Why is there so much hate in the world? Will it get better or is just human nature?

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    Feb 08, 2014 5:57 PM GMT
    So my little cousin who is 7 asked me that question and I didn't really know how to answer it and her parents didn't really know how to answer it either .

    Now that I thought about it ,I think Faith and Hope maybe the reason behind the hate in the world. since these two things are hardly individualized, and if people dont share those things it usually results in conflict.icon_question.gif


    might sound silly but oh well

    so what do you reckon is the reason behind the hate in the world ? Will it ever get better or is just human nature?

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    Feb 08, 2014 6:55 PM GMT
    I heard from scientists that if there is intelligent life out there more advanced than us on earth that they most likely would tend to be violent or destructive towards us. So I'm thinking that with billions of people in this world, it is doubtful that hate would stop.
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    Feb 08, 2014 11:19 PM GMT
    bradomo saidI heard from scientists that if there is intelligent life out there more advanced than us on earth that they most likely would tend to be violent or destructive towards us. So I'm thinking that with billions of people in this world, it is doubtful that hate would stop.

    Making it all the more inane to send that voyager craft into space, telling them where we are.
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    Feb 09, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
    Dr. Joyce Brothers once said one off the most insightful things I ever heard.
    "In order for people to have a feeling of *us* they have to have a feeling of *them*."
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    Feb 09, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
    All the people that scream out for acceptance, but do not accept anthers difference.
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    Feb 09, 2014 12:24 AM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie saidAll the people that scream out for acceptance, but do not accept anthers difference.

    Gee... where does *that* sort of thing happen? icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 09, 2014 1:18 AM GMT
    When we succeed in destroying this planet and all its inhabitants, hatred will be eradicated.
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    Feb 09, 2014 1:26 AM GMT
    It'll get better after the rapture. We need to clear this place out a little.
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    Feb 09, 2014 2:21 AM GMT
    Well, here are all the answers.
    Just click on the various links...
    Why do blacks and whites hate each other?
    Why do Christians and Jews hate each other?
    Why do people hate people who like the the French?
    Why do the French hate American Indians?
    Why do Amercans hate Atheists?
    ...
    Then they finish with "Movie Lines People Get Wrong"

    Hello?

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_people_hate_other_people
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    Feb 09, 2014 2:43 AM GMT
    It's human nature basically, there's hate in the world to balance out the *Love in the world. Everything has its yin/yang, positive/negative, good/evil.
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    Feb 09, 2014 2:47 AM GMT
    socalx10 saidIt's human nature basically, there's hate in the world to balance out the *Love in the world. Everything has its yin/yang, positive/negative, good/evil.

    Do you think we can convince all the haters to move to one side of the world and all the rest to move to the other icon_evil.gif
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    Feb 09, 2014 3:02 AM GMT
    Although it is human nature, hate is no more powerful than any other aspect of our being. Curiosity, hope, faith, love - they are all parts of human nature. We cannot have the good without the bad. Ultimately, it is up to each of us to recognize the hatred in ourselves; the path to destruction or salvation is within every choice, it is up to us to determine which path we choose.

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    Feb 09, 2014 3:03 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    socalx10 saidIt's human nature basically, there's hate in the world to balance out the *Love in the world. Everything has its yin/yang, positive/negative, good/evil.

    Do you think we can convince all the haters to move to one side of the world and all the rest to move to the other icon_evil.gif


    We can round them up and ship them off to *Haters Island or Siberia. icon_biggrin.gif
  • MikeW

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    Feb 09, 2014 4:35 AM GMT
    You're asking about hate… where does it come from. Is it "human nature" (instinctual). Put another way, is hate something that is NOT learned?

    I would argue that hate *is* learned and, therefore, is not "human nature" in the sense of "instinct" (something we would all be born with regardless of any other variable).

    If "hate" isn't "human nature" then where does it come from?

    I believe it comes from "pain" and "fear" which, arguably, *is* instinctual. This gets a little complicated but basically we're born with reactions to certain stimuli. A loud noise, a sudden flash of light, physical pain, etc., can trigger a reactive (turn of the head, closing of the eyes, flight, retracting of the limbs, etc.) reflex in an infant. Such reflexes are hard wired, not learned. Every human being is hard wired to react to these stimuli the same.

    There's also "rage." Don't know if any of you have seen an infant become 'apoplectic' or have a 'fit' of extreme anger. Usually this is brought on by extreme or prolonged discomfort, pain and/or frightening situations. Infants in such states are inconsolable and out of control.

    So I mention these because reactions to pain, fear and, in extremes, rage *ARE* part of human nature. We're born with these reflexive reactions.

    "Hate," however, is something that is learned because it associated with a specific 'object' (idea) that is hated. The learning associated with "hate" (perceiving something as a potential threat that must be shunned and/or reacted to violently) begins very early in life and may not be consciously or intentionally 'taught' by the parents or society around the developing child. But these attitudes are 'picked up' very easily by observing how others around one 'react' to certain things.

    The amount of emotion behind "hate" -- where it goes beyond fear and/or dislike to a distaste that goes up the scale of reaction to full-blown violence and an attempt to destroy the perceived threat -- often comes not from direct experience, but from projecting repressed emotions onto the 'object' of hate. For example, someone may be violently homophobic but have had no experience with homosexuals at all. This extreme fear/rage, however, does come from early childhood experiences (we all have them). That is to say, we all have existed as infants in states of total vulnerability and have experienced being in a world that is 100% beyond our understanding and control. We have experienced the terror and pain of this existence and had no way of understanding these emotions. So, they are there, latent within us.

    This latent emotional energy becomes 'focused' through learning onto a specific target that is 'hated'.

    That's not to say there can't be real-world experiences that reinforce the 'reason' for the hatred. Of course there can be. But what I'm pointing out is, there need not be for it to occur.

    So… Hate is not human nature.

    Will it ever get any better?

    This is where it gets very interesting because the answer to that question is, well, that's up to us. You and I. Everyone here.

    Most of us here know that we can not change another person -- that the only person we *can* change is ourselves, and even that is far more difficult than one would think. But it *can* happen. We can change. I can not stop another person from 'hating' me. However, I can have at least SOME control over how I react to that 'hate'.

    This, I think, is the only hope we (humanity) have.
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    Feb 09, 2014 4:41 AM GMT


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker
    Steven Arthur Pinker (born September 18, 1954) is a Canadian experimental psychologist, cognitive scientist, linguist, and popular science author. He is a Harvard College Professor and the Johnstone Family Professor in the Department of Psychology at Harvard University,[3] and is known for his advocacy of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/22/world-less-violent-stats_n_1026723.html
    World Becoming Less Violent: Despite Global Conflict, Statistics Show Violence In Steady Decline
  • Montague

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    Feb 09, 2014 4:44 AM GMT
    It will never get better. It's just going to happen and there's nothing you can do about it.
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    Feb 09, 2014 4:45 AM GMT
    I dont really know the reason but from my experience being involved in a DTA ( dont trust anybody) style of business, all i can say is embrace the hate . Use it to make you better. I used to try to please everyone and their grandma and I was miserable now with a chip on my shoulder i feel more in control. Use your haters to motivate you . Since no matter what we do we will always live in a world of hate use it to your advantage .
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    Feb 09, 2014 5:32 AM GMT
    MikeW said

    I believe it comes from "pain" and "fear" which, arguably, *is* instinctual. This gets a little complicated but basically we're born with reactions to certain stimuli. A loud noise, a sudden flash of light, physical pain, etc., can trigger a reactive (turn of the head, closing of the eyes, flight, retracting of the limbs, etc.) reflex in an infant. Such reflexes are hard wired, not learned. Every human being is hard wired to react to these stimuli the same.



    Makes me think though... If hatred stems for pain and fear, then we are all born into "hate" at its purest. As much as we "learn" what hate is as we grow, we also learn to filter that hatred and differentiate between varying levels of pain and fear; we can categorize pain and fear and determine what to hate and what not to hate.

    There is no filter for an infant. Childbirth is one of the most painful and fearful experiences that is also one we ALL experience. And we are all born into pain and fear - hate. It is all instinct - pure pain, pure fear, and so, pure hate...
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    Feb 09, 2014 5:37 AM GMT
    As long as we have have religion, there will be hate. It's just that simple.
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    Feb 09, 2014 6:02 AM GMT
    MikeW said"Hate," however, is something that is learned because it associated with a specific 'object' (idea) that is hated. The learning associated with "hate" (perceiving something as a potential threat that must be shunned and/or reacted to violently) begins very early in life and may not be consciously or intentionally 'taught' by the parents or society around the developing child. But these attitudes are 'picked up' very easily by observing how others around one 'react' to certain things.

    That's an interesting perspective, and I think you may be right. We don't teach our children to hate; we just teach them what to hate.

    But there are always exceptions. Somehow, I did not learn what to hate from my parents or, for that matter, from the community in which I grew up.
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    Feb 09, 2014 6:09 AM GMT
    I thought the Left had abolished the Fall and Original Sin . . . no?


    ah, No . . . they are rubes without a coherent world view, and they are complicit in countless genocides
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    Feb 09, 2014 6:12 AM GMT
    Apex0111 said
    MikeW said
    I believe it comes from "pain" and "fear" which, arguably, *is* instinctual. This gets a little complicated but basically we're born with reactions to certain stimuli. A loud noise, a sudden flash of light, physical pain, etc., can trigger a reactive (turn of the head, closing of the eyes, flight, retracting of the limbs, etc.) reflex in an infant. Such reflexes are hard wired, not learned. Every human being is hard wired to react to these stimuli the same.

    Makes me think though... If hatred stems for pain and fear, then we are all born into "hate" at its purest. As much as we "learn" what hate is as we grow, we also learn to filter that hatred and differentiate between varying levels of pain and fear; we can categorize pain and fear and determine what to hate and what not to hate.

    There is no filter for an infant. Childbirth is one of the most painful and fearful experiences that is also one we ALL experience. And we are all born into pain and fear - hate. It is all instinct - pure pain, pure fear, and so, pure hate...

    I agree with everything except at the point where you equate pain and fear with hate. To my mind pain, fear, even rage, and even at their extreme like childbirth (which is akin to excruciating torture and death) is not "hate" because there is no identified 'object' or 'focus' of an 'other' that is hated.

    These experiences are intense but they are also 'neutral' … not quite sure how to express what I mean … like they include my whole sense of self but nothing specifically outside myself. So nothing 'objectified' that "I" can "hate". That comes later, when the "self" becomes identified as a 'something' separate from an 'not self' or other.

    Does that make sense?

    Like, I remember being a very young child, learning to talk, sitting on the floral carpet on the living room floor. My imagination had learned to repeat the sounds I heard around me, like the sound of my mother's voice. But now 'I' was beginning to have a voice, too, and I began to 'hear' (imagine) the sound of my *own* voice. This was a game and within a very short time "I" experienced myself AS that voice. IOW, the voice and me were the same thing. BUT prior to that there was a being but no "I" separate a such.

    I know this is all very weird and, for me, long, long ago, so hard to remember exactly how it all worked. BUT I DO KNOW THIS, we all experience great pain and suffering as infant children, no matter what. But we survive, in part, by suppressing these experiences -- as if none of that happened (but it did and it left its scars in us). SO… often times what becomes "hate" is the fear of all that coming back -- that total loss of control that signifies death.
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    Feb 09, 2014 6:42 AM GMT
    That was kind of my point, I think. Pain and fear, from birth, are inescapable for every person on the planet. It is inevitable that we will all know hate. What I am saying is that while hate itself may just be a concept, it is not something new... When we "learn" it, it is not unfamiliar to us; it has just been given a name, a title.

    So maybe HATE itself may not be considered human nature, but it is an inevitability of the human condition.
  • MikeW

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    Feb 09, 2014 6:52 AM GMT
    Apex0111 saidSo maybe HATE itself may not be considered human nature, but it is an inevitability of the human condition.

    For sure pain and suffering is inevitable, unavoidable. But is hate? I see what you mean, it certainly looks inevitable because of all the suffering we endure.

    The seeds are definitely there and this is true for everyone, everywhere. But we are complicated beings. We don't just stay at the infantile level. We grow, adapt, learn, mature and change. Experiencing pain and suffering may not be a choice, but turning that into hate -- and thus perpetuating and increasing pain and suffering -- is a choice.