Why do you hate steroids?

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    Feb 06, 2014 11:56 PM GMT
    I have wondered for a long time why steroids are seen as a negative thing. I myself don't use them obviously if you see my picturesicon_lol.gif but can't see why people outcast and belittle the users. I never could understand why one person lifting weights for themselves could be concerned about what another person does to their body.
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    Feb 07, 2014 8:23 PM GMT
    Strangers using steroids are probably the biggest cause of body dysmorphia in men.
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    Feb 07, 2014 8:35 PM GMT
    Body image.
    Especially in the gay community, where so many gay teens suffer from eating disorders, or whatever the hell else, wanting to look like these UNnatural bodies.

    I personally don't care. IT makes me feel a little about myself and my efforts knowing a guy uses roids to achieve their goals while I don't.
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    Feb 07, 2014 8:38 PM GMT
    Because i don't need to supplement my body. I'm fine with what i got

    No offense to whoever is into that though
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    Feb 07, 2014 9:11 PM GMT
    I take steroids that my doctor prescribed for me, so I feel absolutely NO guilt. He said Androgel would help me to build muscle and it has. The DEA tested it, it's safe, and it doesn't support the black market economy so what's the problem?
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    Feb 07, 2014 9:16 PM GMT
    People like belittling others to feel better about themselves. Gotta tell people their life choices are horrible in order to make yours seem better!

    If you want to get all indignant about gay guys using drugs bitch about crystal meth. Roids will never fuck you up as much as it will.
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    Feb 08, 2014 6:21 AM GMT
    Despite being 'performance enhancing', the negatives of anabolic steroids outweighs the positives about it significantly. Steroids can damage the linings of your smooth muscles and the loose connective tissues, like the reticular and cuboidal cells in your kidneys/liver (both are responsible for filtration) because of the sudden increase in levels of testosterone. Anabolic steroids can also cause problems with your cardiac muscle tissues and the intercalated discs that help control the contractions of your ventricles in your heart, specifically the left ventricle, which has the deoxygenated blood. Anabolic steroids also negatively effect the growth of your bones and can cause dependency, leading to secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex: enlarged breasts, atrophy of the penis, baldness, etc. Also, anabolic steroids increase cholesterol levels (steroids are fats , and excess fats turn areolar connective tissue, due to mesenchymal cells, into adipose tissues which contains a lot of energy and is hard to burn).

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    Feb 08, 2014 12:01 PM GMT
    shaggyfromscoobydooisgay saiddon't care about steroids. just hate how you have some dudes out there that are using them THEN turning around talking about "i'm natural. i did it all by myself. you can get this way too without using steroids" then becoming fitness trainers and misdirecting and misinforming people. icon_mad.gif
    so you blame the individual for you being gullible instead of asking for evidence.
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:02 PM GMT
    Ohno saidStrangers using steroids are probably the biggest cause of body dysmorphia in men.
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:06 PM GMT
    BP201 saidBody image.
    Especially in the gay community, where so many gay teens suffer from eating disorders, or whatever the hell else, wanting to look like these UNnatural bodies.

    I personally don't care. IT makes me feel a little about myself and my efforts knowing a guy uses roids to achieve their goals while I don't.
    so everyone should feel pitty for allowing teens to be followers and not leaders. how exactly does it make you feel better than the other guy? I've always wanted to know the reason why natural or unnatural made a difference in the value of a person
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:09 PM GMT
    Edward89 saidBecause i don't need to supplement my body. I'm fine with what i got

    No offense to whoever is into that though
    that's great. but I'm asking. why do people care what others do? basically
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:13 PM GMT
    swimguychicago saidI take steroids that my doctor prescribed for me, so I feel absolutely NO guilt. He said Androgel would help me to build muscle and it has. The DEA tested it, it's safe, and it doesn't support the black market economy so what's the problem?
    legality is a touchy point since they kill people everyday with their billion dollar pharmaceutical industry and it's approved and legal. everybody contributes to the black market in one way or another. business people are the most common thief's know to man.
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:15 PM GMT
    MikeVmax saidPeople like belittling others to feel better about themselves. Gotta tell people their life choices are horrible in order to make yours seem better!

    If you want to get all indignant about gay guys using drugs bitch about crystal meth. Roids will never fuck you up as much as it will.
    icon_lol.gif very good point I never hear anything bad about meth or those other party and play drugs. yet having a face that looks half pepperoni and walking dead is ok as long as you aren't on steroids.
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:22 PM GMT
    KBM13 saidDespite being 'performance enhancing', the negatives of anabolic steroids outweighs the positives about it significantly. Steroids can damage the linings of your smooth muscles and the loose connective tissues, like the reticular and cuboidal cells in your kidneys/liver (both are responsible for filtration) because of the sudden increase in levels of testosterone. Anabolic steroids can also cause problems with your cardiac muscle tissues and the intercalated discs that help control the contractions of your ventricles in your heart, specifically the left ventricle, which has the deoxygenated blood. Anabolic steroids also negatively effect the growth of your bones and can cause dependency, leading to secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex: enlarged breasts, atrophy of the penis, baldness, etc. Also, anabolic steroids increase cholesterol levels (steroids are fats , and excess fats turn areolar connective tissue, due to mesenchymal cells, into adipose tissues which contains a lot of energy and is hard to burn).

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    Great technical breakdown and answer. But why does it have a personal effect to your day to day life what another is doing? people drink alcohol and nothing is positive about it yet the only problem people have with it is driving drunk. Instead of the liver damage and other actual issue. everybody is going to die no matter what. Why waste time being concerned about other peoples choice to do steroids if not doing them still kills you?
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:30 PM GMT
    People probably "hate" them because you can die from them for one, men lie and say they're natural, and men are naturally competitive so young boys looking at these fake health magazines where there's a jacked guy who may not even be natural, does harm the community.

    The whole "feeling pity for teens", you shouldn't feel pity. but it is pretty sad when teens whom by that age are probably forced to view thousands and thousands of different forms of media and advertisement, develop a poor self concept; it's kind of cruel to have no compassion for a young person trying to grow up and learn what's needed to be a real man, and that he has to endanger his health to look a certain way. Half these kids may not even have male role models/fathers, or maybe they have abusive or dysfunctional relationships with men, so just "knowing" how to be happy with himself may not be such a simple thing for many, everyone is different and life affects each person differently.

    You shouldn't hate anyone really, but it's not surprising why men on roids aren't revered and liked by many people. Also, just because other issues overshadow this one like one meth or crack, doesn't mean this isn't a valid issue to be concerned with.
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:37 PM GMT
    KBM13 saidDespite being 'performance enhancing', the negatives of anabolic steroids outweighs the positives about it significantly. Steroids can damage the linings of your smooth muscles and the loose connective tissues, like the reticular and cuboidal cells in your kidneys/liver (both are responsible for filtration) because of the sudden increase in levels of testosterone. Anabolic steroids can also cause problems with your cardiac muscle tissues and the intercalated discs that help control the contractions of your ventricles in your heart, specifically the left ventricle, which has the deoxygenated blood. Anabolic steroids also negatively effect the growth of your bones and can cause dependency, leading to secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex: enlarged breasts, atrophy of the penis, baldness, etc. Also, anabolic steroids increase cholesterol levels (steroids are fats , and excess fats turn areolar connective tissue, due to mesenchymal cells, into adipose tissues which contains a lot of energy and is hard to burn).

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    Steroids DO NOT cause atrophy of the penis. This is the single biggest misconception about steroid use. It can cause atrophy of the testicles becuse the body is tricked into shutting down testosterone production due to the synthetic testosterone being injected into the body. This typically happens with people who either don't cycle properly or far exceed their dosage.

    Other than this and that your assertion that steroids are fats when they're actually cholesterol, you nailed the side effects.
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    Feb 08, 2014 12:54 PM GMT
    SigmaX saidPeople probably "hate" them because you can die from them for one, men lie and say they're natural, and men are naturally competitive so young boys looking at these fake health magazines where there's a jacked guy who may not even be natural, does harm the community.

    The whole "feeling pity for teens", you shouldn't feel pity. but it is pretty sad when teens whom by that age are probably forced to view thousands and thousands of different forms of media and advertisement, develop a poor self concept; it's kind of cruel to have no compassion for a young person trying to grow up and learn what's needed to be a real man, and that he has to endanger his health to look a certain way. Half these kids may not even have male role models/fathers, or maybe they have abusive or dysfunctional relationships with men, so just "knowing" how to be happy with himself may not be such a simple thing for many, everyone is different and life affects each person differently.

    You shouldn't hate anyone really, but it's not surprising why men on roids aren't revered and liked by many people. Also, just because other issues overshadow this one like one meth or crack, doesn't mean this isn't a valid issue to be concerned with.
    society is weak if I should feel pity for someone who has those living situations as a valid excuse to be a follower. I didn't have most of the stiff you mentioned. I would think more of that as lazy parenting and not a issue with the media. way to many kids not being taught anything by there parents but instead letting the tv do it then bitching about the outcome.
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    Feb 08, 2014 6:18 PM GMT
    It's sort of a Shangri-La effect -- men are fine as long as they keep using them, but if they stop, they wither and fade away.

    An actual teenage boy:

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    Hollywood's idea of a teenage boy:

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    Feb 08, 2014 6:26 PM GMT
    The demonization of steroids, part 1

    The demonization of steroids, part 2
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    Feb 08, 2014 9:38 PM GMT
    shaggyfromscoobydooisgay said
    beefyhungone said
    shaggyfromscoobydooisgay saiddon't care about steroids. just hate how you have some dudes out there that are using them THEN turning around talking about "i'm natural. i did it all by myself. you can get this way too without using steroids" then becoming fitness trainers and misdirecting and misinforming people. icon_mad.gif
    so you blame the individual for you being gullible instead of asking for evidence.


    what? where in that did i blame the people for being gullible for being manipulated by these corny ass roid using liars that claim that they're "natural bodybuilders" or "natural" and the fitness industry that uses those same liars to promote their supplements, protein powders, fitness plans, gyms and etc?

    shit is SO bad that the lies have become a crucial part of the fitness/bodybuilding industry business model. you have people thinking that a roided up physique or some unnatural/unhealthy/abnormal/genetic freak physique is what the human body is naturally supposed to be look like that. most importantly, you have the fitness industry promoting the misconception about the way a physique looks being a proper indicator for how healthy one is when that's not true. got these folks thinking they don't need to go to a doctor to get regular checkups, get blood work done if they look diesel. the crazy thing is that everything is all connected because it soon becomes a norm in society where miseducation and misinformation becomes a way of life. folks think that if their abs aren't showing or muscles aren't poking out that they're obese. they don't know about body fat and then on top of that, you have the fitness industry giving huge misinformation about healthy body fat percentage totals talking about it's healthy to have 3% body fat.

    that's why we got these kids that aren't even teenagers with eating disorders and etc. they grow up with bullshit pushed in their face to the point where they think that's the way it is because the people that came before them were brainwashed into that hogwash bullshit too.

    you know shit has hit the fans when you see this.



    WTF.
    all you did was blame them fir you believing what they tell you. who's really at blame the person telling a obvious lie or the person willing to believe it?
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    Feb 08, 2014 9:41 PM GMT
    Elusium saidIt's sort of a Shangri-La effect -- men are fine as long as they keep using them, but if they stop, they wither and fade away.

    An actual teenage boy:

    teen%2Bboy.JPG

    Hollywood's idea of a teenage boy:

    tyler-hoechlin-derek-hale-teen-wolf.jpg
    let's be honest I never saw a 13 year old kid like in your first picture in high school but I have seen kids look 25 like the guy in yhe second picture. don't use such a extreme age difference to explain your point.
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    Feb 09, 2014 2:07 AM GMT
    I don't hate them. But I do feel annoyed, when you've been going to the gym for 7-8 months, and then someone younger starts gym and by the third or fourth month, it looks like he's been lifting for years. Plus, some users get filled with attitude, rather that confidence. Then the annoying habit of checking mirror after every freaking set. True story.
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    Feb 09, 2014 2:08 AM GMT
    123triston saidI don't hate them. But I do feel annoyed, when you've been going to the gym for 7-8 months, and then someone younger starts gym and by the third or fourth month, it looks like he's been lifting for years. True story.


    They won't sustain that without knowing the proper lifting/dieting techniques. They only hurt themseles so don't worry about them.
  • MKnight

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    Feb 09, 2014 2:11 AM GMT
    personally i want to use them at the age of 21, at this time i'm just learning and reading a lot meanwhile. but later I want to use them because I think they would help me gaining muscle and in my professional performance.
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    Feb 09, 2014 2:26 AM GMT
    KBM13 saidDespite being 'performance enhancing', the negatives of anabolic steroids outweighs the positives about it significantly. Steroids can damage the linings of your smooth muscles and the loose connective tissues, like the reticular and cuboidal cells in your kidneys/liver (both are responsible for filtration) because of the sudden increase in levels of testosterone. Anabolic steroids can also cause problems with your cardiac muscle tissues and the intercalated discs that help control the contractions of your ventricles in your heart, specifically the left ventricle, which has the deoxygenated blood. Anabolic steroids also negatively effect the growth of your bones and can cause dependency, leading to secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex: enlarged breasts, atrophy of the penis, baldness, etc. Also, anabolic steroids increase cholesterol levels (steroids are fats , and excess fats turn areolar connective tissue, due to mesenchymal cells, into adipose tissues which contains a lot of energy and is hard to burn).

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    This (except for the penis atrophy and that the left ventricle doesn't pump deoxygenated blood, but oxygenated)...
    redsoxfan791 saidSteroids DO NOT cause atrophy of the penis. This is the single biggest misconception about steroid use. It can cause atrophy of the testicles becuse the body is tricked into shutting down testosterone production due to the synthetic testosterone being injected into the body. This typically happens with people who either don't cycle properly or far exceed their dosage.

    Other than this and that your assertion that steroids are fats when they're actually cholesterol, you nailed the side effects.

    ...and that (except for cholesterol is a kind of fat).


    I don't hate guys who use them, I hate guys who lie about it and deny the consequences.
    But I've ranted about that on too many other threads by now.