Tips from Guys in the gym useless sometimes?

  • maximumrisk

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    Sep 21, 2007 10:17 PM GMT
    Hey guys,

    I am starting to get a little problem at my gym. I go there 3 times a week and sometimes the more experienced guys tell me what exercises I should do. That works fine mostly, but on Wednesday for expample I ended up working 1 hour only on Biceps and I barely could do Triceps or shoulders that day because I only have 1 and a half hour before my last Bus to my home goes. I think that they should know what they are doing, but that seems to much. When it goes after them I am going to spent more then 2 hours in the gym. Any advice what I can do to not piss them of so that they wont help me at all anymore, but let me do my own routine?
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    Sep 21, 2007 10:49 PM GMT
    Just say thanks for the tip but it doesnt fit in with my overall routine 1 hour is bloody stupid I overheard some guy say "yeh Im doing 80 bicep curls now"

    I nearly wet myself laughing
  • art_smass

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    Sep 22, 2007 1:39 AM GMT
    Maybe the guy who was doing eighty biceps curls was a waiter in a restaurant that uses very, very large coffee pots. He was perfoming "functional training."
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    Sep 22, 2007 6:19 AM GMT
    I have my own routine which I stick to and never diverge from it. I use a book called Muscle Up by Matt Roberts. All the exercises are illustrated and there are two different routines, one for the pulling muscles and the other for the pushing muscles (well, that's how it's explained in the book).

    Each routine takes around an hour and ten minutes and works all the upper body and it's easy to follow so that you are using perfect form.

    It seems to work for me. One hour for biceps is ridiculous.
  • zakariahzol

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    Sep 22, 2007 11:41 AM GMT
    I have this instructor at my previous gym that told me I dont need to go on diet if I want to see my stomach muscle. All I need to do is the proper sit up that he gonna show me.
    Not all those trainer, instructor or old timer know what they talking about. Use your common senses. Take the good advise , ignore the bad.
  • maximumrisk

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    Sep 23, 2007 2:32 AM GMT
    Im glad to hear that Guys. Thx.

    I think I would have dropped out of the gym if I really would have to do one Hour per muscle.

    I just ask myself how somebody who worksout for years give such a advice. As well as 45 Minutes Cycling before training. I thought I dont hear right.

    I will see how I am gonna do that. The problem is that in my gym there are not so much options as in others. I still have my problems to balance everything. Every begining is hard. :-)

  • ikaramazov

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    Sep 23, 2007 3:29 PM GMT
    It's nice that some people are motivated to help. Sometimes even one of them will make an observation that I find useful, but most of the time they are just being nosy and invasive.

    Your problem is exactly why I always workout with headphones on and my own music playing. Some of the old salt, muscle-bound hounds do a lot more talking than they do exercising.

    It's not Starbucks; it's the gym.
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    Sep 29, 2007 6:49 AM GMT
    Hi,

    As what has already been identified - Whilst some people who train may have advice that could be useful, the reality is that you need to remember you are training for your own reasons, your own personal goals, and your own time restrictions.

    These people offering random advice do not know your health situation (therefore, what they may suggest can have implications towards any condition(s) you may have) - these people are not aware of your training goals (therefore, their advice may be misleading and incorrect) - and these people clearly wish to be seen as knowledge in order to grand-stand , rather than focus on their own exercise.

    Certainly, there are unique personalities who will help you when you require - however, I find these people are the one's who will assist you when you ask!.

    Good luck with your exercise endeavours.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 29, 2007 11:09 PM GMT
    You shouldn't need to spend more than an hour in the gym, unless you are training for an event or you're a bodybuilder. Take some of their advice work it to your needs and say thanks. I don't think someone would expect you to do exactly what they do in the gym. It's not like you are paying them as your PT.

    Good luck, don't let it stop you from going!

    mike3
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    Oct 02, 2007 5:35 AM GMT
    A set of headphones will help you avoid unwanted advice, but I find the best assistance is to use a training diary. Its excellent for your progress too.

    You can decide in the morning which exercises you need to do and you write them in your diary. It not only helps keep you on track during your workout, but it is a handy tool for you to point at and say "No thanks, mate, I have my routine worked out for today".

    Good luck.
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    Oct 31, 2007 9:18 PM GMT
    I actually end up arguing with most of the advice I get. I tried taking people's advice for years, and never made any gains. The problems are these:

    1. Some people are genetically gifted. They will grow bigger no matter what workout they do, as long as they work out. I am not genetically gifted, and their advice will usually not apply to me.

    2. Some people are taking steroids. They will grow bigger no matter what workout they do, as long as they work out. I am not taking steroids, and their advice will usually not apply to me.

    3. Some people are between 18 and 25. They will grow bigger no matter what workout they do, as long as they work out. I am 43, and their advice will usually not apply to me.

    I have learned the hard way that emulating someone else's workout will not guarantee anything. They may be more experienced with THEIR body, but they are not more experienced with yours.

    I have found that the only way I get bigger is to lift weights close to my max, for sets of about 5-8 reps. Warm ups and cool downs are 15 reps at much lighter. While I am not big by any standards, I am steadily getting bigger now after years of trying with no gains. If you have found your own personal optimum range, just tell people you know what you're doing and that their advice won't work for you. Politely. And hope that your response will discourage them from giving bad advice to others who unlike you might take it.
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    Oct 31, 2007 10:17 PM GMT
    The only advice really worth it's salt would be advice given to help you avoid injury. Even then, if someone tells you that you are doing something wrong, try to research it yourself as well.

    Nobody knows what works for you. Gaining muscle and being in shape is more a mental process than physical one, much like everything in life.
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    Nov 02, 2007 4:41 PM GMT
    some people view the gym as a pick up joint, don't be surprised if all these guys are trying to get in your pants and have you on your back . let them f*** you and they'll leave you alone the next time. LOL -just kidding bro, but it could be true.