Protein powder or just eat smart?

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    Jan 27, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
    I'm on the fence with protein powders…

    Added cost, not always the best taste, and I never feel "right" after downing shakes before workouts, after workouts and so on…

    So my question is…are they really all that, or are they just a hyped up industry to help sell fitness magazines, etc.

    I mean how long have they really been around? Seems like maybe only 30 years or so. And before that guys and gals were looking just fine.

    Thoughts?
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    Jan 27, 2014 11:04 PM GMT
    both.
    Sunwarrior or the Raw Protein by the Garden of Life are both incredible for me, but everyone has their preference.
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    Jan 27, 2014 11:12 PM GMT
    Supplements are exactly that. Supplements to your current diet. I don't anyone should feel compelled to use them, unless they feel they're not getting enough nutrients through food.
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    Jan 28, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
    Given your stature and weight, your needs for protein and calories are trivial enough for you to get away with using no protein supplements whatsoever. The logistics of diets very high in calories and protein are far more complicated. Those on such diets don't have the luxury of spending their entire day doing nothing but eating. Protein supplements allow these folks to consume protein more often spending less time while doing so. They also allow folks with appetites below their needs to consume what would otherwise be unbearable.
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    Jan 28, 2014 1:38 AM GMT
    fithappy saidboth.
    Sunwarrior or the Raw Protein by the Garden of Life are both incredible for me, but everyone has their preference.


    I'll look into those. Thanks.
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    Jan 28, 2014 1:39 AM GMT
    xrichx saidSupplements are exactly that. Supplements to your current diet. I don't anyone should feel compelled to use them, unless they feel they're not getting enough nutrients through food.


    Sometimes it seems guys are way more into pills and potions vs time to eat right.
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    Jan 28, 2014 1:40 AM GMT
    bachian saidGiven your stature and weight, your needs for protein and calories are trivial enough for you to get away with using no protein supplements whatsoever. The logistics of diets very high in calories and protein are far more complicated. Those on such diets don't have the luxury of spending their entire day doing nothing but eating. Protein supplements allow these folks to consume protein more often spending less time while doing so. They also allow folks with appetites below their needs to consume what would otherwise be unbearable.


    I see your point there, for sure. I just wonder what the long term effect may be down the road vs natural food. Just one of those life's mysteries I think about at work.
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    Jan 28, 2014 1:45 AM GMT
    CLE1979 said
    bachian saidGiven your stature and weight, your needs for protein and calories are trivial enough for you to get away with using no protein supplements whatsoever. The logistics of diets very high in calories and protein are far more complicated. Those on such diets don't have the luxury of spending their entire day doing nothing but eating. Protein supplements allow these folks to consume protein more often spending less time while doing so. They also allow folks with appetites below their needs to consume what would otherwise be unbearable.


    I see your point there, for sure. I just wonder what the long term effect may be down the road vs natural food. Just one of those life's mysteries I think about at work.


    Dehydration is the main side effect of protein powder. So whatever damage that causes long-term (kidneys or liver, I can never remember)- assuming you don't drink enough water to counter act it.
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:00 AM GMT
    fithappy saidboth.
    Sunwarrior or the Raw Protein by the Garden of Life are both incredible for me, but everyone has their preference.


    Sunwarrior? UGHHHHH! That shit tastes like DIRT. If you were closer, I'd gladly give you my bottle. Vega is much much better.
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:41 AM GMT
    both indeed.
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:59 AM GMT
    I don't supplement protein. I do use a weight gainer daily.
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:18 AM GMT
    Human males create a very nice protein ya know

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    Jan 28, 2014 10:08 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidChicken.

    Doritos crusted chicken strips

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    Jan 28, 2014 1:25 PM GMT
    Eat smart.
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    Jan 28, 2014 1:30 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    woodsmen saidChicken.

    Doritos crusted chicken strips

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    wow that looks GOOD !!
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    Jan 28, 2014 2:50 PM GMT
    While you can certainly get all the protein in your day (with some planning) without the supplements, sometimes it's just a matter of convenience and/or schedule to use them. I find that to be true for myself, and I often go off them for a long while and then come back again, depending.
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    Both , protein shake and a balanced diet. We need essential amino acids , vitamins, minerals , etc. and they are not always present in our diet everyday. I like Isopure that comes with many flavors ( just one scoop in my yogurt and fruits shake at breakfast) and for snacks I get some time EAS advantage EDGE carb control. Just my preferences.
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    Jan 28, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    bachian saidGiven your stature and weight, your needs for protein and calories are trivial enough for you to get away with using no protein supplements whatsoever. The logistics of diets very high in calories and protein are far more complicated. Those on such diets don't have the luxury of spending their entire day doing nothing but eating. Protein supplements allow these folks to consume protein more often spending less time while doing so. They also allow folks with appetites below their needs to consume what would otherwise be unbearable.


    Both, for these reasons.
  • Destinharbor

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    Jan 28, 2014 7:44 PM GMT
    There are mixed views about when and how you should do protein. For a while the common agreement was within 30 minutes of working out IF you are trying to gain mass. Then it went to an hour, then before AND after workout and a lot of "experts" now say anytime so long as you're getting enough. My experience is the 30 minutes after really worked for me. I'd been working out for years and when I started that protocol, I immediately added mass. I now do a protein shake in the morning essentially for breakfast and it is a low cal start that also controls my appetite. I work out in the early evenings and do a shake within 30 minutes which feeds the muscle and also dampens my appetite for dinner. For me, it made a big difference. I couldn't get that without the powder.
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    Jan 28, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
    CLE1979 said
    xrichx saidSupplements are exactly that. Supplements to your current diet. I don't anyone should feel compelled to use them, unless they feel they're not getting enough nutrients through food.


    Sometimes it seems guys are way more into pills and potions vs time to eat right.
    In our rat race society today where time is increasingly constrained by employment, errands and other important responsibilities, eating right has become a very difficult task. Who has time to carefully prepare food in a way that is beneficial to a bodybuilding lifestyle. Who has the time to prepare enough food for six small meals a dayicon_question.gif
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    Jan 28, 2014 9:10 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI consume roughly 52 grams worth of protein from a protein powder by Now brand which is made from peas. I'm a vegetarian so it can be a little difficult trying to get 180 to 200 grams of protein per day in my diet from food sources alone.

    I still do intermittent fasting and work out according to the leangains.com website and their philosophy. According to their approach, eating whole foods is the best option to do. Although he will support having protein drinks but only after a workout. Other than that, the person who runs that site strongly recommends eating whole foods. I support this as well and when I used to eat meat I would eat chicken and sweet potatoes after my workout.

    Lots of nutritionist and fitness gurus highly recommend consuming protein drinks with lots of glucose in order to replenish glycogen stores to your muscles after a workout. I have to admit, that when I ate chicken and sweet potatoes afterward, my workouts did not suffer and I looked great. The only thing I lost was body fat and I got super lean. But as much as I loved the way my body looked back then I cannot resort to eating animal protein sources due to my ethical beliefs regarding the mistreatment of animals within our agricultural industry.


    I appreciate your insight. For some reason it just doesn't seem healthy to me. I'll check out the Now brand too.
  • BoostToChase

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    Jan 28, 2014 11:57 PM GMT
    I always felt awful after drinking whey protein powders, isolate or otherwise. Find a few plant based sources and try those. I rotate soy, hemp, and pea protein powder. Eventually, you get over the grassy flavor of hemp. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 29, 2014 10:21 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    CLE1979 said

    I appreciate your insight. For some reason it just doesn't seem healthy to me. I'll check out the Now brand too.


    If your initial reaction is a negative one to fasting, I suggest you do some research before you come to that initial response and accept as being true for you. The type of diet that I eat doesn't prohibit me from restricting my calories. I consume the same amount of calories that most people who lift weights in their typical 12 to 14 hour time frame. I simply condense all my calories within an eight hour window. So for example, my first meal might be at noon and then my last meal is at 8PM but I can eat as much as I want during that eight hour time frame. Of course, I try to eat well and nutritiously and don't eat junk or garbage. There a lot of benefits to fasting in this manner.


    My bad…I wasn't being negative to your input. I meant I don't find downing all of these protein drinks as a healthy option. Nothing against you!
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    Jan 29, 2014 10:51 PM GMT
    CLE1979 saidI'm on the fence with protein powders…

    Added cost, not always the best taste, ...

    Putting stuff in your mouth should be pleasurable, not a chore.
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    Jan 29, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
    BoostToChase saidI always felt awful after drinking whey protein powders, isolate or otherwise. Find a few plant based sources and try those. I rotate soy, hemp, and pea protein powder. Eventually, you get over the grassy flavor of hemp. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Have you tried this one? Tastes good and I've had good results with it. I actually just got back from The Vitamin Shoppe about 5 minutes ago and bought another can. http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/vega-vega-sport-performance-protein-vanilla-29-2-oz-powder/eq-1012?sourceType=sc&source=FG&adGroup=40-60&keyword=EQ-1012&cm_mmc=Google+Shopping-_-Product+Listing+Ads-_-40-60-_-EQ-1012&gclid=CLSU5OzEpLwCFRAS7Aod7iMAbw&gclsrc=aw.ds#.UumOwWRDsrc