Congrats to Micahel Sam, Openly Gay soon-to-be NFL Football Player

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    Feb 10, 2014 1:20 AM GMT
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-missouri-tigers/
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    Feb 10, 2014 1:24 AM GMT
    Alllllll RIGHTIE then!
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    Feb 10, 2014 1:28 AM GMT
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/10/sports/michael-sam-college-football-star-says-he-is-gay-ahead-of-nfl-draft.html?hp&_r=0

    NY TimesAs the pace of the gay rights movement has accelerated drastically in recent years, the sports industry has seen relatively little change, with no publicly gay male athletes in the N.F.L., the N.B.A., the N.H.L. or Major League Baseball. Against this backdrop, Mr. Sam could become a symbol for the country’s gay rights movement or a flashpoint in a football culture war — or both.

    Mr. Sam, 24, is projected to be chosen in the early rounds of the N.F.L. draft in May, ordinarily an invitation to a prosperous professional career. He said he decided to come out publicly now because he sensed that rumors were circulating.

    “I just want to make sure I could tell my story the way I want to tell it,” said Mr. Sam, who also spoke with ESPN on Sunday. “I just want to own my truth.”
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    Feb 10, 2014 1:28 AM GMT
    I've watched this guy play. He's a beast on the football field.
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    Feb 10, 2014 1:29 AM GMT
    Just saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.

    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?
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    Feb 10, 2014 1:35 AM GMT
    sorry, Metta beat me to this! icon_biggrin.gif

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    Feb 10, 2014 1:39 AM GMT
    dayumm saidsorry, Metta beat me to this! icon_biggrin.gif

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    We have a football forum?
    Live and learn.
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    Feb 10, 2014 1:42 AM GMT
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.

    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?


    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.
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    Feb 10, 2014 1:46 AM GMT
    Wow! Awesome!
  • WhoDey

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    Feb 10, 2014 2:01 AM GMT
    Now this is a big breakthrough! Not the divers, volleyball players, and D-III kickers you guys post on here. Congrats!
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    Feb 10, 2014 2:40 AM GMT
    RunnerMD saidWow! Awesome!


    Sure is!
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    Feb 10, 2014 2:49 AM GMT
    Erik101 said
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.
    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?

    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.

    I think teammates are much more accepting than management or the public.
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    Feb 10, 2014 5:07 AM GMT
    JohnSpotter said
    Erik101 said
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.
    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?

    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.

    I think teammates are much more accepting than management or the public.


    And what makes you think this?
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    Feb 10, 2014 5:41 AM GMT
    JohnSpotter said
    Erik101 said
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.
    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?

    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.

    I think teammates are much more accepting than management or the public.


    you sure about that?


    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--report--niners-cb-says-openly-gay-players-would-not-be-welcomed-on-the-team-190346715.html

    Niners CB says openly gay players would not be welcomed on the team
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    Feb 10, 2014 7:11 AM GMT
    monstapex said
    JohnSpotter said
    Erik101 said
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.
    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?

    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.

    I think teammates are much more accepting than management or the public.


    you sure about that?


    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--report--niners-cb-says-openly-gay-players-would-not-be-welcomed-on-the-team-190346715.html

    Niners CB says openly gay players would not be welcomed on the team

    im sure 1 more person speaks for the entire NFL. Also, this was more than a year ago.
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    Feb 10, 2014 7:33 AM GMT
    great stuff taking it back to the times like it was in ancient Greece, when guys where men, into sport , fighting, and could kick ass .
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    Feb 10, 2014 8:16 AM GMT
    sanjose408 said
    monstapex said
    JohnSpotter said
    Erik101 said
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.
    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?

    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.

    I think teammates are much more accepting than management or the public.


    you sure about that?


    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--report--niners-cb-says-openly-gay-players-would-not-be-welcomed-on-the-team-190346715.html

    Niners CB says openly gay players would not be welcomed on the team

    im sure 1 more person speaks for the entire NFL. Also, this was more than a year ago.


    This will be interesting to watch… This is from the Huffington Post article.

    Several unnamed NFL personnel members interviewed by Sports Illustrated after Sam's announcement believed that coming out would adversely affect his draft stock.

    "I don't think football is ready for [an openly gay player] just yet," an anonymous NFL player personnel assistant said, reported Pete Thamel and Thayer Evans of Sports Illustrated. "In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's-man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."

    The general manager of one NFL team told Peter King of Sports Illustrated that he believed Sam would not even be drafted after coming out. Meanwhile, GLAAD President Sarah Kate Ellis contended that the leadership displayed by Sam should make teams eager to have him on the roster.
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    Feb 10, 2014 9:41 AM GMT
    kt8320 said
    sanjose408 said
    monstapex said
    JohnSpotter said
    Erik101 said
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.
    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?

    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.

    I think teammates are much more accepting than management or the public.


    you sure about that?


    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--report--niners-cb-says-openly-gay-players-would-not-be-welcomed-on-the-team-190346715.html

    Niners CB says openly gay players would not be welcomed on the team

    im sure 1 more person speaks for the entire NFL. Also, this was more than a year ago.


    This will be interesting to watch… This is from the Huffington Post article.

    Several unnamed NFL personnel members interviewed by Sports Illustrated after Sam's announcement believed that coming out would adversely affect his draft stock.

    "I don't think football is ready for [an openly gay player] just yet," an anonymous NFL player personnel assistant said, reported Pete Thamel and Thayer Evans of Sports Illustrated. "In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's-man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."

    The general manager of one NFL team told Peter King of Sports Illustrated that he believed Sam would not even be drafted after coming out. Meanwhile, GLAAD President Sarah Kate Ellis contended that the leadership displayed by Sam should make teams eager to have him on the roster.
    LOL @ "the anonymous NFL player personnel assistant" who apparently missed the memo that Michael Sam came out to his team last summer. And we never even heard a word about it (presumably because Missouri players were too busy kicking ass on the football field).
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    Feb 10, 2014 11:02 AM GMT
    WhoDey saidNow this is a big breakthrough! Not the divers, volleyball players, and D-III kickers you guys post on here. Congrats!


    Congrats! Handsome man too!! I hope the Eagles draft him! Speaking of divers, he did date a diver on the Mizzou swim team according to the NY Times.
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    Feb 10, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
    monstapex said
    Niners CB says openly gay players would not be welcomed on the team


    that's just becuz they're an all closeted gay team.
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    Feb 10, 2014 3:53 PM GMT
    Yeah, but what if that gay athlete checks out my dick in the shower? What will I do then?
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    Feb 10, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
    Erik101 said
    JohnSpotter said
    Erik101 said
    eb925guy saidJust saw this. I think his coming out publicly before the NFL draft will be interesting. Sort of takes off some of the pressure and allows everyone to prepare for any of the response that they might encounter once (or if) he is drafted.
    Wonder how many teams will pass on his athleticism due to his sexuality?

    If he gets drafted, I'll be more concerned about how he'll be treated in the locker room.

    I think teammates are much more accepting than management or the public.


    And what makes you think this?

    The press likes to publish comments that garnish attention. I think most guys in the locker room could care less if the gay player is doing his job and isn't purposely offending the privacy of others. Sure there will be the occasional asshole that decides he's macho and doesn't want a gay looking at him, so he can do the towel dance in the locker room while the rest are showing that all guys look the same and who cares if one is gay or not.

    I think this is a good way for the NFL (and other major leagues) to work slowing into acceptance. Having a known gay who's a phenomenal player join a major league team starts an integration that, in my opinion, will be a non-issue very quickly. Others will follow, some will come out and eventually it won't even make the bi-lines of the local new rag. YAY, we will have accomplished yet another move towards being just another guy.
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    Feb 10, 2014 6:11 PM GMT
    ViciousRumor saidI read an article with a bunch of unnamed sports executives saying they think this could affect his chances. I sincerely hope it does not because I personally believe that the sportsworld is the final frontier for us. Once we can show people 'Yes we're here too!' either they'll get over it or they will leave.


    I so want to take those NFL execs and their (anonymous) words at face value. Yet, I like big buts and a I cannot lie, and there's a BIG OL' BUT to recognize here. And that 'BUT' calls itself Gamesmanship.

    This time of year, teams are sending out whispers through the media that players are NOT as good as the popular opinion has indicated they were. Suddenly, questions about their "motor", their "attitude", their "aptitude", their "hunger for the game", drop out of the freaking sky, and the sports media runs with it all to make teams' alleged displeasure common knowledge.

    They are saying such things not because they dislike Michael Sam. His value was already depressed because he's not an NFL prototype for the DE position and teams prefer him to be ready to play OLB from the jump. They want to depress his draft value even further, so OTHER teams shy away from him, and so he falls in their lap and they can parade him around as a "steal."

    This is happening right now for players perceived to be worthy of the very top pick in the draft. Every year, "hit pieces" come out telling us why "sources" think, for example, Jadaveon Clowney doesn't have the desire to even play football, or Cam Newton lacks the mental fortitude to lead a team to the playoffs.

    You hear none of such talk as these players are starring and leading teams in college; only after they declare for the NFL Draft (NBA does it, as I'm sure MLB and NHL does, too). Those "sources" never have to attach their names to what they say. They just poison-pill a player's prospects, and hope he drops to where they can just pick him without having to trade up to get him.

    Why draft a guy like Michael Sam in the 3rd round and (importantly) pay him 3rd round money, if, by instilling fear or hesitancy in enough competitor teams, you can address bigger needs in the 3rd round and wait for him to be available in the 4th or even 5th? That is what I'm really hearing when "whispers" suggest he won't even get drafted solely because he confirmed what many already knew or suspected.

    It is very likely that these guys are not out to convince you or I that Michael Sam is not worthy of being drafted. Instead, many are out to trick the GMs and opposing war rooms of opposing teams. So Michael Sam can fall to them instead, at a nice, cheap price for his true value.
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    Feb 10, 2014 6:33 PM GMT
    People at my job have been talking about it all morning. Everyone's response has been to the effect of, "I can't believe people still have problems with gay people today" and "I hope this soon becomes a non issue". One guy said, "the fact that this is on the news seems embarrassing for a country as advanced as ours. It makes you shake your head. He's gay, not a terrorist".
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    Feb 10, 2014 6:39 PM GMT
    This is such great news! If he is hired in the NFL for his merits we will know that civil rights really have progressed far. If he is not, it will be a black eye on professional sports for blatant discrimination. Let's hope for the best!