D'oh Canada! ... Canadians don't understand their own political system

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    Dec 16, 2008 3:17 AM GMT
    "For example, results of the Ipsos Reid survey show 75 per cent of Canadians asked believe the prime minister, or the Governor General, is head of state. Bzzzz -- wrong. .... It's actually the Queen. ...

    "Canadians certainly were interested by what was going on in Ottawa, but lacked in many cases the basic knowledge to form informed opinions," Chalifoux said. "

    "The institute drew up four basic questions:
    • Who is the head of state?
    • How can Canada's system of government best be described?
    • Do Canadians elect the prime minister directly?
    • Can the governor general nix a prime minister's request for a new election? "

    "Given a choice how best to describe the system of government, 25 per cent decided on a "co-operative assembly" while 17 per cent opted for a "representative republic." " ....

    ... I guess "wack-a-doodle confederacy" wasnt an option ... icon_lol.gif ... icon_rolleyes.gif

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081214/survey_canada_081214/20081214?hub=Politics
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    Dec 16, 2008 9:17 PM GMT
    The official head of state is the Queen of England. We have a parliamentary system of government. We do not elect the Prime Minister directly (the Prime Minister is selected by his party, we vote for Federal members of parliament). As for the governor general nixing a request from the Prime Minister for a new election? Yes I believe she/he can, but that is something that would rarely if ever happen.

    If you asked the average American to explain their political system you would probably get the same results.
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    Dec 16, 2008 11:02 PM GMT
    No my Canadian friend, if you asked the average American about their political or governmental system you would most likely get much worse results. Many Americans have little or no interest in government/politics.
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    Dec 16, 2008 11:18 PM GMT
    SurrealLife saidThe official head of state is the Queen of England. We have a parliamentary system of government. We do not elect the Prime Minister directly (the Prime Minister is selected by his party, we vote for Federal members of parliament). As for the governor general nixing a request from the Prime Minister for a new election? Yes I believe she/he can, but that is something that would rarely if ever happen.

    If you asked the average American to explain their political system you would probably get the same results.

    Americans had nothing to do with this survey. It is interesting that you felt the need to make that comparison.
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    Dec 16, 2008 11:48 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 said
    SurrealLife saidThe official head of state is the Queen of England. We have a parliamentary system of government. We do not elect the Prime Minister directly (the Prime Minister is selected by his party, we vote for Federal members of parliament). As for the governor general nixing a request from the Prime Minister for a new election? Yes I believe she/he can, but that is something that would rarely if ever happen.

    If you asked the average American to explain their political system you would probably get the same results.

    Americans had nothing to do with this survey. It is interesting that you felt the need to make that comparison.


    True, but my point is the level of knowledge of politics and political processes is sadly lacking in North America. Probably in Europe as well.
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    Dec 17, 2008 12:54 AM GMT
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    Caslon8000 said
    SurrealLife saidThe official head of state is the Queen of England. We have a parliamentary system of government. We do not elect the Prime Minister directly (the Prime Minister is selected by his party, we vote for Federal members of parliament). As for the governor general nixing a request from the Prime Minister for a new election? Yes I believe she/he can, but that is something that would rarely if ever happen.

    If you asked the average American to explain their political system you would probably get the same results.

    Americans had nothing to do with this survey. It is interesting that you felt the need to make that comparison.


    True, but my point is the level of knowledge of politics and political processes is sadly lacking in North America. Probably in Europe as well.

    Some Canadians are not so nice...

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    Dec 17, 2008 12:56 AM GMT
    I love Rick Mercer I must admit. Best gay Newfoundlander in Canada.
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    Dec 17, 2008 5:55 AM GMT
    Is the Loon the Canadian national critter?

    Bet it tastes like chicken.
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    Dec 17, 2008 6:12 AM GMT
    Buckwheet saidIs the Loon the Canadian national critter?

    Bet it tastes like chicken.


    I'd say its would taste more like duck with that greasy taste.

    We've got lots of National animals. I think the most popular are the Beaver and the Moose.
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    Dec 17, 2008 6:46 AM GMT
    In Canada, as head of state, she is referred to as the Queen of Canada. Just as she is also the Queen of Australia, New Zealand, and Jamaica. But one thing she is not...she is NOT titled as the Queen of England as England is part of the United Kingdom.
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    Dec 17, 2008 8:35 AM GMT
    Caslon, it's interesting to see that you had to post this topic in the first place.

    Most Canadian's don't care because most of our Politicians are morons.

    I don't really mean that... but the last few years with our minority governments it's been hard to pay attention to any of it. The fighting and bitching has gotta stop.

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    Dec 17, 2008 10:36 AM GMT
    Buckwheet saidIs the Loon the Canadian national critter?

    Bet it tastes like chicken.


    Canada's official natural critter is the beaver. Ironically in some parts of the country they are almost considered a pest for their dam building ways which cut off the water flow of rivers.

    The loon is on the $1 coin (thus the "loonie").
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    Dec 17, 2008 5:02 PM GMT
    catIII saidCaslon, it's interesting to see that you had to post this topic in the first place.

    I didnt feel that I had to post this topic in the first place. I post lots of topics on Canada. If fact, I dare say, I post more about Canada than Canadians.

    But also, you are not allowed to address me directly until you reach 1000 posts....it's in the rules....looks it up! ... icon_evil.gif

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    Dec 17, 2008 5:12 PM GMT
    Ugh... I hate our politicians all they do is bitch, bitch, bitch... nothing ever seems to get done. Our PM has the personality of dry wall.. We need some new and intresting blood in Ottawa.
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    Dec 17, 2008 10:56 PM GMT


    We think 'SOME Canadians don't understand their political system.' would have been a little more accurate.

    Caslon8000 said, "I didnt feel that I had to post this topic in the first place. I post lots of topics on Canada. If fact, I dare say, I post more about Canada than Canadians.

    But also, you are not allowed to address me directly until you reach 1000 posts....it's in the rules....looks it up! ...

    Yes, you do post a lot of topics about Canada - most of them in thinly veiled derogatory style, like this one, and often incorrect.

    As for the thousand posts crapola, 'nuff said, consider yourself directly addressed, whether it be one post under a member's belt or 1000+ like us.

    Sorry Caslon, but we always read here about how wonderful you are, so...????

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    Dec 17, 2008 11:33 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    We think 'SOME Canadians don't understand their political system.' would have been a little more accurate.

    Caslon8000 said, "I didnt feel that I had to post this topic in the first place. I post lots of topics on Canada. If fact, I dare say, I post more about Canada than Canadians.

    But also, you are not allowed to address me directly until you reach 1000 posts....it's in the rules....looks it up! ...

    Yes, you do post a lot of topics about Canada - most of them in thinly veiled derogatory style, like this one, and often incorrect.

    As for the thousand posts crapola, 'nuff said, consider yourself directly addressed, whether it be one post under a member's belt or 1000+ like us.

    Sorry Caslon, but we always read here about how wonderful you are, so...????

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    ... my canadian posts are news stuff ... maybe your holier than thou atttitude about yourselves is only a thin veil thick ... and if someone lifts that veil, they see that there is just politics as usual in a confederacy that would blow to pieces if someone so much as sneezed really hard.

    ... without me, nobody would even know you have elections and a parliament

    ... and after hearing from you, I am raising my limit of direct address to 2500 posts. ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 17, 2008 11:41 PM GMT
    Sounds like the Canadians should start throwing shoes at their leaders too.
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    Caslon said,

    "and after hearing from you, I am raising my limit of direct address to 2500 posts. ... " icon_lol.gif


    ...must be lonely at the top!
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    Dec 18, 2008 1:57 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    Caslon said,

    "and after hearing from you, I am raising my limit of direct address to 2500 posts. ... " icon_lol.gif


    ...must be lonely at the top!

    OK, NOW URE STARTIN TO BORE ME
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    Dec 18, 2008 2:45 AM GMT
    "maybe your holier than thou atttitude about yourselves is only a thin veil thick ... and if someone lifts that veil, they see that there is just politics as usual in a confederacy that would blow to pieces if someone so much as sneezed really hard."



    Just perhaps, someone knows astoundingly little about Canadians.


    "... without me, nobody would even know you have elections and a parliament"


    ...and perhaps, without someone's erroneous slant on all things Canadian, others inform themselves by looking things up, or even, horrors, asking a Canadian, rather than repeatedly throwing down gauntlets.

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    Dec 18, 2008 3:34 AM GMT
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    Dec 18, 2008 4:21 AM GMT
    Wouldn't she be the sovereign of the British Commonwealth? something close to that as a general phrase? and caslon's LOLcats pwn...
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    Dec 18, 2008 5:12 PM GMT
    Trance24 saidSounds like the Canadians should start throwing shoes at their leaders too.
    bushoes.gif



    Hahahaha I love it. Someone got all over that shit pretty fast.icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 18, 2008 5:13 PM GMT
    SurrealLife saidI love Rick Mercer I must admit. Best gay Newfoundlander in Canada.


    And only comes up too my shoulder.. I met him at pride this june gone.
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    Dec 18, 2008 5:21 PM GMT
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    SurrealLife saidI love Rick Mercer I must admit. Best gay Newfoundlander in Canada.


    And only comes up too my shoulder.. I met him at pride this june gone.


    He is vertically challenged isn't he? He comes to Toronto Pride it seems every year, but I have yet to see him. Not surprising with 500,000+ people milling about.