Oklahomo's gay marriage ban ruled unconstitutional

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    Jan 14, 2014 11:22 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/14/oklahoma-gay-marriage_n_4598228.html

    "U.S. District Judge Terrence Kern handed down the ruling in a lawsuit filed by two same-sex couples. Kern immediately stayed his ruling pending appeals, meaning gay marriages won't happen in Oklahoma right away."
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    Jan 15, 2014 12:59 AM GMT
    ....too bad the stay way placed....but is a step in the right direction.....wouldn't it be a hoot if OKlaHOma got Same sex Marriages after all of the political posturing about the OK National Guard units implementation of spousal benefits this past fall?...LOL!icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:32 AM GMT
    I wonder how long it will be stayed? Generally, the appeals would be filed fairly quickly ... within a few months at most.
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Jan 15, 2014 1:46 AM GMT
    If the marriage ban can be ruled unconstitutional in Utah and Oklahoma, then why is it NOT ruled that way in ALL states that have bans on same sex marriage??

    I need to e-mail the Department of Justice....again.
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:59 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidI wonder how long it will be ...
    The UT case likely will go to the supreme court and take this case with it. Soonest that could happen is summer.


    Then it will be fall because the SCOTUS is on summer recess from mid June until October
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:40 AM GMT
    Both Oklahoma and Utah are in the 10th circuit where the appeal will be heard. The is some possibility that the cases may be combined there, even though there is one substantive difference: the UT decision pertains to both new in-state marriages and the recognition of out-of state marriages, whereas OK deals only with the former. But even if they don't consolidate the cases, I'm sure the 10th panel that will hear the UT appeal will be very much aware of the other decision in their circuit. It will strengthen our case, for sure.
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:43 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    pellaz said
    freedomisntfree saidI wonder how long it will be ...
    The UT case likely will go to the supreme court and take this case with it. Soonest that could happen is summer.


    Then it will be fall because the SCOTUS is on summer recess from mid June until October


    That's the kind of gig I want!! LOL.

    One blanket ruling that will affect the entire US. That's all I hope for.
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:15 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    freedomisntfree said
    pellaz said
    freedomisntfree saidI wonder how long it will be ...
    The UT case likely will go to the supreme court and take this case with it. Soonest that could happen is summer.


    Then it will be fall because the SCOTUS is on summer recess from mid June until October


    That's the kind of gig I want!! LOL.

    One blanket ruling that will affect the entire US. That's all I hope for.


    They just need to get this resolved so we can get on with life.
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:16 AM GMT
    The rulings in one circuit are not binding on any other. So if two or more circuit courts contradict each other (as they did in the ACA case), the Supreme Court almost certainly has to take the case.
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:18 AM GMT
    Aristoshark saidThe rulings in one circuit are not binding on any other. So if two or more circuit courts contradict each other (as they did in the ACA case), the Supreme Court almost certainly has to take the case.

    If the 10th rules in our favor, there will already exist a contradiction. The 8th Circuit ruled almost 8 years ago that marriage equality is neither a fundamental freedom nor an equal protection issue.
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:19 AM GMT
    Aristoshark saidThe rulings in one circuit are not binding on any other. So if two or more circuit courts contradict each other (as they did in the ACA case), the Supreme Court almost certainly has to take the case.


    I'd think that at the latest ... in the next 12 months it will done and over with.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Jan 15, 2014 12:19 PM GMT
    Marriage is an issue. I want it for everyone but what is more pressing in my state is lack of protections for employees. Being LGBTQ is not a protected class for employment matters.
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    Jan 15, 2014 12:24 PM GMT
    LuckyGuyKC saidMarriage is an issue. I want it for everyone but what is more pressing in my state is lack of protections for employees. Being LGBTQ is not a protected class for employment matters.
    Even with protection you can still get fired. A former employer of mine actually fired me, because I called in 9 hours before my shift telling them I couldn't make it apologizing profusely. This was 2 weeks after I accidentally came out to a coworker.
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:33 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    One blanket ruling that will affect the entire US. That's all I hope for.


    One would think this is a no-brainer that the Supreme Court could just rule on for all states across the board and be done with it. Unfortunately, everything seems to be done ass-backwards in the U.S. The whole gay marriage thing does seem to be accelerating, so hopefully it will be a moot point in a few years.