To make more money on real estate, find a "New Gaybourhood"

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    Jan 09, 2014 6:54 AM GMT
    Also an interesting bit on lesbians...

    http://freakonomics.com/2014/01/08/gayborhoods-and-heat-waves-at-this-years-aea-meetings/

    Janice Madden of the University of Pennsylvania and Matthew Ruther of the University of Colorado studied census tract data and the American Community Survey to examine the locations of gay male and lesbian partnerships in 38 large U.S. cities. They found that census tracts that start the decade with more gay men experienced significantly greater growth in household incomes and, in the Northeast and West, also greater population growth over the next decade than those census tracts with fewer gay men. Census tracts with more lesbians at the start of the decade saw no difference in population or income growth.
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    Jan 09, 2014 7:00 AM GMT
    I think the whole concept of a "gayborhood" is disappearing. If you look at cities like San Francisco and New York, there are very few of the old gay enclaves left. This is partly because the yuppies with big money have outbid the 'mos who turned the neighborhoods around, but also because younger men (I don't really know about lesbians) don't place much value on living in gay-concentrated areas anymore. At least from the young guys I talk to regularly that seems true. And in Wilton Manors, which is really the only gayborhood left in Florida (Key West and SoBe having turned mostly straight), the population tends to be from my generation or the one directly following. Very few of the younger guys.
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    Jan 09, 2014 7:14 AM GMT
    Aristoshark saidI think the whole concept of a "gayborhood" is disappearing. If you look at cities like San Francisco and New York, there are very few of the old gay enclaves left. This is partly because the yuppies with big money have outbid the 'mos who turned the neighborhoods around, but also because younger men (I don't really know about lesbians) don't place much value on living in gay-concentrated areas anymore. At least from the young guys I talk to regularly that seems true. And in Wilton Manors, which is really the only gayborhood left in Florida (Key West and SoBe having turned mostly straight), the population tends to be from my generation or the one directly following. Very few of the younger guys.


    Same has happened around here with the first German Village and then the Short North for the gays. Next will be the 'Bottoms' (Franklinton) all the way to Hilltop. Lesbians have long lived all over the MSA, but in higher concentrations in Clintonville. But homosexuals overall have long assimilated just about anywhere north of I-70 in the MSA. South Columbus is another matter.
  • Apparition

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    Jan 10, 2014 6:58 PM GMT
    Gay men dont require good schools, or safety as much, and contrary to forum count, they really arent interested in the race of the neighbourhood because they dont have to interact with them if they dont want to, so they can buy cheap in depressed neighbourhoods. They fix things up either just by maintenance..or by fabulosity, a few more move in just due to the lower requirements, and once you have an area looking normal again the atmosphere changes and prices rise. Lesbians are still women and thus fearful as a population. They also tend to have more kids so statistically act like str8's. Single str8 males dont improve neighbourhoods because they have to attract females who wont go to places that arent "nice" so str8 males would generally pay more right away in a better place, whereas a gay date doesnt really worry.

    Pretend this was more structurallly sound, this is gay man heaven, but single mom with a 5 year old? Not so much. Now if the whole block was like this...the gays would be snapping them up.
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    Jan 10, 2014 7:31 PM GMT
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    That photo is scary! And it has telephone poles...say no to telephone poles. ;) Gay men are typically drawn to beautiful areas.




    I wish that we had a new gayborhood in California (other than the desert). The current ones are already really expensive to live.
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    Jan 10, 2014 7:41 PM GMT
    Most affordable gay-friendly neighborhoods in 10 major cities


    http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/19/real_estate/gay-cities/


    So this is one of the most affordable:

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Brisbane_CA


    Well...this one is more affordable but not a city I would want to live in: Signal Hill, CA

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Signal-Hill_CA

    I would pick Belmont Shores over Signal Hill....but way too expensive for me:
    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/90803
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    Jan 10, 2014 9:00 PM GMT
    metta8 saidMost affordable gay-friendly neighborhoods in 10 major cities


    http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/19/real_estate/gay-cities/


    So this is one of the most affordable:

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Brisbane_CA


    Well...this one is more affordable but not a city I would want to live in: Signal Hill, CA

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Signal-Hill_CA

    I would pick Belmont Shores over Signal Hill....but way too expensive for me:
    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/90803


    So you really don't think Simi Valley would do ?
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    Jan 10, 2014 11:29 PM GMT
    Maybe there's less of a need for gay neighborhoods given the internet and "acceptance" but I find their disappearance kinda heartbreaking.

    I knew South Beach was no longer gay on that except for two clubs the scene has moved to Lauderdale, but Key West too? Aside from a little enclave in Coconut Grove in the 70s, my earliest exposure to gay neighborhoods was Key West in the 80s (on the 7 mile bridge en route back to Miami we heard the news of Princess Grace of Monaco being driven off the cliff by her daughter Stephanie, seriously!) and Provincetown summer 1987 where I saw for the first time that gays were tan and muscular (who knew?) and I was first exposed to gay camp directed at me while I was biking back uphill trying to get back to my Truro youth hostel which closed at sunset - some gay guesthouse residents started humming the Margaret-Hamilton-riding-her-bike theme from "The Wizard of Oz." (Funny what one remembers.) I sure hope P-Town's still a gay enclave.
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    Jan 10, 2014 11:31 PM GMT
    ViciousRumor saidIsn't it good though that more and more gays are abandoning the idea of being splintered off into a seprate society as we are gaining more and more acceptance?

    There are pros and cons.
    For those already comfortably "out", sure, it isn't necessary or important to live among gays. But there still needs to be a place for people who come from towns in, say, rural Oklahoma to live in an affirming area while they decompress from the hatred they've been exposed to all their lives.
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    Mar 13, 2014 2:48 AM GMT
    A Gay Neighborhood also known as a Gayborhood, Gay Ghetto, Gay District, Gay Mecca Or Gay Village where most of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBTQ) community lives.

    These Gay villages consists of large number of gay-oriented establishments, including gay bars and pubs, nightclubs, restaurants, boutiques, bookstores and lots more.

    Most of the gay-friendly neighborhoods are situated in some of the country's most expensive real-estate markets. Among the most famous gay communities are London's Soho, Manchester's Canal Street, New York's Chelsea, San Francisco's The Castro, Washington D.C.'s DuPont Circle, Chicago's Boystown, Montreal's Le Village, and Berlin's Nollendorfplatz. I found a lot of information on these neighborhoods from gayrealestate.com

    Recently Chicago's north side Boystown neighborhood was named as the World’s best gay neighborhood. These communities can be typically found in the expensive/ working-class or trendy parts of the city.

    According to a study, the U.S. city New York has the highest gay population estimated to 272,493 gay residents.Second highest gay population is Los Angeles with 154,270, followed by Chicago with 114,449 and San Francisco with 94,234.
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    Mar 15, 2014 4:58 PM GMT
    Sharkadelic saidI think the whole concept of a "gayborhood" is disappearing. If you look at cities like San Francisco and New York, there are very few of the old gay enclaves left. This is partly because the yuppies with big money have outbid the 'mos who turned the neighborhoods around, but also because younger men (I don't really know about lesbians) don't place much value on living in gay-concentrated areas anymore. At least from the young guys I talk to regularly that seems true. And in Wilton Manors, which is really the only gayborhood left in Florida (Key West and SoBe having turned mostly straight), the population tends to be from my generation or the one directly following. Very few of the younger guys.


    I think for me i would prefer to live in a specific gay neighborhood icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 15, 2014 5:05 PM GMT
    Dennis1989 said
    Sharkadelic saidI think the whole concept of a "gayborhood" is disappearing. If you look at cities like San Francisco and New York, there are very few of the old gay enclaves left. This is partly because the yuppies with big money have outbid the 'mos who turned the neighborhoods around, but also because younger men (I don't really know about lesbians) don't place much value on living in gay-concentrated areas anymore. At least from the young guys I talk to regularly that seems true. And in Wilton Manors, which is really the only gayborhood left in Florida (Key West and SoBe having turned mostly straight), the population tends to be from my generation or the one directly following. Very few of the younger guys.


    I think for me i would prefer to live in a specific gay neighborhood icon_smile.gif


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    Mar 15, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
    Dennis1989 said
    Sharkadelic saidI think the whole concept of a "gayborhood" is disappearing. If you look at cities like San Francisco and New York, there are very few of the old gay enclaves left. This is partly because the yuppies with big money have outbid the 'mos who turned the neighborhoods around, but also because younger men (I don't really know about lesbians) don't place much value on living in gay-concentrated areas anymore. At least from the young guys I talk to regularly that seems true. And in Wilton Manors, which is really the only gayborhood left in Florida (Key West and SoBe having turned mostly straight), the population tends to be from my generation or the one directly following. Very few of the younger guys.


    I think for me i would prefer to live in a specific gay neighborhood icon_smile.gif


    I liked living in Vauxhall, sometimes when i was walking to work looking rough I would see something like a guy with a beard checking me out which cheered me up a bit. Also there was a funny leather/fetish club on the way to the underground and I would see some...interesting sights walking past it icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 15, 2014 7:27 PM GMT
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    Dennis1989 said
    Sharkadelic saidI think the whole concept of a "gayborhood" is disappearing. If you look at cities like San Francisco and New York, there are very few of the old gay enclaves left. This is partly because the yuppies with big money have outbid the 'mos who turned the neighborhoods around, but also because younger men (I don't really know about lesbians) don't place much value on living in gay-concentrated areas anymore. At least from the young guys I talk to regularly that seems true. And in Wilton Manors, which is really the only gayborhood left in Florida (Key West and SoBe having turned mostly straight), the population tends to be from my generation or the one directly following. Very few of the younger guys.


    I think for me i would prefer to live in a specific gay neighborhood icon_smile.gif


    I liked living in Vauxhall, sometimes when i was walking to work looking rough I would see something like a guy with a beard checking me out which cheered me up a bit. Also there was a funny leather/fetish club on the way to the underground and I would see some...interesting sights walking past it icon_biggrin.gif
    Sounds like my town on a early morning haha
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    Mar 15, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
    metta8 said^
    That photo is scary! And it has telephone poles...say no to telephone poles. ;) Gay men are typically drawn to beautiful areas.

    It's also from the 1960s. Look at the cars, the clothing, the garbage cans are metal, and the tire on the lawn is a wide whitewall. The man is wearing a hat and topcoat. One of the boys is wearing a hooded jacket (not a flannel hoodie), with the hood unzipped & open across his back, revealing its bright lining. All totally 60s.