Openly Gay Republican Carl DeMaio Features Partner Jonathan Hale In Campaign Ad

  • metta

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    Feb 14, 2014 1:20 AM GMT
    Openly Gay Republican Carl DeMaio Features Partner Jonathan Hale In Campaign Ad



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/13/carl-demaio-gay-campaign-ad_n_4780810.html
  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 14, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
    Sounds like a good guy. If he wins and goes to Washington, I hope he doesn't fall into lockstep with the rest of his party and become a total dick. All Republicans do. That is how they operate. Even their own leadership with the surprising exception of this last vote on the debt ceiling. If Boehner had done that earlier, he could have muted the Tea Baggers' influence long ago. (And before someone suggests that is the way of Democrats, too, I say bullshit. Just isn't so but I know it is a favorite argument of the intellectually lazy.)
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    Feb 14, 2014 3:56 PM GMT
    Pretty slick of you. Deny that any democrat is fallible and then do your best to stifle debate all in one sentence. Too bad we can see right through it.
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    Feb 14, 2014 4:02 PM GMT
    Gay or straight, ALL Republicans must be exterminated…

    We must have freedom of expression, free will, reason, liberalism... and Republican, right wing, fascist, conservativism has no place in this world!
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    Feb 14, 2014 4:36 PM GMT
    I am a conservative and you can try but you won't exterminate us lol. Seems like a good campaign.A gay Republican could win with a very tough law and order platform,a moderate stance on abortion,fiscal conservatism and a pro gay marriage plank.Obviously if you are running in a left leaning district you don't have any other option but to tailor your campaign to your constituents.Ryan icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 14, 2014 4:36 PM GMT
    I am a conservative and you can try but you won't exterminate us lol. Seems like a good campaign.A gay Republican could win with a very tough law and order platform,a moderate stance on abortion,fiscal conservatism and a pro gay marriage plank.Obviously if you are running in a left leaning district you don't have any other option but to tailor your campaign to your constituents.Ryan icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 14, 2014 4:54 PM GMT
    there has been a rash of celebrity gay men come out with out their partners. Than weeks down the line you see the couple holding hands.
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    Feb 14, 2014 5:00 PM GMT
    Randy Forbes isn't supporting him

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/gay-republican-candidates-100686.html

    And with Gov. Brown likely crushing at the top of the ticket in November, I doubt DeMaio has a chance at defeating Scott Peters.
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    Feb 14, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    Blakes7 saidPretty slick of you. Deny that any democrat is fallible and then do your best to stifle debate all in one sentence. Too bad we can see right through it.

    You sound just like your favorite TV comedy, FOX News. Just make up something and pretend it is true (whoops-- no, actually Republicans make things up and then actually believe it is true). I was just stating the fact that Republicans almost always vote in a unified block. The Democrats are renowned for being difficult to line up-- herding cats they call it.
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    Feb 14, 2014 5:11 PM GMT
    Republican or Democrat...they're all dirty and are or will be beholden to corporations if they want to be successful.
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    Feb 14, 2014 5:16 PM GMT
    fitartistsf saidGay or straight, ALL Republicans must be exterminated…

    We must have freedom of expression, free will, reason, liberalism... and Republican, right wing, fascist, conservativism has no place in this world!


    Our current President signed into law NDAA. If you're not familiar with it...you should be.
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    Feb 14, 2014 5:23 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidSounds like a good guy. If he wins and goes to Washington, I hope he doesn't fall into lockstep with the rest of his party and become a total dick. All Republicans do. That is how they operate. Even their own leadership with the surprising exception of this last vote on the debt ceiling. If Boehner had done that earlier, he could have muted the Tea Baggers' influence long ago. (And before someone suggests that is the way of Democrats, too, I say bullshit. Just isn't so but I know it is a favorite argument of the intellectually lazy.)


    As a San Diegan, I can say that the impression of the local LGBT community is that Carl is anything but a 'good guy' when it comes to politics. From what I've seen, he's pretty pleasant, but I've been told he can be a really nasty individual. I tend not to believe these things without evidence.

    However, the evidence does show that he's corrupt. In his extremely limited political career, it's already been shown that he funneled public funds to his partner's promotions company and then lied about it before coming clean.

    His partner controls several pieces of local gay media like the San Diego Gay and Lesbian News (SDGLN) and SDPix, and he constantly uses these to stump for Carl, with only the bare minimum disclaimer that the two have a "personal relationship."

    In short, he may be a good guy, but even with extremely limited power he's proven to be a dirty politician.
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    Feb 14, 2014 5:41 PM GMT
    fitartistsf saidGay or straight, ALL Republicans must be exterminated

    We must have freedom of expression, free will, reason, liberalism... and Republican, right wing, fascist, conservativism has no place in this world!


    Hitler exterminated the Jews.

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    Feb 14, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
    Does this site have a moderator?
    Anyone saying a group of people should be "exterminated" should be shut down immediately, even it it's just a troll trying to provoke people.
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    Feb 14, 2014 7:17 PM GMT
    Sheesh. I thought the comment was meant to be ironic!
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    Feb 14, 2014 8:12 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidDoes this site have a moderator?
    Anyone saying a group of people should be "exterminated" should be shut down immediately, even it it's just a troll trying to provoke people.

    Yes but when the comment is as generic as this and not applied towards an individual I think you need to consider it more figurative than actual.

    This person has strong views on the subject but has been around a while and is not, that I know, considered a troll. It's not an offensive comment directed at a specific person so you have to view it as his opinion. Having a moderator remove every posting thought to be offensive would ruin the free thought process of the forum. There are already some who feel some postings were removed without cause. I think we all have to give the moderator a break and, unless it's something extremely offensive or threatening, recognize it's only the poster's opinion and we're free to block that poster if we're really offended by their comment(s).
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    Feb 14, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    YourName2000 saidJesus, what are we bitching about? There's a gay republican running for office...and he actually showed his partner and the gay flag in the ad? Granted I didn't 'listen' to the ad (I'm on a computer atm that doesn't have sound) but it looked like a good ad to me.

    Isn't this what we want? Republicans respecting themselves and us at the same time, inclusion, and an end to being scapegoated? You don't have to vote for the man, can easily work to support the other candidate if you like, but I think think this is a good moment.

    And really, isn't Southern Cali more likely to vote Republican? If so, I'd rather he be a gay Republican who's out and proud.

    Sometimes I think we (gays) shoot ourselves in the foot by opposing everything solely because of the past. I agree with you, regardless of party, this man represents US!

    As for California (north or south) it still votes democratic however there are certainly pockets of the other party throughout the state but they're in the minority. This guy is replacing the mayor that was pushed out with allegations of sexual harassment with his staff so DeMaio probably had great timing to get San Diegans behind him regardless of party.
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    Feb 14, 2014 8:23 PM GMT
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    As a San Diegan, I can say that the impression of the local LGBT community is that Carl is anything but a 'good guy' when it comes to politics.


    As another San Diegan, I'll second that. He has a reputation as a tyrant from his days as a city council member.

    You'd think the local LGBT community would rally behind one of their own, but I've never seen any evidence that he rallied behind us. During the Prop 8 campaign, he was silent and the only Republican in the city who stood up for marriage equality was Mayor Sanders. (Mayor-elect Faulconer's position only changed when public opinion shifted in the years after Prop 8.)

    During DeMaio's failed mayoral campaign in 2012, he downplayed (but never denied, at least) his sexual orientation and would quickly move on when it was brought up. With his reputation as a fiscal conservative, he could be that unicorn candidate who appeals to moderates who dislike the religious right aspects of GOP social politics, but the commercial above is only the first time he's ever shown himself as anything but a lock-step Republican.

    With the stink of his loss to Bob Filner still on him, he'll have to come up with a compelling reason for people to vote against Peters. It's a battle for the middle with more independent voters in that congressional district than either of the two parties and DeMaio could lose a few of his base votes simply because he's gay.
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    Feb 14, 2014 8:23 PM GMT
    The problem is, he's going to vote for John Boehner as Speaker of the House, someone who will give committee chairmanships to people who are very, very conservative and anti-gay. By that standard, DeMaio's positions don't matter much, because he's going to support bad leadership.
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    Feb 14, 2014 8:27 PM GMT
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    fitartistsf saidGay or straight, ALL Republicans must be exterminated

    We must have freedom of expression, free will, reason, liberalism... and Republican, right wing, fascist, conservativism has no place in this world!


    Hitler exterminated the Jews.

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    WickedRyan saidI am a conservative and you can try but you won't exterminate us lol. Seems like a good campaign.A gay Republican could win with a very tough law and order platform,a moderate stance on abortion,fiscal conservatism and a pro gay marriage plank.Obviously if you are running in a left leaning district you don't have any other option but to tailor your campaign to your constituents.Ryan icon_smile.gif


    We don't have to exterminate you. Republicans are doing a fine job of ritually exterminating each other and eating the remains. I'll just continue to sit back and watch the show.

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    Feb 14, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
    fitartistsf saidGay or straight, ALL Republicans must be exterminated…

    We must have freedom of expression, free will, reason, liberalism... and Republican, right wing, fascist, conservativism has no place in this world!


    Huh. Liberals have far more in common with fascism than conservatives do, given the liberal penchant for centralized governmental power and too much state control over business and industry, as we've seen most strikingly under President Barack Obama.

    Who brought Adolf Hitler to power in 1932: gay Ernst Rolm and his brown shirt SA para military force.

    Why do you liberals support a president who has increased US foreign aid to Nigeria where gays are executed by stoning:

    2011 US Foreign Aid: 230 million
    2012 US Foreign Aid: 625 million
    2013 US Foreign Aid: 660.5 million
    2014 US Foreign Aid: 693 million

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    fitartistsf saidGay or straight, ALL Republicans must be exterminated…

    We must have freedom of expression, free will, reason, liberalism... and Republican, right wing, fascist, conservativism has no place in this world!


    To make way for the advancement of communist/fascist left wing gay democrats. Who want to smash the foundations of the republic of America so they can rebuild; but would they create a better Americaicon_redface.gif
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:23 PM GMT
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    Blakes7 saidPretty slick of you. Deny that any democrat is fallible and then do your best to stifle debate all in one sentence. Too bad we can see right through it.

    You sound just like your favorite TV comedy, FOX News. Just make up something and pretend it is true (whoops-- no, actually Republicans make things up and then actually believe it is true). I was just stating the fact that Republicans almost always vote in a unified block. The Democrats are renowned for being difficult to line up-- herding cats they call it.


    No, you didn't use the "almost" until your back pedaling reply. Nice try.
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:35 PM GMT
    Blakes7 said
    Destinharbor said
    Blakes7 saidPretty slick of you. Deny that any democrat is fallible and then do your best to stifle debate all in one sentence. Too bad we can see right through it.

    You sound just like your favorite TV comedy, FOX News. Just make up something and pretend it is true (whoops-- no, actually Republicans make things up and then actually believe it is true). I was just stating the fact that Republicans almost always vote in a unified block. The Democrats are renowned for being difficult to line up-- herding cats they call it.


    No, you didn't use the "almost" until your back pedaling reply. Nice try.

    Disingenuous as usual by a Republican. Democrats vote reliably for our interests and Republicans almost always vote in a goose-step block against our interests and you pretend there's an equivalency. Has the same logic as Republicans whining the law prohibiting their right to attack us at will is an infringement on their rights. Pathetic.