Been watching Doco OUTRAGE.

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    Jan 18, 2014 8:55 PM GMT
    Hmmmmmmmm the complexity of bisexuality.

    One of the things that stuck out to me thus fare, is you have a married conservative Bisexual man, living a heterosexual lifestyle with wife and kids. Yet people want to label them as gay, when they are clearly nothing of the sort, even if they COME OUT latter in life and decide to live with that boyfriend instead of the wife and kids, they are still a bisexual, now in a homosexual relationship.

    Or self loathing, because they identify with their straight half more than they do their same sex attraction side; the confusions of bisexuality.

    Yes life does seem less complex being born a Bonafide Homosexual and not a bisexual.

    But the blinding hate many of theses men face from sections of the GLBT communities. Just because they bat for both teams, yet identify more with being straight, and the straight world, thus in work, their professional lives, they may not support same sex marriage. Dose this make them self loathing?
    Do they owe you their vote?
    Do they owe you anything?

    Now even a Bonafide homosexual can vote conservative, and this does not make them self loathing, they just have a different political agenda to brothers who vote for the left.

    But Oh my the complexity's of being a bisexual. yet there are those who want to just shove us all under the one banner and call us all gay, when gay, when homosexual and bisexual are not one of the same, there are differences; AND HOW. yes there are differences in us Bonafide homosexuals too, but we are bonded by the one common link, that we were not born to bat for both teams, we only have eyes for other men.
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    Jan 18, 2014 9:02 PM GMT
    I myself being born a Bonafide Homosexual, do not see being bi a bad thing. I just see many differences between a bisexual half brother who has bated for both teams, than a do a brother who has only ever batted for the one.

    Do I feel as a Bonafide Homosexual, that bisexual politician in a seat of power owe me something; No I do not. Because my political agenda may be different to theirs, and my sexuality does not dictate how I vote, as I put my country before self.
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    Jan 18, 2014 9:15 PM GMT
    venue35 saidYou could have added this in MY thread...
    Just saying...


    I did see a thread on outrage here art RJ, that promoted me to look the Doco up. I did come back to find that said thread, to make a comment[s] but could not find it, thus just started one of my own.

    Otherwise would of been more than happy to of added to yours.
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    Jan 18, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
    Jim McGreevy you were not born a gay American, but a bisexual one; people just want to shove you under the gay banner for their own political gain. I feel someone felt a need to bring your life down for their own political gain. Who not only ruined your life but the lives-of your ex wife and little girl too.

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    Jan 18, 2014 9:39 PM GMT
    I ponder would I look at things any differently, if one had of been born an American, and not a Aussieicon_question.gif
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    Jan 18, 2014 10:03 PM GMT
    If everyone was to come out, we would win.

    Would we?

    We still are not, nor would be, one. With one thought/agenda.

    We are many with different views and wants of and from life. Thus if we where all to come out, we still would not all stand under the one banner with all the same rights.
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    Jan 20, 2014 7:48 PM GMT
    ViciousRumor saidNo I think in many cases these men are gay. Half of the time they are either single or in marriages where they have boyfriends on the side. Gay men have been pretending to be straight for centuries. And if these men come out as gay I'm site they know for sure who they are. So calling them bisexual isn't accurate.


    you seem to insinuate bi is a bad thing, and this excuses the actions of bisexuals until they know what they are doing. To me sexuality is innate, and this can and does allow us to make choices. MRS Jim McGreevy was to say her husband was to make choices. She did not see why that should of hurt her or her daughter in the process from the choices he made as a young man; but it did.

    Not saying there has never been a Bonafide Homosexual who never pretended to be straight. but they also know this was a choice, forced or not. But........they would never ever follow though on any sexual interaction, because we just are not born that way, or to do such things as to even get it up.

    But what do you call someone who has batted for both teams, yet never had a wife and always been single rooting around; even on the down low. Or a man who took a wife, and still had the down low time or not until they were single again. Even living as straight, people want to call them gay. But they are not just as they are not Boafide Homosexuals. Not saying bi is a bad thing.

    But then.....Gay does mean many things now days and bi's do stand under the banner of gay. There are bis who fly the Bisexual Pride Flag at parades, and bi's who walk under the American flat with wife in hand at conventions.

    Imagine the outcry if a politician was to be found out to be a Bonafide Homosexual, never been with a women and will never take a wife. This will give him no hope to voters, as it would a Bi for being able to turn straight; take a wife and have children/child, and be an American family. But then the world is not ready for us Bonafide Homosexuals to stand tall and proud either.
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    Jan 21, 2014 8:21 PM GMT
    I do find it amusing that people promote that if you all come out of the closet the war would be over. That's overlooking the fact we would not all be standing under the one banner. many would still stand beside their religions, and affiliations. That may not be pro gay. We would still have left and right voters and politicians, and bi men with wives and kids.