Texan Republican Rep. Randy Weber moves bill to stop US government recognizing gay married couples when they move states

  • metta

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    Jan 14, 2014 5:00 PM GMT
    Texan Republican Representative Randy Weber has introduced legislation which would effectively divorce same-sex married couples in the eyes of the US Government if they moved to a state that bans gay marriage

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/republican-moves-bill-stop-us-government-recognizing-gay-married-couples-when-they-move-stat
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 14, 2014 9:23 PM GMT
    More anti gay hatred and ignorance from a Texas congressman. He is from Texas so that explains it all. Go figure.
  • thadjock

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    Jan 14, 2014 10:14 PM GMT
    time people time.

    in due course individual states will not be able to legislatively "opt out" of federal recognition of gay marriages, trust me, it's not called the UNITED STATES of america for nothing.

    old school bigots will die off. and every self-loathing closeted republican sponsoring such hate bills will be outed by their own social network.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 14, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    It is time to permanently boot Texas out of the union and make it a special reservation for all these old school bigots to be administered by the United Nations.
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    Jan 14, 2014 11:57 PM GMT
    Another small dick redneck douchebag begging for attention.
  • tazzari

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    Jan 15, 2014 12:33 AM GMT
    That great, big ol' GOP Tent!

    Conservaposse response?

  • thadjock

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    Jan 15, 2014 12:50 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    This is exactly how President Obama wants it. As he stated at the end of his "evolving" on the issue, this is an issue to be decided state by state.



    well u should probably brace yourself, it'll be federal soon enough.
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    Jan 15, 2014 3:43 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP Tent!

    Conservaposse response?




    This is exactly how President Obama wants it. As he stated at the end of his "evolving" on the issue, this is an issue to be decided state by state.

    If it's good enough for my President, it's good enough for me. Who am I to question him?


    Exactly, you shouldn't. Just think, if your Romney had gotten in..he would have tried to make a federal law and/or change to your constitution forbidding it even on a State level.

    http://mittromneycentral.com/on-the-issues/same-sex-marriage/
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    Jan 15, 2014 5:00 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    southbeach1500 said
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP Tent!

    Conservaposse response?




    This is exactly how President Obama wants it. As he stated at the end of his "evolving" on the issue, this is an issue to be decided state by state.

    If it's good enough for my President, it's good enough for me. Who am I to question him?


    Exactly, you shouldn't. Just think, if your Romney had gotten in..he would have tried to make a federal law and/or change to your constitution forbidding it even on a State level.

    http://mittromneycentral.com/on-the-issues/same-sex-marriage/


    Federal law would most likely be found unconstitutional under the Full Faith and Credit clause, Article 4, Section 1.

    Constitutional amendment is really difficult, taking 3/4 of the states.
  • thadjock

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    Jan 15, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
    rkyjockdn said

    Federal law would most likely be found unconstitutional under the Full Faith and Credit clause, Article 4, Section 1.

    Constitutional amendment is really difficult, taking 3/4 of the states.


    yeah i don't think sane parties on either side of the argument expect a constitutional amendment, although the DOM'ers still think they're going to get one.

    Unification will happen through some federal ( SCOTUS ) ruling, that would effectively strike down a patchwork of state by state marriage statutes , and recognize the legality of same sex spouses no matter where they lived or moved to under the marriage umbrella.
  • Menergy_1

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    Jan 16, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    And nobody has yet posted the news that the 10th Federal Circuit Court judge just struck down Oklahoma's state constitutional amendment prohibiting
    same sex marriages? The federal judge has stayed the ruling pending appeal, but not for long, I hope! The state constitution's popular vote-approved amendment is unconstitutional in the face of the US Constitution's protections.

    Utah, Oklahoma, who's next? Texas? LOL
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 18, 2014 3:32 PM GMT
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP Tent!

    Conservaposse response?

    That is Texas for you, intolerant, religious, ultra conservative, breeder land. Formerly the lone star state, it is now officially the giant tea party state.














  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 18, 2014 4:36 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP Tent!

    Conservaposse response?

    That is Texas for you, intolerant, religious, ultra conservative, breeder land. Formerly the lone star state, it is now officially the giant tea party state.



    You might want to retract at least some of that comment. You are sounding quite a bit like Art_Deco.
    We are talking about Texas so there is no retracting any of this statement because it is the absolute truth. If we were talking about Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina than I would gladly retract some of the words in my statement because those three states will become purple swing states in the not too distant future. I am sure that Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina will all have gay marriage long before Texas makes any serious attempt to legalize it.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 18, 2014 4:49 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP Tent!

    Conservaposse response?

    That is Texas for you, intolerant, religious, ultra conservative, breeder land. Formerly the lone star state, it is now officially the giant tea party state.



    You might want to retract at least some of that comment. You are sounding quite a bit like Art_Deco.
    We are talking about Texas so there is no retracting any of this statement because it is the absolute truth. If we were talking about Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina than I would gladly retract some of the words in my statement because those three states will become purple swing states in the not too distant future. I am sure that Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina will all have gay marriage long before Texas makes any serious attempt to legalize it.


    I have family in Texas and they certainly are not:

    intolerant, religious, ultra conservative

    I also am in Texas quite a bit and have never observed that the population is hostile towards gays at all.

    Of course that can all be called "anecdotal" but by making such broad, sweeping, general statements as you have done is unfair, inaccurate and shows a person with a closed mind, a.k.a. Mr. Deco.
    Trust me, I lived in Texas for ten years. It is definitely not a gay friendly state and most likely will never be gay friendly unless federal courts order them to do so.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 18, 2014 4:54 PM GMT
    No matter what republican leaders try to do to prevent gay people from having rights, Southbeach1500 is right there defending them, and throwing gay men under the bus.icon_confused.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 18, 2014 4:58 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidNo matter what republican leaders try to do to prevent gay people from having rights, Southbeach1500 is right there defending them, and throwing gay men under the bus.icon_confused.gif
    And covering up for Texas by defending it anyway he possibly can but the truth always comes out about the erstwhile lone star state.
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    Jan 18, 2014 5:06 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidNo matter what republican leaders try to do to prevent gay people from having rights, Southbeach1500 is right there defending them, and throwing gay men under the bus.icon_confused.gif


    he's just pissed cause he never gets laid
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 18, 2014 5:13 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    HottJoe saidNo matter what republican leaders try to do to prevent gay people from having rights, Southbeach1500 is right there defending them, and throwing gay men under the bus.icon_confused.gif



    Ernest Hemingway Jr, this is exactly the OBAMA policy of "let the states decide." Wake up already.

    The Civil War was fought over states rights, because the south wanted to maintain slavery, which the federal government finally outlawed, nearly a century after the American Revolution.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 18, 2014 5:27 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP Tent!

    Conservaposse response?

    That is Texas for you, intolerant, religious, ultra conservative, breeder land. Formerly the lone star state, it is now officially the giant tea party state.



    You might want to retract at least some of that comment. You are sounding quite a bit like Art_Deco.
    We are talking about Texas so there is no retracting any of this statement because it is the absolute truth. If we were talking about Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina than I would gladly retract some of the words in my statement because those three states will become purple swing states in the not too distant future. I am sure that Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina will all have gay marriage long before Texas makes any serious attempt to legalize it.


    I have family in Texas and they certainly are not:

    intolerant, religious, ultra conservative

    I also am in Texas quite a bit and have never observed that the population is hostile towards gays at all.

    Of course that can all be called "anecdotal" but by making such broad, sweeping, general statements as you have done is unfair, inaccurate and shows a person with a closed mind, a.k.a. Mr. Deco.
    Trust me, I lived in Texas for ten years. It is definitely not a gay friendly state and most likely will never be gay friendly unless federal courts order them to do so.


    Maybe the problem is in your definition of "gay friendly" and that's the issue.

    I have NEVER had ANY problem ANYWHERE in Texas. One of my employers is based there and scores 100% on that "gay friendly companies" survey.

    Houston which, last I checked is in Texas, has a LESBIAN for a Mayor.

    Yet you condemn ALL of Texas and ALL of the people in Texas. I'm just pointing out how out of character that is for you and how much it is something I would expect from the likes of Deco who just in the past few hours said he prefers staying "with his own kind" in one of those insufferable Key West topics of his.
    No my problem is that I lived in that shitty, humid, flatland known as Texas for ten years. Most Texans are only friendly to you if you are their type and that you agree to their way of thinking. If you don't fully conform, you end up being treated like shit and told to go home especially if you are from the northeast and California. I lived in the supposed liberal urban bastion of Austin yet I never heard as much racist and homophobic slurs as I did in that horrendously overrated town. Houston wasn't all that much better. Both Fort Worth and San Antonio are very conservative cities that only tolerated other groups of people. Dallas was just very arrogant, everybody had their noses in the air. Throughout that erstwhile lone star state it appeared to be the same shit. I just got fed up with Texans and their holier than thou attitudes and moved out for good. I also got fed up with seeing bumper stickers with the Texas flag and the word secede written on it. Fine, secede because the US really doesn't need Texas so they can secede and than compete in the global marketplace using their own damned currency. We can admit Puerto Rico as a state in exchange for dumping Texas out of the union so we can still have 50 states.
  • The_Guruburu

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    Jan 18, 2014 5:35 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]roadbikeRob said[/cite]
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 18, 2014 5:38 PM GMT
    The_Guruburu said[quote][cite]roadbikeRob said[/cite]
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob said
    tazzari saidThat great, big ol' GOP
    The state of Texas is their giant ol' tent. Go figure.
  • shutoman

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    Jan 18, 2014 6:14 PM GMT
    southbeach1500This is exactly how President Obama wants it. As he stated at the end of his "evolving" on the issue, this is an issue to be decided state by state.

    If it's good enough for my President, it's good enough for me. Who am I to question him?


    If this is a matter to be decided state by state, why is it being introduced as federal legislation? It is quite the opposite, it is an attempt to allow one state to invalidate the legitimately formed legal relationships of another state: as this can only be done from DC this is a highly centralist move overriding individual states' wish to order marriage as they will.