New Jersey dude on Christie

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    Jan 12, 2014 12:20 AM GMT
    First of I voted for him in 2013, but not 2009. I liked his taking on the public pension issues which are a major predicament that should be addressed and that was a large part of my backing. Anyways, I was appalled that the people in his admin were involved. I hope he wasnt. I dont know and I'm not going to conjecture. I did note some sender/receivers were redacted. I want to know - and shoul dknow - who they are. I suspect his press guy Michael Drewniak is in there. I'm stunned a $140K a year Bridget Ann Kelly would engage in such sophomoric shenanigans like this against a no name mayor in an election that he was going to win by 20+ points! I want a thorough and unyielding examination of this whole affair.
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    Jan 12, 2014 12:22 AM GMT
    NJDewd saidFirst of I voted for him in 2013, but not 2009. I liked his taking on the public pension issues which are a major predicament that should be addressed and that was a large part of my backing. Anyways, I was appalled that the people in his admin were involved. I hope he wasnt. I dont know and I'm not going to conjecture. I did note some sender/receivers were redacted. I want to know - and shoul dknow - who they are. I suspect his press guy Michael Drewniak is in there. I'm stunned a $140K a year Bridget Ann Kelly would engage in such sophomoric shenanigans like this against a no name mayor in an election that he was going to win by 20+ points! I want a thorough and unyielding examination of this whole affair.

    As Rachel Maddow pointed out, it probably isn't about the mayor at all.
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    Jan 12, 2014 12:24 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidWe need to know whether Christie is another Nixon. The country needs to know that.


    Well he said "I'm not a bully" jowls flapping but it wasn't "I'm not a crook"!
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    Jan 12, 2014 12:35 AM GMT
    I felt he handled the 2 hour press conference the other day relatively well.
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    Jan 12, 2014 2:37 AM GMT
    I think one of the issues he'll have to come up with some miraculous explanation for is why it took so long after the closure before he addressed the issues in a serious manner. It seems he was not concerned until the emails from his own staff started appearing, then it was major damage control.
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    Jan 12, 2014 2:40 AM GMT
    eb925guy saidI think one of the issues he'll have to come up with some miraculous explanation for is why it took so long after the closure before he addressed the issues in a serious manner. It seems he was not concerned until the emails from his own staff started appearing, then it was major damage control.


    The emails released indicate they were going to try to hunker down and let it blow over.
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    Jan 12, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    Hillary is so happy this is happening to Christie right now. Good ammo against Christie come campaign season. Love it.
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    Jan 12, 2014 3:49 AM GMT
    There's some good reporting on how this all fell apart for Christie by Josh Barro@BusinessInsider.

    "At first, the messages among Christie's team about the traffic jams were gleeful ("They are the children of Buono voters," Wildstein wrote of kids stuck on school buses) but that glee turned to alarm as both the media and Port Authority Executive Director Patrick Foye, an appointee of Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-N.Y.), took notice. "Ted Mann just called my cell," Wildstein texted Baroni on Sept. 17, referring to the Wall Street Journal's transportation reporter. "Jesus," responded Baroni.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chris-christie-bridge-scandal-2014-1#ixzz2q9W1Cbt8
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    Jan 12, 2014 3:55 AM GMT
    And it gets a lot worse when Republican leaders turn on Christie.
    KRAUTHAMMER: Chris Christie Is Now 'Hostage To The Truth'

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/charles-krauthammer-chris-christie-bridge-scandal-gwb-lane-closures-2014-1#ixzz2q9XJCz6w

    "Christie's strength is how tough he is, but it can become a negative if the toughness is a petty toughness,"
    Krauthammer said.
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    Jan 12, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidwith all the fuckery that takes place in this state, this is nothing. christie is good and this will be gone and forgotten. dude has been doing this since the moment he got elected in 2009. folks in the loop know. plenty of folks have been getting thrown under the bus and the people in his circle are all corrupted too. all double dipping and shit like the lieutenant governor while talking about how teacher unions are making the state broke. it's just politicians politicking. he's just following tradition. name a governor of our state that didn't have dirt on em. corzine stealing millions from wall street, mcgreevy basically coming out the closet and using that as a scapegoat to avoid indictment for all his dirty laundry, christie whitman and her bullshit.... the state police, police departments, department of transportation, mayors, judges, board of education and the whole nine. what's new? this whole state is fucked up. explains why so many people are leaving.


    I have two stellar ones: Tom Kean & Brendan Byrne.
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    Jan 12, 2014 1:33 PM GMT
    Import saidHillary is so happy this is happening to Christie right now. Good ammo against Christie come campaign season. Love it.

    Hillary should be worried about her own candidacy. As much as I support Hillary, she's too Washington-associated, not to mention a third way Democrat. I sense a repeat of Bush senior at best.
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    Jan 12, 2014 3:10 PM GMT
    NJDewd said
    I have two stellar ones: Tom Kean & Brendan Byrne.

    My Republican parents knew them both quite well, and liked them. I once attended a political conference in Cherry Hill with Tom Kean in the early '70s. In fact, he rode in my car, and we later both got a little sloshed together at a Harvey Wallbanger punch bowl at a reception, I think for Essex County Republicans. (I still believe somebody spiked it, I've never hallucinated from drinking before or since) But a very nice guy in person, very affable.

    Strictly speaking I really wasn't supposed to be at a political event, attending college but still an Army Officer in civilian attire. But my parents encouraged me to go, they wanted me to forget about the Army and take up something "respectable" with a brighter future, like politics. icon_eek.gif

    They were mortified that I had chosen the Army, only begrudgingly accepting my career when I became a Field Grade Officer, and realized I wasn't gonna change. But at that time they wanted me to have these connections, and in fact Byrne's Administration, though Democratic, offered me the position of Executive Director of New Jersey Network (public TV affiliated with PBS, later including radio) in 1980 when I returned from Germany.

    They wanted me to initially operate out of Newark, where I would also wear the hat of TV Station Manager to get their newest studio up to speed (until then they only had Trenton). Stupid me, I turned it down so I could take my scheduled Officer Advanced Course and continue my military career. Then Tom Kean became Governor while I was on the staff at the US Army MP School, and I told my parents to stop fishing for political appointments for me, I wasn't gonna take them, I was happy where I was.

    But that's the networking and influence that goes on in these things, at least in New Jersey, no doubt how Christie formed a good part of his own staff. And why he ended up with the results he's got now. If somebody like ME could be offered these things in the past, based solely on family connections, imagine the others working for him. icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 12, 2014 3:36 PM GMT
    Yes I liked them both AND Florio. Florio got a bum rap as the economy tanked right as he assumed office so he had to cut programs and raise taxes. He also didnt have a good public persona. Byrne was an excellent governor and most notably established the Pinelands Protection area (in 2004 by edict of Gov. McGreevey on the 25th anniversary of the legisltion being passed and signed by Byrne, Lebanon State Forest was renamed Byrne State Forest in his honor). Byrne gained fame as an Essex County Judge when it was revealed on Mafia wiretaps that the dons referred to him as "squeaky clean" and "off the market"...The post Watergate election of 1973 allowed him to cruise to victory over Charles Sandman, who had upset Gov. William Cahill (R) in the primary.
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    Jan 12, 2014 3:42 PM GMT
    BW Ft. Lee NJ was the cradle of the motion picture industry as NY companies would rent out cheaper studios in Fort Lee before the entire industry moved West for more favorable year round climate and back then before the LA area got going cheap rent!