Kordale And Kaleb, Gay Black Fathers, Respond To Twitter Outrage Over Instagram Photos

  • metta

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    Jan 18, 2014 3:56 AM GMT
    Kordale And Kaleb, Gay Black Fathers, Respond To Twitter Outrage Over Instagram Photos


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/17/gay-black-dads-twitter_n_4617226.html

    Beautiful family! icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 18, 2014 4:37 AM GMT
    Good for them.

    The kids will be alright. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 18, 2014 4:38 AM GMT
    dayumm saidGood for them.

    The kids will be alright. icon_biggrin.gif


    I chatted with one of them today on another site. Great family. icon_biggrin.gif
  • WhoDey

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    Jan 18, 2014 2:01 PM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidit's all good if they want to put themselves out there BUT why do they have to put their kids on the site though? they may be able to handle the hate BUT their kids might not. it's as if these guys completely go dumb when it comes to getting attention.


    I understand what you mean. People today like to fully expose them and their kids online, then complain about wanting privacy.

  • Jan 18, 2014 2:25 PM GMT
    I think its great that they have what looks to be a happy and healthy family. Growing up I had a father who lived in the same city, sometimes within walking distance, of me all my life and I may have seen him twice a year. Needless to say I applaud them for not just being a part of their children's lives but actively raising them. Its funny how people will always take the time to judge or give commentary on other peoples lives. I guess its because its a lot easier for them to fix someone else's life than to deal with their own problems.
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    Jan 18, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
    They are such an adorable family! Awesome to see! icon_biggrin.gif
  • wvdave

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    Jan 18, 2014 3:54 PM GMT
    Personally I think its great to see anyone take care of thier children without reapect to skin color, gender, or sexual preference. Seems they engaged with thier kids and not just letting the tv or game system be the parent.
    Kudos to both of them!
  • BillandChuck

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    Jan 18, 2014 10:46 PM GMT
    Good for them! Great looking family, and they'll be part of the next, better generation, which diminishes the stupidity the bigots and homophobes currently comprise among the population.
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    Jan 18, 2014 11:03 PM GMT
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidit's all good if they want to put themselves out there BUT why do they have to put their kids on the site though? they may be able to handle the hate BUT their kids might not. it's as if these guys completely go dumb when it comes to getting attention.


    Everyone posts pictures of their kids online. Straight and gay. I didn't see a rule that said they can't.


    Totally agree. EVERY parent at my job has pictures and videos with their kids be it at a game or the park or on a trip. And I receive a billion of those photo postcards from my married friends of them and their kids wishing me a happy holiday during Christmas.
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    Jan 18, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
    I fail to see what is so controversial about their photos. Is it because the men are shirtless? Men are shirtless all the time. Why is this such a big deal?
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    Jan 19, 2014 3:36 AM GMT
    Myol said
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidit's all good if they want to put themselves out there BUT why do they have to put their kids on the site though? they may be able to handle the hate BUT their kids might not. it's as if these guys completely go dumb when it comes to getting attention.


    Everyone posts pictures of their kids online. Straight and gay. I didn't see a rule that said they can't.


    Totally agree. EVERY parent at my job has pictures and videos with their kids be it at a game or the park or on a trip. And I receive a billion of those photo postcards from my married friends of them and their kids wishing me a happy holiday during Christmas.


    Agreed. Man, you should see my facebook, lol!
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    Jan 19, 2014 3:44 AM GMT
    I follow them on fb. Good looking family icon_smile.gif
  • Amelorn

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    Jan 19, 2014 3:48 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI fail to see what is so controversial about their photos. Is it because the men are shirtless? Men are shirtless all the time. Why is this such a big deal?


    IS this where Art Deco comes in to wax poetic on the good old days of rampant male nudity? icon_wink.gif

    In all seriousness, I don't get the furore. Then again, I can imagine the blood pressure of "Middle Americans with Computers" at seeing a gay, black, tattooed couple shirtless with children.
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    Jan 19, 2014 4:56 AM GMT
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    Myol said
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidit's all good if they want to put themselves out there BUT why do they have to put their kids on the site though? they may be able to handle the hate BUT their kids might not. it's as if these guys completely go dumb when it comes to getting attention.


    Everyone posts pictures of their kids online. Straight and gay. I didn't see a rule that said they can't.


    Totally agree. EVERY parent at my job has pictures and videos with their kids be it at a game or the park or on a trip. And I receive a billion of those photo postcards from my married friends of them and their kids wishing me a happy holiday during Christmas.


    there's a difference between showing a few people at your job and the whole entire world which is for the most part hostile towards gay people.


    So they should live their lives differently because they are gay? And other gays do it everyday too. If they wanna post their families they can. Part of the movement is being allowed to do exactly what we want and show straights we're no different from them.


    ∆ Exactly. You don't live your life according to the expectations of strangers. And what kind of role models would they be for their children if they kept their family in the closet?
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    Jan 19, 2014 5:38 AM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet said it's as if these guys people completely go dumb when it comes to getting attention.
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    Jan 19, 2014 5:43 AM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    Scruffypup said
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    Myol said
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidit's all good if they want to put themselves out there BUT why do they have to put their kids on the site though? they may be able to handle the hate BUT their kids might not. it's as if these guys completely go dumb when it comes to getting attention.


    Everyone posts pictures of their kids online. Straight and gay. I didn't see a rule that said they can't.


    Totally agree. EVERY parent at my job has pictures and videos with their kids be it at a game or the park or on a trip. And I receive a billion of those photo postcards from my married friends of them and their kids wishing me a happy holiday during Christmas.


    there's a difference between showing a few people at your job and the whole entire world which is for the most part hostile towards gay people.


    So they should live their lives differently because they are gay? And other gays do it everyday too. If they wanna post their families they can. Part of the movement is being allowed to do exactly what we want and show straights we're no different from them.


    ∆ Exactly. You don't live your life according to the expectations of strangers. And what kind of role models would they be for their children if they kept their family in the closet?


    why do those children, who are too young to understand homophobia and hate, of those guys have to be exposed to the world's ignorance because their parents want to get attention all over tumblr or whatever social networker photography website? have they ever thought about how the other kids in school would treat them if they found out that their parents were gay since we know how kids have access to the internet, cyberbullying and all this other crap? my guess is no. this has nothing to do with being proud of being gay or whatever. it's about basically protecting those that can't defend themselves such as the kids by putting them all over the world wide web for everyone to see where they know their faces, their names, where they are located and etc. only reason why i could think someone would do such a thing is if they wanted attention or the whole world to see them where it never occurred to them that this shit could come back to get them.

    if they as a couple want to do that shit, then fine but i don't agree with this whole entire idea of these gay couples with kids feeling the need to put their children out there on the internet knowing that them and their kids will be harassed. as i said, they might be able to handle it. their kids might not.



    Straight families post their photos online all the time. Youtube videos and a million different media sites. Why should they have to hide who they are because of some ignorant assholes?
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    Jan 19, 2014 4:57 PM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    Scruffypup said
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    Scruffypup said
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    Myol said
    ViciousRumor said
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidit's all good if they want to put themselves out there BUT why do they have to put their kids on the site though? they may be able to handle the hate BUT their kids might not. it's as if these guys completely go dumb when it comes to getting attention.


    Everyone posts pictures of their kids online. Straight and gay. I didn't see a rule that said they can't.


    Totally agree. EVERY parent at my job has pictures and videos with their kids be it at a game or the park or on a trip. And I receive a billion of those photo postcards from my married friends of them and their kids wishing me a happy holiday during Christmas.


    there's a difference between showing a few people at your job and the whole entire world which is for the most part hostile towards gay people.


    So they should live their lives differently because they are gay? And other gays do it everyday too. If they wanna post their families they can. Part of the movement is being allowed to do exactly what we want and show straights we're no different from them.


    ∆ Exactly. You don't live your life according to the expectations of strangers. And what kind of role models would they be for their children if they kept their family in the closet?


    why do those children, who are too young to understand homophobia and hate, of those guys have to be exposed to the world's ignorance because their parents want to get attention all over tumblr or whatever social networker photography website? have they ever thought about how the other kids in school would treat them if they found out that their parents were gay since we know how kids have access to the internet, cyberbullying and all this other crap? my guess is no. this has nothing to do with being proud of being gay or whatever. it's about basically protecting those that can't defend themselves such as the kids by putting them all over the world wide web for everyone to see where they know their faces, their names, where they are located and etc. only reason why i could think someone would do such a thing is if they wanted attention or the whole world to see them where it never occurred to them that this shit could come back to get them.

    if they as a couple want to do that shit, then fine but i don't agree with this whole entire idea of these gay couples with kids feeling the need to put their children out there on the internet knowing that them and their kids will be harassed. as i said, they might be able to handle it. their kids might not.



    Straight families post their photos online all the time. Youtube videos and a million different media sites. Why should they have to hide who they are because of some ignorant assholes?


    the world isn't heterophobic. if that was the case, then the same thing would apply. that's just the way it is. homophobia is still rampant in society and unfortunately, we have to be mindful of it as folks are that fucked up to act out their ignorance. it's the parents job to protect their children away from harm as the kids cannot defend themselves. that may be having to avoid putting their children out there for the whole world to see if it means to keep them safe. by exposing them out there, they may be winning hearts and applauses but they're also putting them in risk of harm. they can't 100 percent protect them as they'll be seen in public, going around town and etc as a family. they're only making it more of an issue by letting the entire world know about them when they don't even need to do that knowing that how homophobic the world is. what is the purpose? it shouldn't have to be that way to begin with BUT it's better to be safe than sorry.


    Those kids have every right to grow up not being ashamed of their family. And that is more important than the fear of homophobia, in my opinion.
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    Jan 19, 2014 5:10 PM GMT
    Great family! I dont see any controversy there, everyone looks normal and happy.
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    Jan 19, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    If kids are theoretically getting bullied in school, it's because the bullies are finding out the kids have gay parents, period. Whether the parents are shirtless on Twitter doing their hair, or bringing cupcakes to the classroom in top hat and tie, it's the same effect to the theoretical bullies.

    So unless, for the sake of some false sense of "convenience," we're expecting one of the parents to hide in a closet until the kids get through college, let them live, and share their lives, how they choose to.
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    Myol saidThose kids have every right to grow up not being ashamed of their family. And that is more important than the fear of homophobia, in my opinion.

    I agree. As a society we yearn for parents that are active in their children's lives, who act as positive role models for their children, who expose their children to all aspects of what they will face in the future (good and bad) and educate them about more than just what they'll see at home.

    How anyone can look at the faces of the girls in those photos, the smiles, the joy and what the dads are doing as parents for the girls and object is beyond me. This is what we hope for all children and yet because they're gay or because they're gay and black there's some reason this is wrong? We have children standing in front of church congregations begging to be loved and we find it appalling and then we have 3 girls being shown so much love that it spills over in their smiles and some find it appalling?

    Haters will always hate. Love these guys for what they're doing. 3 kids is a LOT and if you've not raised kids you really don't know how much work, time and selflessness it really takes. Kudos for them! YAY!
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    Jan 19, 2014 5:53 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI fail to see what is so controversial about their photos. Is it because the men are shirtless? Men are shirtless all the time. Why is this such a big deal?

    I read one comment about them being 'topless' in the picture so they must have been more interested in their own image than that of the children...OMG...seriously?

    I'm sure there were times I did my daughter's hair without a shirt on. Is that all people see when they looked at the pictures of this family?

    Not only that but if you've ever done a young girl's hair, OMG it can be so tangled it's unbelievable! Not that easy! Just an amazing couple of guys!
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    dayumm saidIf kids are theoretically getting bullied in school, it's because the bullies are finding out the kids have gay parents, period. Whether the parents are shirtless on Twitter doing their hair, or bringing cupcakes to the classroom in top hat and tie, it's the same effect to the theoretical bullies.

    So unless, for the sake of some false sense of "convenience," we're expecting one of the parents to hide in a closet until the kids get through college, let them live, and share their lives, how they choose to.


    i like how some of you posters are completely overlooking the point that these guys and their children are getting harassed and ridiculed on twitter simply for being gay.


    And they're getting praise too. They're getting ridiculed by people who wish they had a decimal of the praise they're getting. Welcome to social media.

    The kids will be alright.
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    Jan 19, 2014 6:00 PM GMT
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    dayumm said
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    dayumm saidIf kids are theoretically getting bullied in school, it's because the bullies are finding out the kids have gay parents, period. Whether the parents are shirtless on Twitter doing their hair, or bringing cupcakes to the classroom in top hat and tie, it's the same effect to the theoretical bullies.

    So unless, for the sake of some false sense of "convenience," we're expecting one of the parents to hide in a closet until the kids get through college, let them live, and share their lives, how they choose to.


    i like how some of you posters are completely overlooking the point that these guys and their children are getting harassed and ridiculed on twitter simply for being gay.


    And they're getting praise too. They're getting ridiculed by people who wish they had a decimal of the praise they're getting. Welcome to social media.

    The kids will be alright.


    what about offline though? the people that are on facebook, twitter, instagram and etc are out there in the world too like how they are.


    The kids get flak offline just like online. Their parents will already be there to help them deal with BOTH.
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    ikilledcaptainplanet saidi like how some of you posters are completely overlooking the point that these guys and their children are getting harassed and ridiculed on twitter simply for being gay.

    Oh well now I see your point. Yes, they should be a closeted family, not exposing their children (do you call them children if you're gay parents or would that be over the top for the kids too?) to ridicule.

    How about this, why don't they act like every other family in America and then seize the moment to teach their children about bigotry and hatred that they're going to face in this world. Rather than shelter them, why not teach them right from wrong and ways they can defend themselves by sharing acceptance and rejecting those who would hate. These kids are strong and they have parents who appear to be very in tune with them. I'm quite certain that they won't be facing anything more than they can handle and they won't be facing it alone. I suspect that these girls dads are going to be right there with them the whole way.
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    Jan 19, 2014 6:04 PM GMT
    Wondering how young children in Nigeria feel right now about gay men being arrested for being gay ?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/14/nigeria-gay-arrests_n_4595124.html

    there are far worse things happening in the world today to gay people, like what's happening in Russia too - than to worry about kids here who have our American President and a whole political party in support of gay marriage now to reflect upon. icon_idea.gif
    And the fact that gay people are equal in the military now too in the united states - just as blacks got equal rights in the military in the 1950's before getting full civil rights in the 1960's

    Good parents can teach their children about history and the world around us while preparing them for life too -
    We should all be proud and grateful to these young American black men willing to put themselves and their family on the front line of this struggle for progress in the world.