What makes a good story?

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    Jan 28, 2014 3:24 AM GMT
    What's your favorite book/movie/tv show? What made the story so great to you?
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:31 AM GMT
    I cant think of them right now but generally anything that has a weak, struggling protagonist that overcomes adversity by finding strength within him/herself, a strength he/she did not know they had possessed all along...

    *too much cheese?*

    I like to see the geek get the pretty girl too.
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:33 AM GMT
    The best story I know is the one I'm in the middle of writing.
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:47 AM GMT
    The characters.
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    Jan 28, 2014 3:48 AM GMT
    kiwiLifter said
    Aristoshark saidThe best story I know is the one I'm in the middle of writing.


    It would have to be classed under the genre Disaster Movie then.

    Curious remark. What makes you say that?
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:02 AM GMT
    kiwiLifter said
    Sorry I thought you were making one of your usual flamboyant remarks but it seems you actually ARE writing a novel - how arty of you!

    Yes, an excerpt of it is being published in a literary magazine on Saturday.
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:21 AM GMT
    kiwiLifter said
    Aristoshark said
    kiwiLifter said
    Sorry I thought you were making one of your usual flamboyant remarks but it seems you actually ARE writing a novel - how arty of you!

    Yes, an excerpt of it is being published in a literary magazine on Saturday.


    Who reads those?

    Publishers and agents do. Which is how you get their attention. Although I have an agent already.
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:40 AM GMT
    A plot break so it resembles real life.
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:43 AM GMT
    Plenty of surprising twists & turns.
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:44 AM GMT
    J.K. Rowling
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:45 AM GMT
    originality of plot.. i like movies like "Stranger than Fiction" or "The Invention of Lying".. "The Butterfly Effect" or "American Beauty" ... great plot and very creative icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:55 AM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidWhat's your favorite book/movie/tv show? What made the story so great to you?


    Too many for me to choose, I watch and read everything!
    But I think the best stories are the ones that explore the complex intricacies of human relationships, especially in matters of love.
    A bit of fighting action helps too. icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 28, 2014 4:56 AM GMT
    A hero/ine with profound, admirable qualities, with just as many profound flaws.

    Firm buttocks

    A scene where a muscular man is walking down the street, say, in the direction of a guy like, say, n8698u, then splits the front of his pants WIDE open...and his junk spills out of the breach...and n8698u does a slo-mo flying leap...to catch said junk in his capable grasp. Ya know, the way Charles Dickens would write it. icon_wink.gif

    Scented pages.
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:00 AM GMT
    kiwiLifter said
    Aristoshark said
    kiwiLifter said
    Sorry I thought you were making one of your usual flamboyant remarks but it seems you actually ARE writing a novel - how arty of you!

    Yes, an excerpt of it is being published in a literary magazine on Saturday.


    Who reads those?


    Obviously not someone who doesn't even know the name of his favorite story icon_rolleyes.gif

    Which happens to be "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:02 AM GMT
    A good story teller.

    I'm not a good story teller.
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:03 AM GMT
    n8698u said

    Firm buttocks...

    Scented pages.


    Yeessss scented pages! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:06 AM GMT
    I like plot twist or surprise ending.

    Also a story with a character that reader/viewer can identify/sympathize with.
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:07 AM GMT
    I enjoy Jurassic Park, over all the fantasy and superhero films. As for books I first enjoyed Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles before getting into any other series. So ultimately I think it depends mutually on the authors ability to craft a world, and the reader/viewers ability to enter and believe in it. Nothing is better than really immersing yourself into a story and being inspired by the text.
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:12 AM GMT
    Thanks for all the feedback guys! As some if you know I been working on.a fictional novel for a while now. I'm absolutely in love with my characters ( one female in particular). But I feel like something is missing but I'm not sure what..maybe a stronger beginning
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:14 AM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidThanks for all the feedback guys! As some if you know I been working on.a fictional novel for a while now. I'm absolutely in love with my characters ( one female in particular). But I feel like something is missing but I'm not sure what..maybe a stronger beginning


    I'd like to read your synopsis of your novel. Maybe I can help. icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:46 AM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidThanks for all the feedback guys! As some if you know I been working on.a fictional novel for a while now. I'm absolutely in love with my characters ( one female in particular). But I feel like something is missing but I'm not sure what..maybe a stronger beginning


    Oh, I don't know. I think that there are a lot of different ways to get to a good story. But all I keep getting asked to write are textbook chapters icon_rolleyes.gif I'm in favor of a strong "hook" beginning, even if you have to resort to a flash-back (or forward) tease.

    I've got two or three really good (short) stories in me, (and maybe a whole textbook) but I haven't been able to figure out how to get them written.

    I've read that Douglass Adams actually hid from his editor. And J.R.R. Tolkien would get stuck, throw out the whole manuscript, and start over again from the beginning. Maybe they were human after all.
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    Jan 28, 2014 5:50 AM GMT
    My favorite book contains fairly simplistic writing. There is little described and the plot moves every sentence.

    I personally think most authors spend too much time meandering in descriptions of things that have no significance. Authors are so strict that they leave no room for the reader to imagine things on their own. And readers are the most capable kind of person for just that.

    It saddens me.
  • Webster666

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    Jan 28, 2014 6:37 AM GMT
    I read a lot of books.
    I can easily recognize what I think is good writing (and bad).
    Plus, the author has to make me care about what happens to the characters in the story.
    Of course, there are many genres, and we all have our preferences.

    Truman Capote was a phenomenally talented writer.
    J.K. Rowling's "Harry Potter" series of books was brilliantly entertaining for a very wide audience of both children and adults.
    Personally, I love James Patterson's series of "Alex Cross" detective books. They're real page turners.

    Some authors have only 1 or 2 good books in them. Two examples are, "The Time Traveler's Wife," by Audrey Neffenegger and "A Million Little Pieces," by James Frey. Both of them were so well written, and their stories so engrossing that I didn't want them to end.
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    Favorite movies ?
    -- "The Trip To Bountiful"
    -- "Field of Dreams"
    Both are beautifully written and acted.
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    Jan 28, 2014 6:49 AM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidThanks for all the feedback guys! As some if you know I been working on.a fictional novel for a while now. I'm absolutely in love with my characters ( one female in particular). But I feel like something is missing but I'm not sure what..maybe a stronger beginning


    I definitely recommend that you hit your readers with something that will draw them in, get their attention, and want them to care enough about the characters to keep reading.

    Amazon.com lets you read the first few pages of any book that you're considering buying. That's how I decide. Are those first few pages well written ? Do they draw me in ?

    So, yes, be sure you have a great beginning.
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    Jan 28, 2014 6:57 AM GMT
    Webster666 said
    Plus, the author has to make me care about what happens to the characters in the story. ...

    J.K. Rowling's "Harry Potter" series of books was brilliantly entertaining for a very wide audience of both children and adults.

    I definitely agree about making me care about the characters or the central character. I've always wanted to like mysteries but so many of them have no character development; the inspector/detective/private eye/whatever is typically a two dimensional paper doll that you don't care about at all. But I've finally found some that do it right.

    But I disagree about the Harry Potter books because they fail on my second requirement which is that there has to be some development of the plot. In the Harry Potter books the plot was the Voldemort thing. But that only comes up about 10% throughout each book. The rest of the book is all character stuff (quidditch matches, who's snogging who, the latest vising professor, etc. ad nauseam). Books that have minimal plot and are mostly character stuff I call soap operas in book format.

    Edit: Regarding what I call "soap opera" books: they're entertaining to read but after I've finished them I feel like my time could have been better spent.