The Dangers of being Body Beautiful!

  • Chainers

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    Feb 13, 2014 7:45 PM GMT
    I thought this article was interesting...

    Discuss?

    http://instinctmagazine.com/post/dangers-being-body-beautiful
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    Feb 13, 2014 7:47 PM GMT
    danger in being beautiful, impossible
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    Feb 13, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
    It's not the dangers of being body beautiful, it's the dangers of wanting to be.
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    Feb 13, 2014 7:57 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidIt's not the dangers of being body beautiful, it's the dangers of wanting to be.


    QFT! Listen to this man!
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidIt's not the dangers of being body beautiful, it's the dangers of wanting to be.


    So...you are saying that it is not the act of doing steroids that is dangerous, but the act of wanting to do steroids that is...?
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
    I thought that the "looking healthy doesn't necessarily mean being healthy" equation was old news. Even when steroids aren't involved!
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:02 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    JohnSpotter saidIt's not the dangers of being body beautiful, it's the dangers of wanting to be.


    So...you are saying that it is not the act of doing steroids that is dangerous, but the act of wanting to do steroids that is...?


    if steroids make one beautiful
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:08 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    JohnSpotter saidIt's not the dangers of being body beautiful, it's the dangers of wanting to be.


    So...you are saying that it is not the act of doing steroids that is dangerous, but the act of wanting to do steroids that is...?


    I think he's saying that people that are in the pursuit of being "body beautiful" are more likely to do steroids.
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:08 PM GMT
    the guy in the picture they use is beautiful icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:10 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    JohnSpotter saidIt's not the dangers of being body beautiful, it's the dangers of wanting to be.

    So...you are saying that it is not the act of doing steroids that is dangerous, but the act of wanting to do steroids that is...?

    Don't be silly.
    If you already had the body you wanted, you wouldn't be doing steroids.
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    Feb 13, 2014 9:32 PM GMT
    He hit the nail on the head for me; doing steroids for cosmetic reasons is simply foolish.

    I'd bet that the author of that article has been following the "why do you hate steroids" thread. I don't "hate" steroids, I just think that using them is foolish; similar to barebacking. The risks aren't worth it.
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    Feb 13, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
    I think it was an interesting article.

    IMO, the lengths to which some people will go to get big are ridiculous. But then again, swole-ness per se doesn't appeal to me, personally. And I'm a big believer in "my body, my choice."

    kiwiLifter saidHOWEVER, there is no reason an average genetics guy can not get to 200 pounds of jock/atheletic beef within a couple of years or even less using the right strength program and some grit.


    ROFL.
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    Feb 13, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
    kacho saidthe guy in the picture they use is beautiful icon_razz.gif


    The guy in the picture is the author, claiming that almost all underwear model use steroids and are unhealthy for it... looking like an underwear model.

    #makesyathink
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    Feb 13, 2014 10:11 PM GMT
    *scratches head* Gays only make up about 10% of the population. Those gyms would do just fine without them, which leads me to understand that there are obviously vast numbers of straight men and women keeping them afloat. '

    Look at the media's portrayal of straight men and women in movies, music, ads, etc. Buff. Fit. Pretty. Handsome.

    Our god kids, (girl and boy) are heavily into this as are their friends. They're all straight. Yes it's a problem of many gays (not all) and it's a problem with straights, too.

    Vanity is the property of no one, but is and has always been rather endemic to most.
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    Feb 13, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
    kiwiLifter said
    At 6" and 156 pounds, the sight of you rolling around on the floor would be hilarious, imagine all the noise from the bones clacking against each other! icon_lol.gif


    Yes, I do tend to have exactly that effect on people. How'd you "get" me so quickly? You are so smart and intuitive.
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    Feb 13, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    Broseph said
    kiwiLifter saidHOWEVER, there is no reason an average genetics guy can not get to 200 pounds of jock/atheletic beef within a couple of years or even less using the right strength program and some grit.


    So you're only 2 years away from having some size and definition in that bicep, ya say?


    ROFL. I was about to say....

    40, and too skeered to have a pic of anything of anything but a "bicep."
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    Feb 13, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
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    meninlove said *scratches head* Gays only make up about 10% of the population. Those gyms would do just fine without them, which leads me to understand that there are obviously vast numbers of straight men and women keeping them afloat. '

    Look at the media's portrayal of straight men and women in movies, music, ads, etc. Buff. Fit. Pretty. Handsome.

    Our god kids, (girl and boy) are heavily into this as are their friends. They're all straight. Yes it's a problem of many gays (not all) and it's a problem with straights, too.

    Vanity is the property of no one, but is and has always been rather endemic to most.


    Obesity and diabetes are problems.

    Being in good shape is not a problem.

    Funny how the only ones who see it as a problem are the skanks! icon_lol.gif


    I don't think you bothered to read the article, did you? icon_lol.gif

    Speaking of skanks..(admiring Mom's tablecloth pattern you tattooed on your arm) You have no pics up so it's humorous to see you critiquing anyone else's appearance.
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    Feb 13, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
    the original article is inferring having a beautiful body you MUST use drugs. If you just have the self pride to want to do it and with out drug use there is no risk.

    its the American way if you take care of your self
    -you will die of an eating disorder
    -you will gain the weight back so why try
    -accept your self as you are, dont aspire to be better
    -if you look/feel good there must be something bad that brings joy to the lazy people
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    Feb 13, 2014 11:07 PM GMT
    ViciousRumor saidKiwilifter if you honestly want to show the rest of it how it is done then why don't you actually post a picture of yourself. Otherwise everything you say is just ridiculous.


    I fixed-ed it. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 13, 2014 11:13 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    ViciousRumor saidKiwilifter if you honestly want to show the rest of it how it is done then why don't you actually post a picture of yourself. Otherwise everything you say is just ridiculous.


    I fixed-ed it. icon_biggrin.gif


    What was wrong with how I had it?


    It's humour, Rumour. icon_wink.gificon_wink.gif
  • Chainers

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    Feb 14, 2014 12:32 AM GMT
    pellaz saidthe original article is inferring having a beautiful body you MUST use drugs. If you just have the self pride to want to do it and with out drug use there is no risk.

    its the American way if you take care of your self
    -you will die of an eating disorder
    -you will gain the weight back so why try
    -accept your self as you are, dont aspire to be better
    -if you look/feel good there must be something bad that brings joy to the lazy people


    I think it is inferring that the standards we hold ourselves and others to is not possible without steroids. Whether or not you actually want a body that requires steroids is different, but many of the models, actors, and pornstars we want to emulate in looks requires the use of 'roids.

    Its not healthy icon_sad.gif
  • BloodFlame

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    Feb 14, 2014 2:51 AM GMT
    kiwiLifter saidI'm going to take on the "gays are obsessed with body beautiful" nonsense.

    The vast majority of gays look like crap - skinny or fat or toneless. I have zero respect or time for them, its annoying when they try to flirt "Hey you got a great body!", I sometimes reply "Thanks, only wish I could return the compliment."

    I CAN ONLY WISH that more fags really made an effort to get into shape. Even on RJ I see a lot of scrawny non jock specimens.

    Then there are the muscle marys and circuit party fags - those are the "healthy looking but actually very unhealthy" characters criticism has been rightly directed at.

    HOWEVER, there is no reason an average genetics guy can not get to 200 pounds of jock/atheletic beef within a couple of years or even less using the right strength program and some grit.




    As one of those "scrawny guys who look like crap", I'm just going to ring in here. I have no desire to become a big hulking guy. I like being slim and I do exercise to keep in shape as well as try to watch what I eat. Sure, I'm trying to put on a few pounds. I'm currently only 125 and want to at least get to 135 and tone but in no way do I want to be at 190.

    You have to realize whether you find it attractive or not, not all guys share the same goals with how they look. Some choose to be bigger and some choose to be leaner regardless if they get negative criticism. If these kinds of people bother you, just don't look at them, it's not hard and no one is forcing you to date people like us. Just stick to those who you like and everything works out for both parties.

    On topic - I think the steroid thing can be a double edged sword. Sure, they can help you to get bigger but is it worth the underlying health risks that might happen even if you use blockers. That right there is up to the individual himself. I won't say that people shouldn't take them because frankly, they should do as they please. It only gets annoying when they boast about themselves to those who choose to try and gain muscle the natural way. That's just obnoxious and rude.

    My brother has an acquaintance who is obsessed with working out and wants to take steroids. He shared with us that he started out the same weight I am (he's also my size) and he is up to about 160 but he wants to get to the 200 range and said he wanted to get there with steroids. The thing that kind of scared me is that my brother who is also a big workout guy wants to get past 200 too and is considering to take them.

    I just told him to be careful but yeah, I never really thought about steroids until I met this guy.

    I do have to agree though that when the media shows off the guys with the "perfect" bodies, it can be a bit damaging but eh,.. It's just part of life?
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    Feb 14, 2014 4:27 AM GMT
    The article seems a bit hypocritical...what with the picture of the author showing off his 'perfect' body in the shower, with his glistening muscles icon_rolleyes.gif
  • frogman89

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    Feb 14, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
    The funny thing of this thread is that this topic has already been discussed in several other steroid threads and it didn't get as good a resonance as it does here when it's an online article.

    Nebraskakid467 saidThe article seems a bit hypocritical...what with the picture of the author showing off his 'perfect' body in the shower, with his glistening muscles icon_rolleyes.gif

    So fucking true, I thought the same thing!

    kiwiLifter said
    oldwomeninlove said *scratches head* Gays only make up about 10% of the population. Those gyms would do just fine without them, which leads me to understand that there are obviously vast numbers of straight men and women keeping them afloat. '

    Look at the media's portrayal of straight men and women in movies, music, ads, etc. Buff. Fit. Pretty. Handsome.

    Our god kids, (girl and boy) are heavily into this as are their friends. They're all straight. Yes it's a problem of many gays (not all) and it's a problem with straights, too.

    Vanity is the property of no one, but is and has always been rather endemic to most.


    Obesity and diabetes are problems.

    Being in good shape is not a problem.

    Funny how the only ones who see it as a problem are the skanks! icon_lol.gif

    Being in good shape can be a problem. Psychologically and physically. As Paracelsus once said: The dose makes the poison. And as I already posted in another thread: Any abdominal girth > 104 cm and any BMI > 28 (be it fat or muscle) can raise the risk of cardiovascular incidents. Being huge can also harm your kidneys and bones. That's not healthy.
    It is evident that people with a BMI between 23 and 25 live the longest and healthiest.

    And I don't even start with psychological issues.
  • DanOmatic

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    Feb 14, 2014 1:30 PM GMT
    killercliche said
    kacho saidthe guy in the picture they use is beautiful icon_razz.gif


    The guy in the picture is the author, claiming that almost all underwear model use steroids and are unhealthy for it... looking like an underwear model.

    #makesyathink


    That was the first thing I noticed as well--pretty narcissistic.