Ugandan President Blocks Anti-Gay Bill

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    Jan 17, 2014 3:18 PM GMT
    Not sure the reasoning is great, but it's a marginal improvement

    http://world.time.com/2014/01/17/ugandan-president-blocks-anti-gay-bill/

    Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has refused to sign off on a controversial anti-gay bill passed by his parliament, saying there are other ways of dealing with “abnormal” people.

    His comments were made in a letter to the speaker of parliament and Ugandan legislators—dated Dec. 28, after the controversial bill was approved—that was published Friday by Ugandan paper Daily Monitor.

    Museveni claimed a group of MPs forced the bill through parliament after he advised them to wait until the government had studied it, reports the Daily Monitor. The bill, which would punish “aggravated homosexuality” with life imprisonment, has been widely criticized by rights activists both within the country and internationally.

    “The question at the core of the debate of homosexuality is; what do we do with an abnormal person? Do we kill him/her? Do we imprison him/her? Or do we contain him/her?” wrote Museveni.

    The President argued that the best way to deal with the issue was to focus on improving Uganda’s economy and tackle youth unemployment, suggesting that legislation was perhaps not the best way forward: “Even with legislation, they will simply go underground and continue practicing homosexuality or lesbianism for mercenary reasons.”
  • TDSmoove

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    Jan 17, 2014 3:54 PM GMT
    At least it's not a step backwards. We'll see what actually happens in this barbaric Afrikan country.
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    Jan 17, 2014 3:57 PM GMT
    And they wonder why they are third world toilet.
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:03 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidAnd they wonder why they are third world toilet.


    The British

    The IMF

    The world bank

    You're welcome
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:15 PM GMT
    owatteiru said
    Dallasfan824 saidAnd they wonder why they are third world toilet.


    The British

    The IMF

    The world bank

    You're welcome


    Hardly. The British provided a foundation for the rule of law. And while the IMF and the World Bank have I think on net not been positive influences in the developing world, it's the governments of these countries who have used aid money/loans to enrich their own pockets or those of party supporters. If you really want to blame someone you might want to look to socialist influences that actively encouraged these countries to turn away from Western influences like trade and capitalism.

    These places are still developing countries because of self inflicted wounds - not because of long gone external forces... and you'll find consistent with that, you have a few African countries that have advanced far more than others.
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:15 PM GMT
    If I remember correctly Uganda is part of Africa. All except North Africa legally allow child marriage :O 9 yr old married to 40 yr old ickickick.
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:40 PM GMT
    The IMF and the World Bank are the worst things to happen to humanity since the Catholic Church.
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:51 PM GMT
    riddler78 said

    Hardly. The British provided a foundation for the rule of law. And while the IMF and the World Bank have I think on net not been positive influences in the developing world, it's the governments of these countries who have used aid money/loans to enrich their own pockets or those of party supporters. If you really want to blame someone you might want to look to socialist influences that actively encouraged these countries to turn away from Western influences like trade and capitalism.

    These places are still developing countries because of self inflicted wounds - not because of long gone external forces... and you'll find consistent with that, you have a few African countries that have advanced far more than others.


    This false nonsense pulled out of someone's ass.

    1. The British protectorate of Uganda was neither capitalist nor lawful, unless you consider colonialist tyranny, patronage, and overtaxtion of the poor (the Brits were fond of taxing hats and boots) to give to the rich (the Brits patronized local warloads and left the rest of the people with swampland) lawful capitalism. Actually, this corporate communism is exactly what conservative Republicans believe capitalism should look like.

    2. Uganda's current economy is a nationalist market system, it's not socialist. Uganda's Socialist Party, which is on record as protesting vociferously against the country's anti-gay laws, is out of power and favor both.

    Conservatives wonder why they are mocked and ridiculed on this site and in the larger world. They can start by not making up foolishness.

  • MikeW

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    Jan 17, 2014 7:25 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidConservatives wonder why they are mocked and ridiculed on this site and in the larger world. They can start by not making up foolishness.

    That will be difficult given that "creating their own reality" for the rest of us is the hallmark of neoconservative thinking.
  • Destinharbor

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    Jan 17, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidThe IMF and the World Bank are the worst things to happen to humanity since the Catholic Church.

    I started to say "Rediculous" to this statement but decided to just ask why you say that. Do you have any reason or justification for this?
  • OutdoorAdvent...

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    Jan 17, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
    owatteiru said
    Dallasfan824 saidAnd they wonder why they are third world toilet.


    The British

    The IMF

    The world bank

    You're welcome


    Nailed it.

    Exactly.

    Right on.
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    TroyAthlete said
    riddler78 said

    Hardly. The British provided a foundation for the rule of law. And while the IMF and the World Bank have I think on net not been positive influences in the developing world, it's the governments of these countries who have used aid money/loans to enrich their own pockets or those of party supporters. If you really want to blame someone you might want to look to socialist influences that actively encouraged these countries to turn away from Western influences like trade and capitalism.

    These places are still developing countries because of self inflicted wounds - not because of long gone external forces... and you'll find consistent with that, you have a few African countries that have advanced far more than others.


    This false nonsense pulled out of someone's ass.

    1. The British protectorate of Uganda was neither capitalist nor lawful, unless you consider colonialist tyranny, patronage, and overtaxtion of the poor (the Brits were fond of taxing hats and boots) to give to the rich (the Brits patronized local warloads and left the rest of the people with swampland) lawful capitalism. Actually, this corporate communism is exactly what conservative Republicans believe capitalism should look like.

    2. Uganda's current economy is a nationalist market system, it's not socialist. Uganda's Socialist Party, which is on record as protesting vociferously against the country's anti-gay laws, is out of power and favor both.

    Conservatives wonder why they are mocked and ridiculed on this site and in the larger world. They can start by not making up foolishness.



    Having actually lived in Uganda - I can tell you its economy isn't a "nationalist market system". You seem to know rather little of Uganda's past and seem instead to be projecting colonial experience from elsewhere onto Uganda, and you seem to know even less of their economy or economics in general. This is why you get mocked and ridiculed on this site. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 18, 2014 7:29 AM GMT
    Le sigh...

    As with every fucking thread that has anything to do with - or simply mention - Africa, the majority of comments are racist, ignorant revelations of true barbarism.

    As for the comments mentioning the British (genocidal, imperialist, state-capitalist, scum-sucking empire) or the International Misery Fund (IMF), they get points for knowing that there is this mysterious thing called 'history' and facts.

    As for you other cunt-guzzling fools: maybe go to one of these countries... and learn something about how fucking BARBARIC America/Europe are, and have been... for SO very long.

    But that's fine, obviously, we are so "civilized" and "advanced" as we have secreted this political social and economic philosophy of state-capitalism, spread it around the world empire after empire, genocide and war, which we today call "democracy promotion", and now we are leading the world and the human species... to extinction.

    So, just who are the barbarians again?

    Right. Fuck off.
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    Jan 18, 2014 7:30 AM GMT
    owatteiru said
    Dallasfan824 saidAnd they wonder why they are third world toilet.


    The British

    The IMF

    The world bank

    You're welcome

    icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 18, 2014 7:31 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    TroyAthlete said
    riddler78 said

    Hardly. The British provided a foundation for the rule of law. And while the IMF and the World Bank have I think on net not been positive influences in the developing world, it's the governments of these countries who have used aid money/loans to enrich their own pockets or those of party supporters. If you really want to blame someone you might want to look to socialist influences that actively encouraged these countries to turn away from Western influences like trade and capitalism.

    These places are still developing countries because of self inflicted wounds - not because of long gone external forces... and you'll find consistent with that, you have a few African countries that have advanced far more than others.


    This false nonsense pulled out of someone's ass.

    1. The British protectorate of Uganda was neither capitalist nor lawful, unless you consider colonialist tyranny, patronage, and overtaxtion of the poor (the Brits were fond of taxing hats and boots) to give to the rich (the Brits patronized local warloads and left the rest of the people with swampland) lawful capitalism. Actually, this corporate communism is exactly what conservative Republicans believe capitalism should look like.

    2. Uganda's current economy is a nationalist market system, it's not socialist. Uganda's Socialist Party, which is on record as protesting vociferously against the country's anti-gay laws, is out of power and favor both.

    Conservatives wonder why they are mocked and ridiculed on this site and in the larger world. They can start by not making up foolishness.



    Having actually lived in Uganda - I can tell you its economy isn't a "nationalist market system". You seem to know rather little of Uganda's past and seem instead to be projecting colonial experience from elsewhere onto Uganda, and you seem to know even less of their economy or economics in general. This is why you get mocked and ridiculed on this site. icon_wink.gif


    Riddler... in all the years you have been pretending to have knowledge... you would have thought that you might have accidentally stumbled into some by now, but obviously you are impervious to facts that do not fit - or cannot be manipulated to fit - into your deeply narrow, bizarre and archaic world view, wrapped around your Santa Clause-like belief in the "free market" fantasy world.

    Grow up.
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    Jan 18, 2014 7:34 AM GMT
    owatteiru said
    Dallasfan824 saidAnd they wonder why they are third world toilet.


    The British

    The IMF

    The world bank

    You're welcome


    Don't forget America, the number one terrorist nation on earth with its empire of death and genocide that it has spread around this unfortunate little planet for the past 70 years... I believe Americans refer to this process as spreading "democracy" and "freedom" while they engorge themselves on self-serving delusions.
  • michaelctn

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    Jan 18, 2014 2:19 PM GMT
    Snaz saidIf I remember correctly Uganda is part of Africa. All except North Africa legally allow child marriage :O 9 yr old married to 40 yr old ickickick.


    You must be reading too many comic books - South Africa is also in Africa - have you ever been there - no elephants in the streets!!!
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    Jan 18, 2014 4:05 PM GMT
    owatteiru said
    Dallasfan824 saidAnd they wonder why they are third world toilet.


    The British

    The IMF

    The world bank

    You're welcome
    You need to add the NARROW MINDED, BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS from the US.
  • Rugga

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    Jan 18, 2014 4:35 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    TroyAthlete said
    riddler78 said

    Hardly. The British provided a foundation for the rule of law. And while the IMF and the World Bank have I think on net not been positive influences in the developing world, it's the governments of these countries who have used aid money/loans to enrich their own pockets or those of party supporters. If you really want to blame someone you might want to look to socialist influences that actively encouraged these countries to turn away from Western influences like trade and capitalism.

    These places are still developing countries because of self inflicted wounds - not because of long gone external forces... and you'll find consistent with that, you have a few African countries that have advanced far more than others.


    This false nonsense pulled out of someone's ass.

    1. The British protectorate of Uganda was neither capitalist nor lawful, unless you consider colonialist tyranny, patronage, and overtaxtion of the poor (the Brits were fond of taxing hats and boots) to give to the rich (the Brits patronized local warloads and left the rest of the people with swampland) lawful capitalism. Actually, this corporate communism is exactly what conservative Republicans believe capitalism should look like.

    2. Uganda's current economy is a nationalist market system, it's not socialist. Uganda's Socialist Party, which is on record as protesting vociferously against the country's anti-gay laws, is out of power and favor both.

    Conservatives wonder why they are mocked and ridiculed on this site and in the larger world. They can start by not making up foolishness.



    Having actually lived in Uganda - I can tell you its economy isn't a "nationalist market system". You seem to know rather little of Uganda's past and seem instead to be projecting colonial experience from elsewhere onto Uganda, and you seem to know even less of their economy or economics in general. This is why you get mocked and ridiculed on this site. icon_wink.gif


    Hehe Riddler you have an odd (short-sighted?) view of Colonial influence to say the least. You actually speak like a colonist... "We gave/are giving them everything" kind of mentality.
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    Snaz saidIf I remember correctly Uganda is part of Africa. All except North Africa legally allow child marriage :O 9 yr old married to 40 yr old ickickick.


    You must be reading too many comic books - South Africa is also in Africa - have you ever been there - no elephants in the streets!!!


    http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/643343-uganda-among-the-worst-in-child-marriages-study.htm

    I know it happens. I don't understand the relevance of your comment - I don't read comics. I don't care if you've been to Africa. I never said South Africa isn't.

    Have a good day.
  • Apparition

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    Jan 25, 2014 11:33 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    owatteiru said
    Dallasfan824 saidAnd they wonder why they are third world toilet.


    The British

    The IMF

    The world bank

    You're welcome

    icon_lol.gif


    so how does that explain all the other countries that were colonies that are not nearly as bad off? colonialism is a wonderful excuse on paper, but really at some point you have to take the blame for your own culture, especially a few generations past the end of the colonial period. I mean india and africa have the same history and population problems, gained independence at the same time and westerners are looking at their manufacturing, engineering, programming, accounting, and satellite launches migrating there for instance. really, what is africa's excuse? I was watching a documentary on vietnam the other day, there was some small village at the hut level of development, that was devestated by a flood, what little they had, the first thing they rebuilt was this treehouse thing to use as a highschool...when asked why, the respondant said, they couldn't let them fall behind on their calculus studies or they wouldn't get into a good university.

    some cultures are poor and pissed about it, others are poor and happy as can be. if you took any non-african culture to africa or the carribean, the first thing they would do would be make a list of all the practical things to do and get things started...they would not be happy africans...have you ever read a report of someone who went there said..."everyone was cold and unfriendly...they sat around miserable bitching about how bad things were non-stop" they are too happy to change.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jan 31, 2014 3:41 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    TroyAthlete said
    riddler78 said

    Hardly. The British provided a foundation for the rule of law. And while the IMF and the World Bank have I think on net not been positive influences in the developing world, it's the governments of these countries who have used aid money/loans to enrich their own pockets or those of party supporters. If you really want to blame someone you might want to look to socialist influences that actively encouraged these countries to turn away from Western influences like trade and capitalism.

    These places are still developing countries because of self inflicted wounds - not because of long gone external forces... and you'll find consistent with that, you have a few African countries that have advanced far more than others.


    This false nonsense pulled out of someone's ass.

    1. The British protectorate of Uganda was neither capitalist nor lawful, unless you consider colonialist tyranny, patronage, and overtaxtion of the poor (the Brits were fond of taxing hats and boots) to give to the rich (the Brits patronized local warloads and left the rest of the people with swampland) lawful capitalism. Actually, this corporate communism is exactly what conservative Republicans believe capitalism should look like.

    2. Uganda's current economy is a nationalist market system, it's not socialist. Uganda's Socialist Party, which is on record as protesting vociferously against the country's anti-gay laws, is out of power and favor both.

    Conservatives wonder why they are mocked and ridiculed on this site and in the larger world. They can start by not making up foolishness.



    Having actually lived in Uganda - I can tell you its economy isn't a "nationalist market system". You seem to know rather little of Uganda's past and seem instead to be projecting colonial experience from elsewhere onto Uganda, and you seem to know even less of their economy or economics in general. This is why you get mocked and ridiculed on this site. icon_wink.gif


    You get dumber and dumber with every post. Everything I said about Uganda is correct, you've never lived there, and if you have then you're either stupid or just a liar. I'm guessing it's a little of both. Per usual, you present a fact-free bunch nothingness that reveals, again, your limited brainpower and poor relationship with facts and truth.

    I have more friends and more supporters on this site than you. I am disliked by a uniform group: washed-up racist conservatives and anonymous trolls like you, whom nobody takes seriously. I welcome the hatred of these laughingstock degenerates, some of whom I've gotten banned. I enjoy their massively and embarrassingly failed attempts to get to me (how's that campaign to get me banned going? HAHA #fail). Conservatives like you are constantly mocked and ridiculed on this site which is why you weak-willed, cryabby whiners are constantly complaining about how ill-treated you supposedly are. You have earned this contempt.

    Maybe if you guys got a life besides astroturfing RealJock day and night, you wouldn't have to cry all day long about how much people here hate you.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jan 31, 2014 3:42 AM GMT
    wordwarrior saidRiddler... in all the years you have been pretending to have knowledge... you would have thought that you might have accidentally stumbled into some by now, but obviously you are impervious to facts that do not fit - or cannot be manipulated to fit - into your deeply narrow, bizarre and archaic world view, wrapped around your Santa Clause-like belief in the "free market" fantasy world.

    Grow up.


    Or give up the bottle. I'm starting to think RealJock conservatives are just perpetually drunk.

    Morons.