I wanna live in America :(

  • Nayro

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    Dec 15, 2008 9:57 PM GMT
    Hey guys

    Have u ever been wanting to live somewhere else than in America?
    I am Dutch and I would love to live in America. Ive been there a couple
    of times and also to Canada but I just have this thing with America.
    Everything is so huge there. And cheap, compared to Europe. When I
    was in America and Canada every1 said that going to Europe was like their biggest wish. Im pretty sure I will move to America some day. (also most guys from this site live there icon_razz.gif) Don't get me wrong I like Holland and Europe too. The biggest advantage of living here is that theres a totally different culture like 200 miles away. Thats great. And theres a lot of history here too. Anyway what do you think. Would u ever migrate out of USA?
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:05 PM GMT
    I would like to live in Europe for a while in order to fluently learn another language...prolly German. If I were filthy rich, I would live in several countries to learn their languages. However, I doubt I would ever want to leave America forever and drop my american citizenship.....hell, I cant imagine being anything other than a Virginian.
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:10 PM GMT
    I lived in Poland for the first almost 13 years of my life. Now I feel good in America. I think the schools are just so much better-- some might think it is crap, but if they saw how some schools are in Poland they would appreciate all the opportunities offered by high school and college.
  • Nayro

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    Dec 15, 2008 10:19 PM GMT
    ow yeah, ur totally right. Holland has a SUPERgood education system and im happy to live here and that i grew up here. I can speak Dutch, English German and i can manage a bit in French. Trust me thats really cool icon_razz.gif Im totally into languages. Lots of americans only know English. More are learning spanish now though arent they? Dunno its just something about America that attracts me.... Even though in some aspects Holland is more progressive than America, in other things its the other way around....
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:21 PM GMT
    Niceguy1989 saidow yeah, ur totally right. Holland has a SUPERgood education system and im happy to live here and that i grew up here. I can speak Dutch, English German and i can manage a bit in French. Trust me thats really cool icon_razz.gif Im totally into languages. Lots of americans only know English. More are learning spanish now though arent they? Dunno its just something about America that attracts me.... Even though in some aspects Holland is more progressive than America, in other things its the other way around....

    In what ways is it "the other way around"?
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:27 PM GMT
    I wanna move to Spain or Canada!
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:28 PM GMT
    I lived in Europe growing up (W. Germany, France, Italy) and would love to become an ExPat again.

    America is great with all the opportunities - it's just that religion and bigots seem to have too much control here - far more than our founding father's ever wanted. Until sanity returns (or somewhat returns), I'll keep looking for the first opportunity to move overseas (or to my beloved Montreal)

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    Dec 15, 2008 10:31 PM GMT
    Niceguy1989 saidow yeah, ur totally right. Holland has a SUPERgood education system and im happy to live here and that i grew up here. I can speak Dutch, English German and i can manage a bit in French. Trust me thats really cool icon_razz.gif Im totally into languages. Lots of americans only know English. More are learning spanish now though arent they? Dunno its just something about America that attracts me.... Even though in some aspects Holland is more progressive than America, in other things its the other way around....


    that america is more progressive than holland
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:35 PM GMT
    Well, I don't blame the U.S. for being less progressive than much of the rest of the developed world. It was founded by a bunch of prudes after all. Still, I've been fortunate to live away from much of the more "hardcore" conservatives. icon_smile.gif Oh and yea, our education system kinda sucks. Even so, I couldn't imagine permanently moving anywhere else.
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:45 PM GMT
    I was in the soft-money research game for a long time. That life is usually a series of 3 to 5 year assignments in various places, with no long-term home. If I'd stayed in that, certainly I'd have done a tour or two in Europe, or possibly Australia. You have to go where the work is, in your little sub-specialty. But I'd rather stay in Europe than the eastern US.

    As it happens, my longest assignments overseas have been six or eight weeks. I've been very ready to come home. I'm usually jealous of the public transportation over there, but could really do without the cigarette smoke everywhere.
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    Dec 15, 2008 10:52 PM GMT
    Niceguy1989 saidow yeah, ur totally right. Holland has a SUPERgood education system and im happy to live here and that i grew up here. I can speak Dutch, English German and i can manage a bit in French. Trust me thats really cool icon_razz.gif Im totally into languages. Lots of americans only know English. More are learning spanish now though arent they? Dunno its just something about America that attracts me.... Even though in some aspects Holland is more progressive than America, in other things its the other way around....


    I think you misunderstood me. Or my post was unclear. I meant that high school and college here -in USA- are much better than in Poland. I'm not arguing, of course, about what you say.
  • Nayro

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    Dec 15, 2008 10:57 PM GMT
    well dont wanna be cocky or something, but its known to be better/very good in holland. but im not gonna start a discussion icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 15, 2008 11:00 PM GMT
    Niceguy1989 saidwell dont wanna be cocky or something, but its known to be better/very good in holland. but im not gonna start a discussion icon_razz.gif


    Oh totally. I'm only speaking for myself.
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    Dec 15, 2008 11:01 PM GMT
    I've done my time outside the US...now i ain't goin nowhere.
  • beaujangle

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    Dec 16, 2008 1:51 AM GMT
    Yes, USA is an attractive destination.

    This is so despite the various issues & problems it faces. In fact, every country has its issues but what makes US unique is that they set high standards and they try to reach that standard. The can do attitude is amazing.

    It is a leader in IT & biotechnology and next is nanotechnology & US is expected to lead that too.

    It is a no wonder it is known as the land of opportunity.

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    Dec 16, 2008 2:07 AM GMT
    No thanks. I wanna live in Canada! icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 16, 2008 2:10 AM GMT
    The United States has become the land of the Christian Taliban. I want to move away, but I must confess to a weakness for the climate of certain places here. When I find an equivalent place elsewhere, I will leave the US.
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    Dec 16, 2008 3:03 AM GMT
    Sedative saidNo thanks. I wanna live in Canada! icon_razz.gif

    Whew...dodged that bullet! ...tee hee hee ... icon_lol.gif

    oh wait until you hit those winters .. icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 16, 2008 3:06 AM GMT
    I have a young friend who moved from Duesseldorf, Germany to the US. I could never get a full answer on why he wanted to leave Germany. He only said that germans are mean. But I dont understand because I have only met the kindest people in Germany.
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    Dec 16, 2008 3:11 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidThe United States has become the land of the Christian Taliban. I want to move away, but I must confess to a weakness for the climate of certain places here. When I find an equivalent place elsewhere, I will leave the US.


    I dunno, we just elected a very progressive president and a more left-leaning Congress. The winds of change are afoot, so leaving now would be like selling your house at the bottom of a down market.

    That said, I'd love to spend a few years in the UK and/or Spain.
  • asupas

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    Dec 16, 2008 3:13 AM GMT
    Germans are very blunt and honest in general. I'm betting that your friend had a hard time adjusting to that sort of culture.

    My relatives from Germany have the hardest time adjusting to the U.S. culture. My sister-in-law, a recent immigrant from Frankfurt, asked me why so many people here say 'we should totally hang out sometime!' but never seem to follow up with any sincerity. I honestly couldn't give her an answer that made sense. We are super concerned with maintaining a level of civility and ensuring that no one is offended that we can sometimes come off a little fake.

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    Dec 16, 2008 3:13 AM GMT
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    Sedative saidNo thanks. I wanna live in Canada! icon_razz.gif

    Whew...dodged that bullet! ...tee hee hee ... icon_lol.gif

    oh wait until you hit those winters .. icon_lol.gif


    Oh yeah. Forgot about that. icon_sad.gif

    Hrm... What about Hawaii?

    Nah, I'll just stalk Caslon.
  • tbeaux

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    Dec 16, 2008 3:14 AM GMT
    I miss Spain, I like America, but Spain does it for me. I was born in Barcelona. I miss the lifestyle. The American workaholics have made me a complete nervous wreck most of the time and I never enjoy life as I should. There's just a big cultural difference in the spanish lifestyle and the American, the days for example, how people treat each other (there are the basques, ugh, the basques), but otherwise life over in Spain can be great. Haha good story, so when my family used to own a little pastry shop there ( i have a family of bakers funny it's my last name too (my dad was adopted)) and we would on sunday's all get together and I know this sounds terrible, but we would be able to get so much money from tourists. Could trick them into giving us more than necessary and what not. most of you will probably be like uhh, never going there, don't take that so harshly, it was just something fun to do. Plus the trips to Ibiza!! besides the drugs, the clubs are ridiculousssss! amazing place i hope to live back there one day.
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    Dec 16, 2008 3:17 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidThe United States has become the land of the Christian Taliban. I want to move away, but I must confess to a weakness for the climate of certain places here. When I find an equivalent place elsewhere, I will leave the US.


    I've got the feeling this trend is moving. Lots of the moderate Christians are already starting to talk about how they can't be one-issue voters. They can be against abortions and gay marriage, but I think they are going to hear less about one-issue voting for the republican party from the pulpit. G.W. has messed it up that bad.

    The November election was a confirmation of the trend that started in 2006 away from Christian Taliban dominance.

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    Dec 16, 2008 3:50 AM GMT
    asupas saidGermans are very blunt and honest in general. I'm betting that your friend had a hard time adjusting to that sort of culture.

    He's GERMAN! He was born in D'dorf. He didnt have to adjust to anything.