Sleepless in Denver (Instead of Seattle)

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    Jan 28, 2014 4:59 AM GMT
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    I know this is long, but I just have to let it out. It's just been 1 of those weeks.

    With Denver going to the Superbowl playing Seattle, now everyone gets to hear both cities' names on a daily basis. Now that that's the case, it brings a bit more attention/focus to the city (not as much as NY hosting Superbowl).

    But for what it's worth...all the hype just don't do anything for me. In order to really understand it, you just have be around these people long enough in my shoes to understand just how silly and narrow-minded they can be out here. It's amazing how a city's people can just totally detract from an otherwise decent city for some people.

    I was just at the gym today, and it reminded me of that. I decided to listen in on a conversation, just to see what and how people start chatting here. For one, I always find I get excluded from conversations...because whenever I'm in the steamroom/sauna...for the most part I'm never acknowledged. They'll chat with people who are the majority for the state, but act like I'm not even there. Then, I noticed the conversation always turns to snowboarding or other winter sports. Nothing wrong with that, but I don't even know anyone who does that kind of stuff because I never get invited to join anyone.

    Then, 1 of the guys in the sauna went to the hottub 1st at the same time I was thinking of going. The same guy who I had a brief conversation. He gets in the pool first, but I sit way on the other end and he immediately gets out. I'm like, what the hell is his problem? What, I'm going to contaminate the fucking pool or something?

    Then, the gay scene here is no different. People mingle in their closely knit (cliquey) circles and totally snub you if you're a minority. The Black guys you see here are either alone because no one will approach them, or they are aggressively hunting down what they want, because no one will approach them. I observed and realized who the Black guys here who have some popularity going for themselves. It's almost always because they can be used for rides, party favors, or a place to crash. I mean, you might get a little bit of fake attention here and there from some groups (and you have to know someone they know), but it's quickly revealed down the line that it's all about nothing. The minute they realize you can't or won't do what they need you for (or once they get it), they fall to the wayside. Friendship over. It has to be all about what the fuck you can do for their fucking sorry ass.

    I'm just over it. 3 years of living in inadequacy. I call it that because it's not that I haven't had fun here, or met some great friends/dates/fuck buddies or gone to some nice places...but it's usually short-lived or hollowed up experiences. It didn't last, and it's always been conditional. I've been able to go further in many other cities I've lived (except Dallas, which wasn't much different).

    I'm just ready. I need to just start somewhere. I'll take Raleigh, maybe DC area, Minneapolis, Florida, Boston. Even if it's not long-term, but just something temporary just to break the cycle or something.

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    Jan 28, 2014 5:14 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidSeattle is completely different.


    Are you suggesting they win? lol.

    I've heard of a couple people moving out to Seattle...I went there but I didn't really spend alot of time out there. My only thing with Seattle is the other thing that gets me about Denver...the distance to the next city. Although I know Vancouver and Portland are nearby...But I don't like Oregon.
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    Jan 28, 2014 7:30 AM GMT
    Maybe you just suck as a human being? If you act in anyway shape, or form the same as you do in here, I would try and avoid you at all costs too. You are doing nothing but living up to the stereotype of the angry black man. Chill the fuck out dude.icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 28, 2014 7:38 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidMaybe you just suck as a human being? If you act in anyway shape, or form the same as you do in here, I would try and avoid you at all costs too. You are doing nothing but living up to the stereotype of the angry black man. Chill the fuck out dude.icon_confused.gif


    Did you know that making biased comments stunts your growth? Plus you're Mexican, so you got 2 things working against you. icon_lol.gif

    But on a serious note, have you actually been here to properly refute what I'm saying? What would make you think that without surveying other people/crowd in the area? You have to actually be here in order to understand my point of view. Without that, you just can't assume that it's just me. And not only do you need to be here, but you need to listen to and assess what other people like myself may experience in the area. There's alot of people who've been here their whole lives, and yet don't realize what I go thru until I tell them...and then they in turn, agree with it.

    I know for one, 1 of my other Black friends left to Dallas because he was 'over it'...for the same reasons I was, except for he was a little less affected by it than I was. However, I think what did it for him was when his roommate (Hispanic) ended up getting with and being boyfriends with the very guy he was trying to pursue. And I'm pretty sure that atleast one of the reasons was due to race. That be the 1st disqualifying factor right there.

    And I will say, yes...I may be sounding like I'm the angry Black man. But, I've noticed in Colorado, we tend to be like that anyway simply for the same reasons I mentioned: lack of acknowledgement, being treated indifferent, not really being able to find any belonging in social circles, etc.
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    Jan 28, 2014 7:55 AM GMT
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    jmusmc85 saidMaybe you just suck as a human being? If you act in anyway shape, or form the same as you do in here, I would try and avoid you at all costs too. You are doing nothing but living up to the stereotype of the angry black man. Chill the fuck out dude.icon_confused.gif


    Did you know that making biased comments stunts your growth? Plus you're Mexican, so you got 2 things working against you. icon_lol.gif

    But on a serious note, have you actually been here to properly refute what I'm saying? What would make you think that without surveying other people/crowd in the area? You have to actually be here in order to understand my point of view. Without that, you just can't assume that it's just me. And not only do you need to be here, but you need to listen to and assess what other people like myself may experience in the area. There's alot of people who've been here their whole lives, and yet don't realize what I go thru until I tell them...and then they in turn, agree with it.

    I know for one, 1 of my other Black friends left to Dallas because he was 'over it'...for the same reasons I was, except for he was a little less affected by it than I was. However, I think what did it for him was when his roommate (Hispanic) ended up getting with and being boyfriends with the very guy he was trying to pursue. And I'm pretty sure that atleast one of the reasons was due to race. That be the 1st disqualifying factor right there.

    And I will say, yes...I may be sounding like I'm the angry Black man. But, I've noticed in Colorado, we tend to be like that anyway simply for the same reasons I mentioned: lack of acknowledgement, being treated indifferent, not really being able to find any belonging in social circles, etc.


    Nigga, please. I have never used racism as an excuse for my ahem...shortcomings.

    Whatever is happening around you is of your own doing. For every angry black man such as yourself complaining that the world is out to get them, there is a Sage, Montague, and BlackCat out there who are getting by in life just fine.

    You have a sour attitude dude. Like I said, if you act the same way you do on here, it is no wonder why people avoid you. I would too. And it's not because you are black. But because you are a buzzkill, plain and simple.

    Before I moved out to Miami, I lived in DC which has a relatively small Latino population. I did just find making friends, getting laid, going out etc....

    In Miami it's been a little harder, even with a large Latino population. But that's all on me. I've found my niche now.

    You just need to knock that chip off your shoulder. Then maybe you will find someone to put up with you for more than 5 minutes....
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    Jan 28, 2014 7:58 AM GMT
    And by the way Jmusky...you live in Miami. I am from Florida too. When I went back to Ft Lauderdale/Miami last month...I was not complaining AT ALL. I had 2 guys I was dating, we were going out to dinner/White party, Cuban restaurants and everything. I had found a group of friends after being there just 2 weeks.

    So don't even think this is just me...This ain't got shit to do with me. Because I don't even have near the same obstacles here as I do there when it comes to finding friends/meeting men. The only thing down there is it can be a bit short-lived, but it's not hard to find someone else.
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    Jan 28, 2014 8:00 AM GMT
    People, do not allow Jmusky to come in this thread and cause disruption. He just craves attention and is desperate to get it from me, because he always have to argue with me everytime I say something. I've already addressed you J...I will not address you again. I did not even read the above post you put because it looks like garbage.

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    Jan 28, 2014 8:05 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 saidAnd by the way Jmusky...you live in Miami. I am from Florida too. When I went back to Ft Lauderdale/Miami last month...I was not complaining AT ALL. I had 2 guys I was dating, we were going out to dinner/White party, Cuban restaurants and everything. I was doing that when I was 17.

    So don't even think this is just me...This ain't got shit to do with me. Because I don't even have near the same obstacles here as I do there when it comes to finding friends/meeting men. The only thing down there is it can be a bit short-lived, but it's not hard to find someone else.


    You were dating 2 guys at White Party? Jesus Christ. You sure do get around. Whore.

    And the White Party is pretty much 95% white and Latino guys. I think I saw maybe a handful of black guys there, with well over a thousand in attendance. I don't think is the diversity you crave and bitch about all the time on RJ. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 28, 2014 8:09 AM GMT
    JYou were dating 2 guys at White Party? Jesus Christ. You sure do get around. Whore.

    And the White Party is pretty much 95% white and Latino guys. I think I saw maybe a handful of black guys there, with well over a thousand in attendance. I don't think is the diversity you crave and bitch about all the time on RJ.


    Dating as in 'dating', not fucking.

    I'm not craving or bitching about diversity. You're misunderstanding. I'm talking about where 1 stands being a minority and how they are perceived as such. I can go to Finland or Norway and be the only Black person there, and be singing a totally different tune. People from those countries have SUGGESTED I go there for myself.

    Besides, it's different in Miami because many of those White/Latin guys are from all different countries. Not simply from Northern Mexico or smack-dab in the middle of America.
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    Jan 29, 2014 5:41 AM GMT
    Ugh, another bored day in Denver. I met this guy off Grindr today, he's been trying to meet with me for months. I meet up with him, and the attraction was meager. On top of that, the whole meeting was just lackluster.

    I'm just like once again, this is why I can't stand being here. The fucking dating sites here suck, Grindr sucks here, can't meet enough decent men out here...despite the fact that there are some here and there. I know meeting men isn't the be all, end all of the world...but most people atleast want to have the POTENTIAL to meet and date other guys.