Kent State suspends wrestler Sam Wheeler indefinitely for anti-gay tweets

  • monstapex

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    Feb 11, 2014 5:46 AM GMT
    http://www.examiner.com/article/kent-state-suspends-wrestler-sam-wheeler-indefinitely-for-anti-gay-tweets
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    Feb 11, 2014 2:27 PM GMT
    I'm glad that he now has to pay for using those words and that indefinite suspension is the penalty. This will teach other sports players that using such slurs in public or private means isn't a smart idea.
  • jdotr_2

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    Feb 11, 2014 2:33 PM GMT
    Good. The kid needs to learn to better represent the university for which he competes in a better light. Good on the university for their decision.
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    Feb 11, 2014 2:34 PM GMT
    Good for the school. He has the freedom of speech to say ignorant things and the school has the freedom of speech to respond by saying, "we no longer endorse you". I do think he should get somewhat of a break over time because he is young. Everyone deserves to learn from their mistakes.
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    Feb 11, 2014 3:12 PM GMT
    Good on the University... Assholes like him should feel the repercussions.. I doubt he feels remorseful though....
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    Feb 11, 2014 3:15 PM GMT
    Fivealive saidGood on the University... Assholes like him should feel the repercussions.. I doubt he feels remorseful though....


    He's remorseful because he got caught...
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    Feb 11, 2014 3:21 PM GMT
    Steel101 said
    Fivealive saidGood on the University... Assholes like him should feel the repercussions.. I doubt he feels remorseful though....


    He's remorseful because he got caught...


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    Feb 11, 2014 3:40 PM GMT
    OK, I'll catch some flack for this, and especially given my uber-liberal, uber-gay stance on other matters. But...

    I'd have spoken with him (as the head coach appears to have done), and if he seemed genuinely remorseful, and promised to refrain from these slurs in the future, suspended him for just a few games. A recurrence would get him permanently kicked out of the Kent State sports program.

    Seems they used the sledge hammer before the slap. Of course, maybe he was defiant with the coach, I don't know all this. But that's the scenario I'd rather have seen. I don't want gay issues to be used as bully issues, neither by us nor by them.
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    Feb 11, 2014 4:00 PM GMT
    yeah it is terrible !! bad bad bad !! but I for one think the punishment should suit the crime...put him in the ring with Darren Young !

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    Feb 11, 2014 4:14 PM GMT
    Jaggal said
    He's probably just an idiot, else he would go out and physically gay bash.

    Well, he's only 20. Born in Arizona, apparently raised partly in Ohio, with some time at the University of Oklahoma, my old alma mater. He's a product of his environment. So you correct the guy, you don't crush him.
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    Feb 11, 2014 5:15 PM GMT
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    Jaggal said
    He's probably just an idiot, else he would go out and physically gay bash.

    Well, he's only 20. Born in Arizona, apparently raised partly in Ohio, with some time at the University of Oklahoma, my old alma mater. He's a product of his environment. So you correct the guy, you don't crush him.


    sometimes you need to make an example of an asshole so others will learn, they'll find another wrestler
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    Feb 11, 2014 5:27 PM GMT
    I'm fine with the punishment. It's time that athletes are held accountable for their statements and their lapse in judgement. Sure it's a bit harsh but it's the penalty that will make him think a little next time he rips other people for things they've done.

    We've given some of these athletes way too many breaks just because they're good at what they do and they pull in bucks for the team. It's time they start to learn that as mentors and 'figures' that are in the public eye, there's a responsibility to show that you're worthy of that status. Accountability is something many more need to endure to learn life's tough lessons!
  • allatonce

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    Feb 11, 2014 5:45 PM GMT
    Good news! This is the exact type of response that combats homophobia in sports and sends a strong signal to all athletes that it isn't acceptable. I quit hockey when I was younger because I didn't feel comfortable in the lockeroom. In a gay league now and the environment is awesome.

    Considering joining a straight league and am hoping it will feel a lot different from what it was like when I was younger. Seems like we are making advances pretty fast in the last few years.
  • killercliche

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    Feb 11, 2014 7:01 PM GMT
    hmmmm college wrestler that hates the gays?

    #soundslikeaclosetcase2me
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    Feb 11, 2014 7:17 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Jaggal said
    He's probably just an idiot, else he would go out and physically gay bash.

    Well, he's only 20. Born in Arizona, apparently raised partly in Ohio, with some time at the University of Oklahoma, my old alma mater. He's a product of his environment. So you correct the guy, you don't crush him.


    You correct him by crushing him. Simple as that. Sorry, but the "I should have known better" or "I didn't know" excuses just aren't acceptable. In this day and age of media coverage, social media, etc, etc, any grown adult should be able to make conscious decisions on anything they say, and realize the impacts of their words. I don't care what the upbringing is. No one lives under a rock.
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    Feb 11, 2014 7:44 PM GMT
    SUCKS! I just went to his twitter (now suspended) to remind him he's the one wearing tights and rolling around with other hot guys...I knew his type growing up - the ones that gay bash are in fact gay themselves.
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    Feb 11, 2014 9:43 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidOK, I'll catch some flack for this, and especially given my uber-liberal, uber-gay stance on other matters. But...

    I'd have spoken with him (as the head coach appears to have done), and if he seemed genuinely remorseful, and promised to refrain from these slurs in the future, suspended him for just a few games. A recurrence would get him permanently kicked out of the Kent State sports program.

    Seems they used the sledge hammer before the slap. Of course, maybe he was defiant with the coach, I don't know all this. But that's the scenario I'd rather have seen. I don't want gay issues to be used as bully issues, neither by us nor by them.


    You won't catch flak from me. I agree 100 percent. Why would gays want to be identified with bullying in any manner? icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 12, 2014 2:53 AM GMT
    addidasboy saidSUCKS! I just went to his twitter (now suspended) to remind him he's the one wearing tights and rolling around with other hot guys...I knew his type growing up - the ones that gay bash are in fact gay themselves.

    HA! Good point...but I love those tights...hmmmm
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    Feb 12, 2014 4:08 AM GMT
    ECnAZ said
    ART_DECO said
    Jaggal said
    He's probably just an idiot, else he would go out and physically gay bash.

    Well, he's only 20. Born in Arizona, apparently raised partly in Ohio, with some time at the University of Oklahoma, my old alma mater. He's a product of his environment. So you correct the guy, you don't crush him.

    You correct him by crushing him. Simple as that. Sorry, but the "I should have known better" or "I didn't know" excuses just aren't acceptable. In this day and age of media coverage, social media, etc, etc, any grown adult should be able to make conscious decisions on anything they say, and realize the impacts of their words. I don't care what the upbringing is. No one lives under a rock.

    Actually some people DO live under rocks. Where they're fed a lot of anti-gay propaganda by family, friends, ministers, politicians, Fox News, Right Wing talk radio, all kinds of sources. At 20 your world view may still be very limited, and not through your own fault, but due to circumstances beyond your own control.

    Yeah, give this young man a good slap, get his attention, but don't crush him. Better to have a rehabilitated ally on our side, than a revenge-seeking victim. Let's be a little more sophisticated about how these situations are handled.
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    Feb 12, 2014 4:10 AM GMT
    As an Alumnus of Kent State....I am VERY PLEASED that the University took STRONG action against this neanderthal idiot. His comments are not representative of the very open and progressive student body, nor the
    administration of Kent.
    You should know that Kent is a BIG school....main campus has well over 20000 undergrad students....thousands more in graduate, medical and professional programs and another 15000 in branch campuses.....it is a BIG university.....and the 2nd largest student organization on campus is the KLGBTQ....Kent Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Student Center ....This young man has a lot to learn about life and the University he attends. Maybe this will get his attention.
    Thank you KSU for sending the message.....
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    Feb 12, 2014 4:25 AM GMT
    Standard operating procedure.. He's going to be forced to give a half-assed apology for offending anyone. Yup, not apologize for being a homophobic cunt. But apologize for anyone that disagrees with his sentiment. And the world will go on. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 12, 2014 4:47 AM GMT
    Or he could just transfer to Texas. icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 12, 2014 4:52 AM GMT
    xrichx saidStandard operating procedure.. He's going to be forced to give a half-assed apology for offending anyone. Yup, not apologize for being a homophobic cunt. But apologize for anyone that disagrees with his sentiment. And the world will go on. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Well, we've certainly seen that pattern before. US politicians especially have that routine perfected, along with other public figures.

    But in this particular case I'm still sticking with my view that this young man should have been disciplined less severely. Of course I hate homophobia, I say it here all the time. But the response should be proportionate to the offense, and suitable to the circumstances.

    Back when I had been in a position to discipline others, I gave the lightest punishments to the youngest and most junior, and the heaviest to the older and more senior. Yet sometimes in our US society it's the other way around, so that we see lengthy prison terms for the young poor, while the older wealthy get probation for the same crime.

    My feeling was that the young are still learning, while the older have already learned. Therefore, younger offenses are more likely stupid mistakes, while older offenses are more likely intentional acts.

    Make the kid pay for his stupidity to a point, help him to grow, but don't take away his dreams & future. I'm sure he got the message, loud & clear, as did everyone else on campus. Now after a suspension let him go back to wrestling.
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    Feb 12, 2014 6:18 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidStandard operating procedure.. He's going to be forced to give a half-assed apology for offending anyone. Yup, not apologize for being a homophobic cunt. But apologize for anyone that disagrees with his sentiment. And the world will go on. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Well, we've certainly seen that pattern before. US politicians especially have that routine perfected, along with other public figures.

    But in this particular case I'm still sticking with my view that this young man should have been disciplined less severely. Of course I hate homophobia, I say it here all the time. But the response should be proportionate to the offense, and suitable to the circumstances.

    Back when I had been in a position to discipline others, I gave the lightest punishments to the youngest and most junior, and the heaviest to the older and more senior. Yet sometimes in our US society it's the other way around, so that we see lengthy prison terms for the young poor, while the older wealthy get probation for the same crime.

    My feeling was that the young are still learning, while the older have already learned. Therefore, younger offenses are more likely stupid mistakes, while older offenses are more likely intentional acts.

    Make the kid pay for his stupidity to a point, help him to grow, but don't take away his dreams & future. I'm sure he got the message, loud & clear, as did everyone else on campus. Now after a suspension let him go back to wrestling.
    Like I said, he's going to issue an apology and he'll be back to rolling around with other guys in tights in no time. And he'll probably setup a private Twitter account next time. icon_lol.gif


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