Why do you think gays become irreligious?

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    Jan 30, 2014 6:39 PM GMT
    This has been on my mind for a while. I've noticed a lot of gay men are irreligious. But is it because of legitimate disbelief or is it a response to the marginalization gays are subjected to by religion? Is it a combination of both?

    Now personally I consider myself agnostic, not because of the anti-gay views of the Catholicism I was raised in but because reading the bible and taking religious instruction I thought to myself "wow this God guy is kind of a controlling sociopath douche." I got tired of living under the rigidity of some invisible god that lives up in the clouds with no proof of existence. I decided to forge my own destiny.
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    Jan 30, 2014 6:41 PM GMT
    ^Same
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    Jan 30, 2014 6:52 PM GMT
    Religions do not accept gay people because gay people aren't "normal". They see things in black and white.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:01 PM GMT
    I don't believe in a god of Christianity, Islam or Judaism. There may be a God but She is different than everything we know.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:01 PM GMT
    I believe in Jesus.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:03 PM GMT
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?


    I'm not responsible for the original sin but I know through Jesus their is redemption and salvation. All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidJaggal said "Right, but the burden of proof would be on the believers, and anyway, the same thing can be said for the Tooth Fairy..."

    We also have been unable to explain why multicellular form life occurred on Earth but no where else in the Universe that we know of.


    Why is not relevant. Multicellular lifeforms aren't conscious. Are they? Pure chance.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
    well, I'll have u know that if you die unbaptized, you'll like...never get into heaven....any of you.

    you'll spend an eternity burning in hell

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    Jan 30, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
    Jaggal said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    I had no sins, I wasn't born yet.


    But you have sins now. Sin is basically missing the mark. Sin is the reason as to why you can't show your face publicly on RJ because you are afraid of being judged.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?


    I'm not responsible for the original sin but I know through Jesus their is redemption and salvation. All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    All animals "sin". Its called learning.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:08 PM GMT
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?


    I'm not responsible for the original sin but I know through Jesus their is redemption and salvation. All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    All animals "sin". Its called learning.



    We are not animals, we are Humans.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:10 PM GMT
    Jaggal said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    I had no sins, I wasn't born yet.


    But you have sins now. Sin is basically missing the mark. Sin is the reason as to why you can't show your face publicly on RJ because you are afraid of being judged.


    No, I have no sins. I do not show my face publicly as not to endanger finding a job in case a prospective employer is homophobic.


    Right, because he would judge you for being a homosexual. All it takes is your belief that Jesus died on the cross for you.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:10 PM GMT
    Jarlan. All animals share blood. We all have brains and we all have hearts. We all yawn and we procreate. We are clever animals. We are mammals.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:11 PM GMT
    Jaggal said
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?


    I'm not responsible for the original sin but I know through Jesus their is redemption and salvation. All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    All animals "sin". Its called learning.



    We are not animals, we are Humans.


    Humans are animals...we belong to the Kingdom Animalia.


    Jesus loves you.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
    FutureBanana saidJarlan. All animals share blood. We all have brains and we all have hearts. We all yawn and we procreate. We are clever animals. We are mammals.



    True, but we are still HUMANS.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
    It depends on how youve been raised and how conservative is your church. I was born chistian catholic and im friends with the priest at my church (save your jokes) and his views on the bible differ from the conservative-crazy-religious people taking everything (or more like what its convenient for them) literal. Actually when I came out it was after having a conversation with him.

    Religion is 100% about faith, theres no proof, so if you think about it wont make any sense. I do it because I want to, I chose to have faith, it's something that makes me feel good and theres no reason for me to lose that faith. Crazy fanatic christians being hateful in the "name of the lord" wont change my views on how I was raised as a catholic.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
    Does Jesus love a nonChristian when he or she dies? A Sikh dies but Jesus still loves him or her. What then?
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:15 PM GMT
    ViciousRumor said
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?


    I'm not responsible for the original sin but I know through Jesus their is redemption and salvation. All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    But what impetus do you even have to have such a faith?

    Original sin is the reason why there was a 'Jesus' to begin with. What is the point of any of that? It doesn't hold any proven logic


    Jesus was actually there in the beginning. The Father created the Universe through the Son. If you've ever read the old testament and the new you would see how things have changed for us. Jesus is the answer.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:15 PM GMT
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana saidJarlan. All animals share blood. We all have brains and we all have hearts. We all yawn and we procreate. We are clever animals. We are mammals.



    True, but we are still HUMANS.

    We are animals with the magic power of Jesus.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:16 PM GMT
    i2ci2i saidI don't love Jesus, the cunt's caused millions to spill blood over him, he should've just kept his big mouth shut.


    That's the cause of sin. The wages of sin is death. So you blame Jesus for the misinterpretation caused by a human mind? Silly.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:17 PM GMT
    JarIan said
    ViciousRumor said
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?


    I'm not responsible for the original sin but I know through Jesus their is redemption and salvation. All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    But what impetus do you even have to have such a faith?

    Original sin is the reason why there was a 'Jesus' to begin with. What is the point of any of that? It doesn't hold any proven logic


    Jesus was actually there in the beginning. The Father created the Universe through the Son. If you've ever read the old testament and the new you would see how things have changed for us. Jesus is the answer.

    Jesus loves virgins. He's hung and he wants you to feed you his body.
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:18 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana saidJarlan. All animals share blood. We all have brains and we all have hearts. We all yawn and we procreate. We are clever animals. We are mammals.



    True, but we are still HUMANS.

    We are animals with the magic power of Jesus.


    It's not magical power. Come on, explain the golden ratio in nature/universe?
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    Jan 30, 2014 7:19 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    JarIan said
    ViciousRumor said
    JarIan said
    FutureBanana said
    JarIan said
    Jaggal said
    JarIan saidI believe in Jesus.


    He doesn't believe in you.


    All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    Original sin is a silly idea. Why should you be responsible for Original Sin?


    I'm not responsible for the original sin but I know through Jesus their is redemption and salvation. All it takes is your belief that he died on the cross for our sins.


    But what impetus do you even have to have such a faith?

    Original sin is the reason why there was a 'Jesus' to begin with. What is the point of any of that? It doesn't hold any proven logic


    Jesus was actually there in the beginning. The Father created the Universe through the Son. If you've ever read the old testament and the new you would see how things have changed for us. Jesus is the answer.

    Jesus loves virgins. He's hung and he wants you to feed you his body.


    Obviously the verse you are referring to is a metaphor.