Gay Ohio College Student Murdered During Horrific Online “Hook-Up” Meet

  • metta

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    Jan 26, 2014 7:58 AM GMT
    Gay Ohio College Student Murdered During Horrific Online “Hook-Up” Meet


    "A 34-year-old sex offender has been charged with the murder of 22-year-old Alliance, Ohio college student Justin Earley (photo right) in what is yet another tragic online ‘fatal hookup’ case."


    http://www.back2stonewall.com/2014/01/gay-ohio-college-student-murdered-horrific-online-hook-up-meet.html







    Awful! .....Justin Earley was on my fb 'friend' list.
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    Jan 26, 2014 8:34 AM GMT
    Damn. His Facebook page is a trail of tears.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 26, 2014 2:44 PM GMT
    This is horrible. Was this sex offender being monitored by state authorities for his every moves or was he free to do as he pleased even though he was a known sex offender. He is now a murderer since he killed this innocent gay college student.
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    Jan 27, 2014 5:05 AM GMT
    The killer kept the body in a closet for 3 weeks??? icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 27, 2014 8:34 AM GMT
    Sad. If the guy is not a serial killer, one wonders what drove him to kill this particular guy?
  • onefortified

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    Jan 27, 2014 8:44 AM GMT
    This is terrible. Makes you want to stay away from all online apps.
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    Jan 27, 2014 9:13 AM GMT
    And Joseph Fox killed their mother in 2012. WoW.

    http://fox8.com/2014/01/17/authorities-ask-for-publics-help-in-locating-murder-suspect/
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    Jan 27, 2014 9:41 AM GMT
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    Jan 27, 2014 2:20 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidDamn. His Facebook page is a trail of tears.



    Doesn't mean he deserved to die.
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    Jan 27, 2014 5:26 PM GMT
    I've taken some stupid risks in my day, and I guess I was just lucky nothing bad ever came of it, other than sometimes ending poorly in a sexual sense. Sounding good on the screen doesn't guarantee being good in the sack.

    One of my riskier ones involved an online hookup from a gay dial-up BBS, pre-Internet. The site didn't even offer pics in 1996, and few people then had digital cameras or image scanners to make them, anyway.

    It was also stupid to drive to an address where he said he was just housesitting for a vacationing friend. Great, no witnesses and my body might not be discovered in a vacant house for months.

    But it was indeed a lovely big place, with a great view overlooking Lake Washington in Seattle, an area of many houseboats below us you could see from the master bedroom. Had a spacious sauna where we initially stripped down (rather timidly & shy as I recall, I'd only been out a few months, not yet sure of the drill, nor of my own skills). In bed was OK, nothing great, and I could sense I wasn't meeting his expectations. At least I did leave the place alive, and I never saw him again.

    Point is, it was also major dumb. I was taking a terrible risk, as a crime like this one demonstrates. Since then I've been more careful when I've been single. It's sorta like when I go into a dark, packed gay club I don't know. If I can't see the exits, or they look blocked, I leave.
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    Jan 28, 2014 11:15 AM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidwell, this is what comes with hooking up with random strangers on an app or website. yeah, he didn't deserve to die BUT i'm not surprised at this shit though or when anything bad happens to guys or girls hooking up with strangers. it's a risk you take. there's no guarantee that you're going to be okay or walk out in one piece after your random anonymous sex encounter. you're trusting a stranger with your life. now if you're one of those guys that do this shit and something bad happens to you, you can't blame anybody but yourself. nobody is forcing you to do this. it's called accepting responsibility for one's choices. the lesson is don't do shit if you're afraid of the consequences or can't handle them. there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things the old fashion way. if you live fast and crash, tough shit.



    If I was the defense attorney for Mr. Fox I'd want you on the jury! Blame the victim! Good for you.
    Take it a step further....you should never go to McDonalds because people have been murdered there before. Consider that forewarning. Therefore "tough shit" if you get killed over a Big Mac.

    This is a Gay hate crime, lying in wait after putting an ad in. He snared an innocent 22 tear old young man. And this is NOT about morality. Your comment reminds me of the old rape excuse "she was asking for it" if she wore anything revealing. "Accepting responsibility for one's choices" only works here if Mr. Fox gets the death penalty.
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    Jan 28, 2014 2:27 PM GMT
    Just found this link. His mom's asking for ideas to help the family bury Justin. Totally tragic. Looks like the young man was going through rough times when it happened.

    http://www.gofundme.com/6bq65o
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    Jan 28, 2014 6:19 PM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    unckabasa said
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidwell, this is what comes with hooking up with random strangers on an app or website. yeah, he didn't deserve to die BUT i'm not surprised at this shit though or when anything bad happens to guys or girls hooking up with strangers. it's a risk you take. there's no guarantee that you're going to be okay or walk out in one piece after your random anonymous sex encounter. you're trusting a stranger with your life. now if you're one of those guys that do this shit and something bad happens to you, you can't blame anybody but yourself. nobody is forcing you to do this. it's called accepting responsibility for one's choices. the lesson is don't do shit if you're afraid of the consequences or can't handle them. there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things the old fashion way. if you live fast and crash, tough shit.



    If I was the defense attorney for Mr. Fox I'd want you on the jury! Blame the victim! Good for you.
    Take it a step further....you should never go to McDonalds because people have been murdered there before. Consider that forewarning. Therefore "tough shit" if you get killed over a Big Mac.

    This is a Gay hate crime, lying in wait after putting an ad in. He snared an innocent 22 tear old young man. And this is NOT about morality. Your comment reminds me of the old rape excuse "she was asking for it" if she wore anything revealing. "Accepting responsibility for one's choices" only works here if Mr. Fox gets the death penalty.


    no, this is just like having unprotected sex with someone you don't know. you know the risk in doing it. you know you can get burnt or something. you're taking a risk over what exactly? if you catch a disease, whose fault is it? this is not something which happened on the street where the drama came looking for him. he went out his way to have sex wit a stranger and this is one of the risks that come with that. big difference.


    Accepting one's consequences implies a suitable action/reaction to a cause/effect. A trick may give you the clap, syphilis or even HIV......none are death sentences.

    The only suitable argument (still not valid btw) is if he was seeking to star in a snuff film. You really do seem to be arguing that he deserved it. No it's not "know(ing) the risk in doing it." I have to say that logic sounds like a psychopath: diminished empathy (and lack of remorse for the killer or in your case lack of BLAME for the killer).

    Lack of empathy is the cornerstone of murder. It's why they choose seemingly social outcasts: prostitutes, Gays, street people. They somehow deserve it, are less human, and the bodies are less likely to be found as quickly.

    There is no gray area for murder.
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    Jan 29, 2014 1:48 AM GMT
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    unckabasa said
    ikilledcaptainplanet said
    unckabasa said
    ikilledcaptainplanet saidwell, this is what comes with hooking up with random strangers on an app or website. yeah, he didn't deserve to die BUT i'm not surprised at this shit though or when anything bad happens to guys or girls hooking up with strangers. it's a risk you take. there's no guarantee that you're going to be okay or walk out in one piece after your random anonymous sex encounter. you're trusting a stranger with your life. now if you're one of those guys that do this shit and something bad happens to you, you can't blame anybody but yourself. nobody is forcing you to do this. it's called accepting responsibility for one's choices. the lesson is don't do shit if you're afraid of the consequences or can't handle them. there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things the old fashion way. if you live fast and crash, tough shit.



    If I was the defense attorney for Mr. Fox I'd want you on the jury! Blame the victim! Good for you.
    Take it a step further....you should never go to McDonalds because people have been murdered there before. Consider that forewarning. Therefore "tough shit" if you get killed over a Big Mac.

    This is a Gay hate crime, lying in wait after putting an ad in. He snared an innocent 22 tear old young man. And this is NOT about morality. Your comment reminds me of the old rape excuse "she was asking for it" if she wore anything revealing. "Accepting responsibility for one's choices" only works here if Mr. Fox gets the death penalty.


    no, this is just like having unprotected sex with someone you don't know. you know the risk in doing it. you know you can get burnt or something. you're taking a risk over what exactly? if you catch a disease, whose fault is it? this is not something which happened on the street where the drama came looking for him. he went out his way to have sex wit a stranger and this is one of the risks that come with that. big difference.


    Accepting one's consequences implies a suitable action/reaction to a cause/effect. A trick may give you the clap, syphilis or even HIV......none are death sentences.

    The only suitable argument (still not valid btw) is if he was seeking to star in a snuff film. You really do seem to be arguing that he deserved it. No it's not "know(ing) the risk in doing it." I have to say that logic sounds like a psychopath: diminished empathy (and lack of remorse for the killer or in your case lack of BLAME for the killer).

    Lack of empathy is the cornerstone of murder. It's why they choose seemingly social outcasts: prostitutes, Gays, street people. They somehow deserve it, are less human, and the bodies are less likely to be found as quickly.

    There is no gray area for murder.


    no, i'm not saying that he deserved it or defending the murderer.

    look @ it like this. if you don't know me enough to trust me to some extent or with your life, why would you meet up at my place, skip past knowing me and just start making out and having sex with me as soon as you step into my house? icon_question.gif if you had some street smarts, that would tell you that's dumb because you don't do that. you don't simply throw yourself onto someone you don't know and yet somehow, someway, you have gay guys thinking this shit is absolutely normal. icon_lol.gif folks don't "hook up" intelligently or cautiously. they go about hooking up in a stupid and foolish way.

    i don't know what's normal about someone kissing another guy or having sex with a guy they just met 2 seconds of their life and are only going by the information that they see written on a phone app. that is DISTURBING. not even fuck buddies or friends with benefits or sometime in between where they get to KNOW who they're fucking. they just rush right into it. just "meet, beat and skeet". that right there is a sign of sociopathic behavior. engaging in risky, reckless behavior in an impulsive manner and not being able to handle the consequences where they're blaming the next person if something goes wrong. look it up.

    and then when we have guys that fall victim because someone takes advantage of them where they're ready to make it with, pull their pants down to them when they only seen them 2 seconds of their life, we act surprise.

    another way of looking at it is, if a stranger who you never seen before in your life walked up to you and asked to borrow 20 dollars saying that he would pay you back the next time you seen him, would you give him it? icon_neutral.gif i see that same thing when i see that hookup shit.


    Logically you make perfect sense and I agree 100%. I think the only issue is that some people are pretty upset about the murder so they can't really comprehend what you're saying.
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    Jan 29, 2014 2:02 AM GMT
    ^^
    This seems overly moralistic - as if people meeting at a bar are of a social condition of more merit. Perhaps the two will meet at the bar again coincidentally, same can be said for the app. Maybe the social circles have collided at a bar? Sociopaths have friends? Right?

    A liquor store merchant doesn't deserve to be shot but, it happens. I imagine your reasoning likens the two events. Deftly as a result your thought may be limiting sexual behavior if not reconciling with the likeness between that of this student and a liquor store attendents - or any sort of arrangement involving strangers.The sex didn't even involve money where as a liquor store transaction seems more baiting.

    I' get the those are the breaks mentality but, I wouldn't believe it is about making out with a stranger w. Wham bam thank you sir and/or ma'am - people do that all the time. You might as well say its no surprise people get shot for money - lol

    Lol as if predators of a sexual nature are deserving of more scrutiny than those of another category -
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    Jan 29, 2014 2:27 AM GMT
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    Lol as if predators of a sexual nature are deserving of more scrutiny than those of another category -


    It's a fact: people like to use victim blaming, and try to make things out that "this wouldn't happen to me, because I don't hookup with people I don't know". They do that because human nature has a way of making oneself feel 'safe' if they can avoid doing the same thing that this person happened to do. And it's stupid and baseless.

    There are people in their 50s and 60s who have been having anonymous sex throughout their lives. We don't know every person's individual experiences, and that's not to say they may not have been robbed, threatened, or stalked. But, that's not really something to blame it on. This could have just as happened if the guy met at Starbucks and came back to his place. Quality, not quantity.
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    Snaz said^^
    This seems overly moralistic - as if people meeting at a bar are of a social condition of more merit. Perhaps the two will meet at the bar again coincidentally, same can be said for the app. Maybe the social circles have collided at a bar? Sociopaths have friends? Right?

    A liquor store merchant doesn't deserve to be shot but, it happens. I imagine your reasoning likens the two events. Deftly as a result your thought may be limiting sexual behavior if not reconciling with the likeness between that of this student and a liquor store attendents - or any sort of arrangement involving strangers.The sex didn't even involve money where as a liquor store transaction seems more baiting.

    I' get the those are the breaks mentality but, I wouldn't believe it is about making out with a stranger w. Wham bam thank you sir and/or ma'am - people do that all the time. You might as well say its no surprise people get shot for money - lol

    Lol as if predators of a sexual nature are deserving of more scrutiny than those of another category -


    I think it's easy to say that anything can happen to anyone at anytime etc etc. We can go on and on about that lol.

    I'm speaking from a criminal justice perspective. This is not the first time I read about someone being murdered or robbed during what was meant to be a standard hookup. It's pretty common actually.

    All i'm saying is that a little vigilance can go a long way
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    Jan 29, 2014 2:47 AM GMT
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    Criminal justice or domestic violence abuse counselor - if thats all you're intending to write then write that. In some countries its not rape if its your husband say fuck this rubbish. In some places its not safe inside either if the your husband can rape you legally thought doean't scream that. People sleeping on floors so as not to get hit by stray bullets.

    Lol this is maddeningly stupid.
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    Jan 29, 2014 2:48 AM GMT
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    Snaz said^^
    Lol as if predators of a sexual nature are deserving of more scrutiny than those of another category -


    It's a fact: people like to use victim blaming, and try to make things out that "this wouldn't happen to me, because I don't hookup with people I don't know". They do that because human nature has a way of making oneself feel 'safe' if they can avoid doing the same thing that this person happened to do. And it's stupid and baseless.

    There are people in their 50s and 60s who have been having anonymous sex throughout their lives. We don't know every person's individual experiences, and that's not to say they may not have been robbed, threatened, or stalked. But, that's not really something to blame it on. This could have just as happened if the guy met at Starbucks and came back to his place. Quality, not quantity.


    My basis of reasoning as well.
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    Jan 29, 2014 2:52 AM GMT
    Wouldn't you like to think so - then you could quit worrying about the blue light.

    Aren't you a bible thumper that lives with your parents? How convenient for you.
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    Jan 29, 2014 2:56 AM GMT
    Hmm I thought atheists take pride in logical reasoning an education not cheap shots at slut shaming and pro religious mud slinging.
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    Jan 29, 2014 3:03 AM GMT
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    Snaz saidHmm I thought atheists take pride in logical reasoning an education not cheap shots at slut shaming and pro religious mud slinging.


    icon_lol.gif all because i don't agree with you. where in what did i say is pro religious mud slinging?

    man, you're displaying your sloppiness. how you gonna tell an atheist how to be an atheist? are you an atheist?


    Lol as you edit all your posts that aren't quoted. This is de-railing and not worth the time - I didn't tell you how to be - take care.
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    Jan 29, 2014 3:07 AM GMT
    Snaz said^^
    Criminal justice or domestic violence abuse counselor - if thats all you're intending to write then write that. In some countries its not rape if its your husband say fuck this rubbish. In some places its not safe inside either if the your husband can rape you legally thought doean't scream that. People sleeping on floors so as not to get hit by stray bullets.

    Lol this is maddeningly stupid.


    lol like I said we can use the something can happen, anywhere, at anytime at anyplace argument all day.

    We'll just agree to disagree then.
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    Jan 29, 2014 3:07 AM GMT
    I imagine those are the breaks for putting yourself out there. Kudos for trying it.
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    Jan 29, 2014 3:16 AM GMT
    You really never know what you're going to get when you agree to meet someone online, as predators use the internet a lot and some can fall into their traps. If this person was a sex offender, he shouldn't have been on the street at all, the penalties need to be much higher for these types of offenders, as a lot of them get slaps on the wrists.