Man Killed for Texting in a Movie Theater

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    Jan 14, 2014 5:06 PM GMT
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    A retired cop, Curtis Reeves, 71 of Tampa shot and killed one man and wounded his wife with one shot for texting inside a Wesley Chapel, FL theatre. – Facebook picture of shooting victim Chad Oulson and daughter

    A retired cop, Curtis Reeves, 71 of Tampa shot and killed one man and wounded his wife with one shot for texting inside a Wesley Chapel, FL theatre.

    While attending a screening of Lone Survivor, Chad and Nicole Oulson sat in front of Reeves who was accompanied by his wife. Prior to the start of the film an argument began because the Oulsons were texting their 3 yr. old daughter and making noise. A witness stated that Reeves left to get a manager but returned alone. And that’s when the altercation escalated inside the theatre.

    What witnesses saw inside the theatre.
    Charles Cummings, a 68 yr. old Vietnam War veteran in attendance for his birthday, was two seats away from Reeves with his son Alex. They saw and heard the whole thing. Prior to the movie starting but during theatre previews the argument began. When Reeves returned without a manager the argument began again it grew louder. Popcorn was thrown and Reeves drew a .380 pistol and fired. Nicole Oulson put her hand up in an attempt to protect her husband but the round went through her hand and into Chad’s chest.

    Alex Cummings said he heard Chad say, “I can’t believe I got shot.” before he collapsed inside the theatre. A nurse was in attendance and attempted to care for Mr. Oulson while paramedics were in route. Also in the theatre was an off-duty police officer who took Reeves into custody. It’s reported after shooting Oulson, Reeves sat down and placed the gun in his lap.

    Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco said outside the theatre.
    “The back of your hair sticks up as you are running toward this location wondering what is really going on here.”

    Fox news reports, Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a ‘stand your ground’ case
    but decided the criteria did not apply.

    “These two people were brought together by fate today,” Nocco said. “They would have never known each other.”

    “It’s absolutely crazy that it would rise to this level of altercation over someone just texting in a movie theatre,” Nocco said. “But I can tell you right now when this goes out everybody is paranoid, they are scared because a movie theatre should be somewhere safe where people are out there to enjoy themselves. But unfortunately what America has seen over the last couple of years is movie theatres have become dangerous places.”

    No they haven’t! Theatres are not dangerous places. And its idiotic for Sheriff Nocco to say so. Fear has made America a dangerous place. Insecurities, personal or otherwise, have made things more dangerous. The ability to carry weapons and fire them at will with little to no consequence has made things more dangerous. But theatres aren’t the hotbed of violence. Neither are schools or malls or anywhere else that masses may gather. And I refuse to live in a society where I’m paralyzed by fear. Relegated into my home where its the only place I’m safe and warm.

    Charles Cummings said,

    “I can’t believe people would bring a gun to a movie.”

    Neither can I Mr. Cummings. But after the Aurora shooting incident maybe better safe than sorry.

    “I can’t believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn or even a cell phone.” Cummings added.

    And that’s the crazy part. This isn’t some thug teenager with no sense of life’s worth. This was a retired police captain. The guy who was responsible for assembling Tampa’s tactical response team. And there seems to be no sense that the altercation was anything more than an argument about theatre etiquette.

    We may never know what made Reeves draw his weapon and kill inside a crowded movie theatre. But one thing is for sure. As long as people feel threatened and unsafe in public they will carry guns. And as long as people carry guns there will be senseless acts of violence like this one.

    One trigger pull ruined 5 lives. A dead husband. A grieving widow and mother of a toddler who will grow up without a father. A decorated veteran doomed to spend the rest of his life in prison for 2nd degree murder. And the aging spouse he leaves behind. And that doesn’t account for the witnesses inside the theatre that may be scarred a long time if not forever because of one bullet from a gun that didn’t need to be there in the first place. Or the extended families.

    Not me. I refuse to buy into this fear mentality where everyone on the street is a potential enemy. Where the guy behind you in a movie theatre could easily take your life or be the good Samaritan who saves it. So this weekend, I’m going to the movies. For Chad. And the next time you see someone inside a theatre texting during previews remember this story before you lose your temper and go off half cocked over something that isn’t worth fighting over.

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    Jan 14, 2014 8:12 PM GMT
    LOL. Don't text or call during a movie. It's so simple.

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    Jan 14, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    Another "Florida man..." story. Also, there's a previous thread on this (surprised?) - by SCRUFFla, no less: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3630898/
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    Jan 14, 2014 8:38 PM GMT
    xrichx saidLOL. Don't text or call during a movie. It's so simple.

    Theaters should have a gun dispenser in the lobby that you can go use when someone is using their phone.
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    Jan 14, 2014 8:52 PM GMT
    Saw this on Fb. One time during a movie a guy discourteously put his dirty boot up right on to my seat so it's jutting out over my right shoulder. Without hesitation I got up, turned around & started pummeling the asshole with punches. Management came in. I told them what he did to provoke me. They had him thrown out while my friend & I resumed to watch the movie.
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    Jan 14, 2014 9:23 PM GMT
    I have to admit, people texting in theaters make me mad as hell and I pretty much always call them out on it. But damn.....shoot and kill someone? Why are the loosest canons attracted to the police force?
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    Jan 14, 2014 10:03 PM GMT
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    A retired cop, Curtis Reeves, 71 of Tampa shot and killed one man and wounded his wife with one shot for texting inside a Wesley Chapel, FL theatre. – Facebook picture of shooting victim Chad Oulson and daughter

    A retired cop, Curtis Reeves, 71 of Tampa shot and killed one man and wounded his wife with one shot for texting inside a Wesley Chapel, FL theatre.

    While attending a screening of Lone Survivor, Chad and Nicole Oulson sat in front of Reeves who was accompanied by his wife. Prior to the start of the film an argument began because the Oulsons were texting their 3 yr. old daughter and making noise. A witness stated that Reeves left to get a manager but returned alone. And that’s when the altercation escalated inside the theatre.

    What witnesses saw inside the theatre.
    Charles Cummings, a 68 yr. old Vietnam War veteran in attendance for his birthday, was two seats away from Reeves with his son Alex. They saw and heard the whole thing. Prior to the movie starting but during theatre previews the argument began. When Reeves returned without a manager the argument began again it grew louder. Popcorn was thrown and Reeves drew a .380 pistol and fired. Nicole Oulson put her hand up in an attempt to protect her husband but the round went through her hand and into Chad’s chest.

    Alex Cummings said he heard Chad say, “I can’t believe I got shot.” before he collapsed inside the theatre. A nurse was in attendance and attempted to care for Mr. Oulson while paramedics were in route. Also in the theatre was an off-duty police officer who took Reeves into custody. It’s reported after shooting Oulson, Reeves sat down and placed the gun in his lap.

    Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco said outside the theatre.
    “The back of your hair sticks up as you are running toward this location wondering what is really going on here.”

    Fox news reports, Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a ‘stand your ground’ case
    but decided the criteria did not apply.

    “These two people were brought together by fate today,” Nocco said. “They would have never known each other.”

    “It’s absolutely crazy that it would rise to this level of altercation over someone just texting in a movie theatre,” Nocco said. “But I can tell you right now when this goes out everybody is paranoid, they are scared because a movie theatre should be somewhere safe where people are out there to enjoy themselves. But unfortunately what America has seen over the last couple of years is movie theatres have become dangerous places.”

    No they haven’t! Theatres are not dangerous places. And its idiotic for Sheriff Nocco to say so. Fear has made America a dangerous place. Insecurities, personal or otherwise, have made things more dangerous. The ability to carry weapons and fire them at will with little to no consequence has made things more dangerous. But theatres aren’t the hotbed of violence. Neither are schools or malls or anywhere else that masses may gather. And I refuse to live in a society where I’m paralyzed by fear. Relegated into my home where its the only place I’m safe and warm.

    Charles Cummings said,

    “I can’t believe people would bring a gun to a movie.”

    Neither can I Mr. Cummings. But after the Aurora shooting incident maybe better safe than sorry.

    “I can’t believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn or even a cell phone.” Cummings added.

    And that’s the crazy part. This isn’t some thug teenager with no sense of life’s worth. This was a retired police captain. The guy who was responsible for assembling Tampa’s tactical response team. And there seems to be no sense that the altercation was anything more than an argument about theatre etiquette.

    We may never know what made Reeves draw his weapon and kill inside a crowded movie theatre. But one thing is for sure. As long as people feel threatened and unsafe in public they will carry guns. And as long as people carry guns there will be senseless acts of violence like this one.

    One trigger pull ruined 5 lives. A dead husband. A grieving widow and mother of a toddler who will grow up without a father. A decorated veteran doomed to spend the rest of his life in prison for 2nd degree murder. And the aging spouse he leaves behind. And that doesn’t account for the witnesses inside the theatre that may be scarred a long time if not forever because of one bullet from a gun that didn’t need to be there in the first place. Or the extended families.

    Not me. I refuse to buy into this fear mentality where everyone on the street is a potential enemy. Where the guy behind you in a movie theatre could easily take your life or be the good Samaritan who saves it. So this weekend, I’m going to the movies. For Chad. And the next time you see someone inside a theatre texting during previews remember this story before you lose your temper and go off half cocked over something that isn’t worth fighting over.



    The victim got a message from his 3 yr old daughter. So he started to text her back. That's what his wife, who also got shot in the hand, said. Which doesn't add up. Do 3 yr olds know how to read text?.....

    Hey, it could be worst: U could be sitting in the back of a bus with 37 other passengers with ur headphones on minding ur own business & the complete stranger ur sitting next to can pull out a Rambo knife & start stabbing u to death, then decapitate ur head, slice ur body up & start eating u. That's what happened to Canadian Tim McLean in 2008. Goolge it.....
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    Jan 14, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
    Tanner said
    Hey, it could be worst: U could be sitting in the back of a bus with 37 other passengers with ur headphones on minding ur own business & the complete stranger ur sitting next to can pull out a Rambo knife & start stabbing u to death, then decapitate ur head, slice ur body up & start eating u. That's what happened to Canadian Tim McLean in 2008. Goolge it.....


    another reason not to "GO GREYHOUND"

    if i needed one.
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    Jan 14, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
    thadjock said
    Tanner said
    Hey, it could be worst: U could be sitting in the back of a bus with 37 other passengers with ur headphones on minding ur own business & the complete stranger ur sitting next to can pull out a Rambo knife & start stabbing u to death, then decapitate ur head, slice ur body up & start eating u. That's what happened to Canadian Tim McLean in 2008. Goolge it.....


    another reason not to "GO GREYHOUND"

    if i needed one.


    Could u imagine: u sit next to the wrong person at the wrong place, wrong time?! icon_eek.gif .....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jan 14, 2014 11:12 PM GMT
    Read the victim was texting during previews. The movie wasn't even on yet. And he was out with his wife & father on his birthday.
  • thadjock

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    Jan 14, 2014 11:32 PM GMT
    and this just in:

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/new-mexico-school-shooting/?hpt=hp_t2

    this fucking gun insanity is getting out of control.

    I guess the solution is we all get strapped and take our chances in every shoot out on the streets and in the schools and theaters.
  • thadjock

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    Jan 14, 2014 11:47 PM GMT
    pellaz saidthe lawyer representing the shooter said it was self defense as someone threw popcorn at himicon_biggrin.gif


    maybe next time he could load his gun with junior mints.
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    Jan 15, 2014 3:48 AM GMT
    YourName2000 saidI didn't read the whole article, but I'm of mixed emotions on this. Yes, at first glance it does seem a little harsh, but at the same time I'm glad the cops are taking this sort of thing (texting in a movie theater) more seriously. I've certainly asked for people who were bothering me to be shot, but up here in Canada, our cops just laugh (which is just rude).
    The cop in the article was retired and 71 years old. To me, this is a case of entitled old man with a gun versus entitled douchebag with cell phone. Both should know better, but ya know.. Everyone thinks they're right. Someone usually ends up losing.
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:00 AM GMT
    Next week, popcorn will be banned at all theaters.
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:10 AM GMT
    YourName2000 said
    Tanner saidRead the victim was texting during previews. The movie wasn't even on yet. And he was out with his wife & father on his birthday.

    Thank God he was stopped before the movie began then, and any real damage was done. What's with these self-absorbed people though, am I right? Sheesh.


    I could see the discourteousness of texting during a movie, but the 71 yr old retired cop telling him not to text during previews?
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    Jan 16, 2014 4:30 PM GMT
    venue35 saidGun control.

    Coot Control.
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    Jan 16, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
    did they refund the cost of admission as the movie goers ran for their livesicon_question.gif
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    Jan 17, 2014 12:01 AM GMT
    Obviously it's never the gun, it's usually idiots, whack jobs and dopes. In this case it was an elderly loser. If Sarah Palin finally gets her death panels together you can bet your last bitcoin that the idiot elderly class will be the first ones lined up and sent off to die in the vast empty fields of Wasilla, to be mocked and laughed at by the inbred and idiot towns people.
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:38 PM GMT
    Just a normal day under the Second (?) Amendment