Facebook Is About to Lose 80% of Its Users, Study Says

  • metta

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    Jan 22, 2014 5:08 PM GMT
    Facebook Is About to Lose 80% of Its Users, Study Says

    http://business.time.com/2014/01/21/facebook-is-about-to-lose-80-of-its-users-study-says/

    Study Here:

    http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.4208v1.pdf




    I doubt this will happen to this extent unless there is something better to replace it.
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    Jan 22, 2014 5:35 PM GMT
    A lot of younger people were fleeing Faceache, as soon as their grannies started 'liking' them. Even successful websites tend to be 'here today, gone tomorrow', with a few obvious exceptions. No one can stay trendy forever.

    I really cannot understand those website creators who get offered $100 million for their site and turn it down, only to find the site is valued at $5 million a couple of years later.
  • Chainers

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    Jan 22, 2014 5:38 PM GMT
    metta8 saidFacebook Is About to Lose 80% of Its Users, Study Says

    http://business.time.com/2014/01/21/facebook-is-about-to-lose-80-of-its-users-study-says/

    Study Here:

    http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.4208v1.pdf




    I doubt this will happen to this extent unless there is something better to replace it.


    I do have to question the timeline because it does not seem to be going away in a year, but what the study says is correct. As people stop going to facebook and use it less, the site will lose users on an exponential basis. This is because users create the content to entertain and attract users. Without people posting, people will not go on to facebook to post.

    Also, for some people Facebook is just a way to message others. There will always be another way to message and if it just becomes a messaging service then it will not be able to get ad revenue. Overall, I think Facebook is WAY overvalued on the stock market and they need to work in order to create a sustainable business model.
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    Jan 22, 2014 5:54 PM GMT
    Who here DOESN'T use Facebook or Twitter? I myself have no interest in either of them.
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    Jan 22, 2014 6:19 PM GMT
    I totally believe this study is true. I'm meeting more and more people who "don't do Facebook." And personally, I've been very disillusioned with it for quite some time now. Facebook was supposed to bring us closer, but in fact, it does the opposite. Once someone becomes a Facebook friend, I know I won't be getting anymore emails from them, and the daily chats on the phone will drop down to a couple times a week. No one bothers to check in and see how I'm doing anymore because they feel like they already know everything about my life because it's on Facebook - Wrong. You can't share your innermost feelings on the World Wide Web, or at least I can't. So we tend to put an inappropriate amount of emotion into political rants, raves or pet peeves so we can feel like we're expressing ourselves - but we're not. It's pseudo intimacy, and that can only sustain us for so long.

    Real connections are made in the real world. Think of your fondest memories....are any of them of sitting in front of your computer? Or walking in a zombie state while frantically typing on your phone? Of course not. My best memories are sitting in a chair on the beach, listening to the sound of the waves crashing and the seagulls overhead, and reaching over to hold my partner's hand. Or driving down the road and singing our favorite song together. THESE are the things that bring us closer. Are you still doing these things as much as you used to?

    I love silly cat videos as much as the next guy, and the chances are good that I'll post one myself in the very near future, but how much is this interfering with living our lives in the real world? Chances are.....a lot. But why? In part, I think it's because it's risky to interact with people in person. Risky to our feelings that is. It hurts to be misunderstood, to have our hearts broken or to hear unexpected criticism. If people hurt our feelings on Facebook, we can just "unfriend" them and never have to hear from them again. But we also miss out on all the incredibly positive emotions too don't we? I think we've forgotten how to handle disappointment in our society, so we've chosen something that numbs us from that hurt while still providing us with a taste of that connection.....social media.

    I called a friend of mine last year whom I haven't talked to in a while. He said "is everything alright?" When I said yes, his reply was "so why are you calling me? No one uses the phone anymore except old ladies." It really hurt my feelings, because I was calling because I wanted to hear his voice, rather than see his impersonal status updates or text messages. I haven't called him since. Is this what we've become? Just letters and images on a screen? Am I now a freak because I like to hear the emotion in a friend's voice when I'm speaking with them?

    No one on their death bed has ever said "I wish I had spent more time on Facebook."
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    Jan 22, 2014 6:56 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI totally believe this study is true. I'm meeting more and more people who "don't do Facebook." And personally, I've been very disillusioned with it for quite some time now. Facebook was supposed to bring us closer, but in fact, it does the opposite. Once someone becomes a Facebook friend, I know I won't be getting anymore emails from them, and the daily chats on the phone will drop down to a couple times a week. No one bothers to check in and see how I'm doing anymore because they feel like they already know everything about my life because it's on Facebook - Wrong. You can't share your innermost feelings on the World Wide Web, or at least I can't. So we tend to put an inappropriate amount of emotion into political rants, raves or pet peeves so we can feel like we're expressing ourselves - but we're not. It's pseudo intimacy, and that can only sustain us for so long.

    Real connections are made in the real world. Think of your fondest memories....are any of them of sitting in front of your computer? Or walking in a zombie state while frantically typing on your phone? Of course not. My best memories are sitting in a chair on the beach, listening to the sound of the waves crashing and the seagulls overhead, and reaching over to hold my partner's hand. Or driving down the road and singing our favorite song together. THESE are the things that bring us closer. Are you still doing these things as much as you used to?

    I love silly cat videos as much as the next guy, and the chances are good that I'll post one myself in the very near future, but how much is this interfering with living our lives in the real world? Chances are.....a lot. But why? In part, I think it's because it's risky to interact with people in person. Risky to our feelings that is. It hurts to be misunderstood, to have our hearts broken or to hear unexpected criticism. If people hurt our feelings on Facebook, we can just "unfriend" them and never have to hear from them again. But we also miss out on all the incredibly positive emotions too don't we? I think we've forgotten how to handle disappointment in our society, so we've chosen something that numbs us from that hurt while still providing us with a taste of that connection.....social media.

    I called a friend of mine last year whom I haven't talked to in a while. He said "is everything alright?" When I said yes, his reply was "so why are you calling me? No one uses the phone anymore except old ladies." It really hurt my feelings, because I was calling because I wanted to hear his voice, rather than see his impersonal status updates or text messages. I haven't called him since. Is this what we've become? Just letters and images on a screen? Am I now a freak because I like to hear the emotion in a friend's voice when I'm speaking with them?

    No one on their death bed has ever said "I wish I had spent more time on Facebook."


    Yeah, FB is getting on my nerves, I only originally joined so I could keep in touch with family & friends from out of state as they were all on it already when I joined end of 2010, there is a couple times I disabled my account for 2 weeks at a time, but then I started getting into liking music, movies and following people, I have never played any of those stupid games even though I get bombarded with 'invites' to play, while I see some have hundreds or even thousands, I keep my 'friends' list to a minimum, real friends, how could anyone know that many people unless your a local celebrity or something, just friending somebody that is a stranger because you like the same page, is foreign to me. I like many DJ's but some of them I don't know personally, I would feel weird asking to be FB friends

    So now, even with real family, I don't talk too much on the phone with them because of FB icon_mad.gif

  • thadjock

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    Jan 22, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
    well the reality is : in the information economy, if you're not the NEW thing, you're the OLD thing.

    and anything that trends has a shelf life. none of these social networking sites have any business model other than advertising/micro marketing. when your users head for the door, you're done.

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    Jan 22, 2014 8:37 PM GMT
    Very early in the facebook game I received an invite to join which struck me odd particularly because it had listed the names of a bunch of kids I'd gone to school with as a child in my hometown.

    I was floored they'd made those connections. Particularly since the invitation came from the facebook page of my 85-year-old father.

    I knew then it wasn't for me.
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    Jan 22, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
    I would never have a Facebook profile and I think people who do are generally creepy, needy and self promoting dorks.
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    Jan 22, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidI would never have a Facebook profile and I think people who do are generally creepy, needy and self promoting dorks.


    What's your excuse? icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 22, 2014 9:23 PM GMT
    Plus the constant privacy settings changes and rules changes. I don't have time to deal with it or keep up with it anymore. I'm not going to delete my profile, but I've done nothing with it in the last year or so.
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    Jan 23, 2014 2:26 AM GMT
    thadjock saidwell the reality is : in the information economy, if you're not the NEW thing, you're the OLD thing.

    and anything that trends has a shelf life. none of these social networking sites have any business model other than advertising/micro marketing. when your users head for the door, you're done.



    Is this why I have avoided, like the plague, creating a LinkedIn profile? I mean the pressure to 'conform' is just enormous! Where you have worked and lived your entire life is on display for the entire world to see, past employers, friends, enemies, good and bad. And who is complaining about privacy? Oh, I see, 'they' get YOU to volunteer your privacy, I still have some free will left icon_rolleyes.gif

    FB privacy settings are a big issue, but yet people volunteer their privacy on LinkedIn, I don't get it. icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 23, 2014 4:07 AM GMT
    scruffLA said
    Is this why I have avoided, like the plague, creating a LinkedIn profile? I mean the pressure to 'conform' is just enormous! Where you have worked and lived your entire life is on display for the entire world to see, past employers, friends, enemies, good and bad. And who is complaining about privacy? Oh, I see, 'they' get YOU to volunteer your privacy, I still have some free will left icon_rolleyes.gif

    FB privacy settings are a big issue, but yet people volunteer their privacy on LinkedIn, I don't get it. icon_confused.gif


    good for u man, i get like 15 invites to linkedin a week. some from people i barely know. this pretty much sums it up: haha

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    thadjock said
    scruffLA said
    Is this why I have avoided, like the plague, creating a LinkedIn profile? I mean the pressure to 'conform' is just enormous! Where you have worked and lived your entire life is on display for the entire world to see, past employers, friends, enemies, good and bad. And who is complaining about privacy? Oh, I see, 'they' get YOU to volunteer your privacy, I still have some free will left icon_rolleyes.gif

    FB privacy settings are a big issue, but yet people volunteer their privacy on LinkedIn, I don't get it. icon_confused.gif


    good for u man, i get like 15 invites to linkedin a week. some from people i barely know. this pretty much sums it up: haha




    um, that's scary & Alec Baldwin playing a sociopath icon_lol.gif and people wonder why catfishing is so popular icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 23, 2014 5:21 AM GMT
    scruffLA said
    um, that's scary & Alec Baldwin playing a sociopath icon_lol.gif and people wonder why catfishing is so popular icon_confused.gif


    he was just mocking a business rival for being on LinkedIn, i thought it was funny
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    Jan 23, 2014 7:49 AM GMT
    Deleted that a long time ago
  • thadjock

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    Jan 23, 2014 5:49 PM GMT
    venue35 said It's very narcissistic and people love to show off using it.


    that can be said of RJ too.

    i think the entire internet is narcissistic.
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    Jan 23, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
    venue35 saidI think facebook is just used to boost ones social status. It's very narcissistic and people love to show off using it.

    Interesting that you say that, because it's not my experience. No one on my feed does any "humblebragging" or anything like it. Mostly we either trade political articles or make a lot of jokes.
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    Jan 23, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI totally believe this study is true. I'm meeting more and more people who "don't do Facebook." And personally, I've been very disillusioned with it for quite some time now. Facebook was supposed to bring us closer, but in fact, it does the opposite. Once someone becomes a Facebook friend, I know I won't be getting anymore emails from them, and the daily chats on the phone will drop down to a couple times a week. No one bothers to check in and see how I'm doing anymore because they feel like they already know everything about my life because it's on Facebook - Wrong. You can't share your innermost feelings on the World Wide Web, or at least I can't. So we tend to put an inappropriate amount of emotion into political rants, raves or pet peeves so we can feel like we're expressing ourselves - but we're not. It's pseudo intimacy, and that can only sustain us for so long.

    Real connections are made in the real world. Think of your fondest memories....are any of them of sitting in front of your computer? Or walking in a zombie state while frantically typing on your phone? Of course not. My best memories are sitting in a chair on the beach, listening to the sound of the waves crashing and the seagulls overhead, and reaching over to hold my partner's hand. Or driving down the road and singing our favorite song together. THESE are the things that bring us closer. Are you still doing these things as much as you used to?

    I love silly cat videos as much as the next guy, and the chances are good that I'll post one myself in the very near future, but how much is this interfering with living our lives in the real world? Chances are.....a lot. But why? In part, I think it's because it's risky to interact with people in person. Risky to our feelings that is. It hurts to be misunderstood, to have our hearts broken or to hear unexpected criticism. If people hurt our feelings on Facebook, we can just "unfriend" them and never have to hear from them again. But we also miss out on all the incredibly positive emotions too don't we? I think we've forgotten how to handle disappointment in our society, so we've chosen something that numbs us from that hurt while still providing us with a taste of that connection.....social media.

    I called a friend of mine last year whom I haven't talked to in a while. He said "is everything alright?" When I said yes, his reply was "so why are you calling me? No one uses the phone anymore except old ladies." It really hurt my feelings, because I was calling because I wanted to hear his voice, rather than see his impersonal status updates or text messages. I haven't called him since. Is this what we've become? Just letters and images on a screen? Am I now a freak because I like to hear the emotion in a friend's voice when I'm speaking with them?

    No one on their death bed has ever said "I wish I had spent more time on Facebook."

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  • kew1

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    Jan 23, 2014 8:52 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidPlus the constant privacy settings changes and rules changes. I don't have time to deal with it or keep up with it anymore. I'm not going to delete my profile, but I've done nothing with it in the last year or so.


    I've no idea how to set the privacy options so just lied about some things (birthday for example). My profile is nearly completely empty, and I rarely post.

    I still want to know how they suggested one friend, I did know him but had no friends in common on fb, nor any interests. We'd met on vacation but hadn't kept in touch for 8 years.