool too fast? I see guys wearing drag shorts (not that kind) with pockets that open up to catch water, and slow them down. I've got a couple different kinds (of fins) for diving, but they're way too big for a pool. Good workouts though.
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    Jan 09, 2014 6:10 AM GMT
    Hard to say whether I burned more calories with increased resistance since I didn't sprint. Though since I would steady state swim non-stop for at least 40 minutes at a near-sprint perhaps I did, though the HIIT crowd might beg to differ, or argue that metabolically I wasn't stimulated enough to burn as many calories afterwards as the sprint-resters. I'm no expert, I only know that my visual results compared to theirs spoke volumes, and though they might beat me in a race my EKG results would probably beat theirs.

    I just read your profile and I suspect that you probably want to add mass to look even more studly so the increased resistance might be a good bet. I believe it's best to wait at least six hours between lifting and doing any cardio activity, otherwise the cardio might catabolize/diminish your muscle gains.
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    Jan 09, 2014 6:13 AM GMT
    Brave_New_World said

    p.s. I meant to post this in the 'swimming' thread. Nothing especially gay about this topic. Though I kind of feel like a merman in flippers.



    It's the new drop down that you click on to determine the forum. I had a couple show up in the main forum , too.

    Howdy, A! it's been awhile and Happy 2014!

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    Jan 09, 2014 6:24 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidDunno... fins are great for adding resistance, maybe in the river or the ocean, but don't you zoom to the end of a pool too fast? I see guys wearing drag shorts (not that kind) with pockets that open up to catch water, and slow them down. I've got a couple different kinds (of fins) for diving, but they're way too big for a pool. Good workouts though.

    Zoomers are swim fins that extend only a few inches beyond the toes, not snorkeling fins. They either speed you up or slow you down depending on how you use them. I've actually recently switched from traditional speedos to regular mid-thigh length pocketless swim trunks to further increase the resistance. But I prefer the speedos because they're lighter to carry and dry quickly, and my YMCA crammed with older dudes is like Europe in that lots of guys wear small speedos for lap swim - including masters swimmers who shouldn't - and no one bats an eyelash. This was more important back when I'd have to take my swim gear on the commuter train with me to work and discreetly hang the speedos under my desk!

    Again, I rarely use the fins for their intended purpose of greater speed and control but for increased drag coupled with an intentionally inefficient stroke.
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    Jan 09, 2014 11:36 AM GMT
    Gave it a go...split my swim: 1km with / 1km without fins. Felt like I was swimming with a rocket booster. While using the fins, I found I was able to really focus on my technique, in terms of body roll and arm position. Going to enjoy using these, I think.
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    Jan 09, 2014 5:27 PM GMT
    I was in the swimteam for 4 years in HS , and we used to practice with fins , at that time (in the 70's ) it was the long ones , our coach fancied them as it would correct our and improve our body position ..
    Now-days , i frequently use the short ones when i swim in the sea .
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    Jan 09, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
    I guess my comment above sounded pretty stupid - "get to the end of the pool too fast." I wasn't thinking about racing but the frustrations of trying to exercise in a pool that's already too short.

    For barefoot swimming in open water, I have a pair of force fins. They look kinda dorky, but people always want to try them on. Looks like they make a shorter version for pool use now. Yowza! I don't remember paying that much, but I've had them for... a looong time.
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