Kansas House Passes Bill To Allow Discrimination Against Same-Sex Couples

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    Feb 15, 2014 7:18 PM GMT
    Dorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore, but be glad - you would never want to go back there.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/us/kansas-bill-same-sex-services/
    Under the law, supported by republican Governor Elmer Gantry, government employees (like police officers) would not be required to perform any service for members of a same-sex couple that would otherwise be mandated. Kansas is the same 19th century haven for fundie christians whose state school board keeps trying to require public schools teach "creationism" as science.
  • tazzari

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    Feb 15, 2014 8:08 PM GMT
    won't make it past any legal tests....
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 15, 2014 8:15 PM GMT
    It is really, horribly sad how the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS have infiltrated Kansas over the years and turned it into another bastion of extremist right wing lunacy. Until the people of Kansas start rejecting all this right wing extremism and voting out all the NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS, things are only going to deteriorate even more in the Sunflower Stateicon_sad.gificon_mad.gif
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    Feb 15, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
    It's flyover land. Quelle surprise.
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    Feb 15, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
    libertpaulian saidIt's flyover land. Quelle surprise.
    Well it is time to take back this "flyover land" and evict all the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS to Texas. Kansas along with Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming is very beautiful scenic country. The FLAKY FUINDAMENTALISTS have no damned business in this beautiful scenic country. Lets turn all of Texas into a special reservation for the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS and other right wing lunatics that would be administered by the UN.
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    Feb 15, 2014 8:59 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIt is really, horribly sad how the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS have infiltrated Kansas over the years and turned it into another bastion of extremist right wing lunacy. Until the people of Kansas start rejecting all this right wing extremism and voting out all the NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS, things are only going to deteriorate even more in the Sunflower Stateicon_sad.gificon_mad.gif

    That rejection isn't going to happen. We see RJ members right here who praise these developments in Kansas and elsewhere.

    I hate to be negative, but I see a lot of Right Wing infiltrators here who are working against us. I think you can guess who they are.

    So that I don't know who will win this battle. It's important we oppose them, Whether in Kansas, or right here on this site.
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    libertpaulian saidIt's flyover land. Quelle surprise.
    Well it is time to take back this "flyover land" and evict all the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS to Texas. Kansas along with Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming is very beautiful scenic country. The FLAKY FUINDAMENTALISTS have no damned business in this beautiful scenic country. Lets turn all of Texas into a special reservation for the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS and other right wing lunatics that would be administered by the UN.

    Nah, Texas is a cool state. Lots of cool big cities and a nice culture of its own.

    If you wanted to create "fundy land," Alabama or Mississippi would be a better fit.
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    Feb 15, 2014 9:05 PM GMT
    libertpaulian said
    Nah, Texas is a cool state. Lots of cool big cities and a nice culture of its own.

    If you wanted to create "fundy land," Alabama or Mississippi would be a better fit.

    Have you actually lived in Texas? I did for over 4 years.

    I also lived in Alabama for 2 years. Have you?

    Would you please stop your BSing? And do let us know when you have something of substance to contribute?
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    Feb 15, 2014 9:06 PM GMT
    libertpaulian said
    roadbikeRob said
    libertpaulian saidIt's flyover land. Quelle surprise.
    Well it is time to take back this "flyover land" and evict all the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS to Texas. Kansas along with Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming is very beautiful scenic country. The FLAKY FUINDAMENTALISTS have no damned business in this beautiful scenic country. Lets turn all of Texas into a special reservation for the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS and other right wing lunatics that would be administered by the UN.

    Nah, Texas is a cool state. Lots of cool big cities and a nice culture of its own.

    If you wanted to create "fundy land," Alabama or Mississippi would be a better fit.
    Texas isn't as cool as it appears and its large cities are much more conservative than major cities around the US especially San Antonio and Fort Worth. Texas would make an excellent fundy land because of its immense size meaning we could pack all the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS in one place and than break it off from the union and place it under UN administration.
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    Feb 15, 2014 10:31 PM GMT
    We are not happy about this but we know it will not pass any further. It has been viewed as very discriminatory.
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    Feb 16, 2014 2:26 AM GMT
    HikerSkier saidDorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore, but be glad - you would never want to go back there.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/us/kansas-bill-same-sex-services/
    Under the law, supported by republican Governor Elmer Gantry, government employees (like police officers) would not be required to perform any service for members of a same-sex couple that would otherwise be mandated. Kansas is the same 19th century haven for fundie christians whose state school board keeps trying to require public schools teach "creationism" as science.
    Elmer Gantry isn't the governor of Kansas.
  • metta

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    Feb 16, 2014 2:39 AM GMT
    I like the title of this one


    Kansas’ Anti-Gay Segregation Bill Is an Abomination

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/02/13/kansas_anti_gay_segregation_bill_is_an_abomination.html
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    Feb 16, 2014 5:16 AM GMT
    Dear religious Kansas Republicans:

    'On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

    26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

    27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]”

    28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

    29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

    30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

    36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

    37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

    Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”
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    Feb 16, 2014 5:32 AM GMT
    To the Religious Republicans, part two:



    Was the man who needed assistance a Christian, a Jew, a good person, a bad person, a straight person, a gay person? Did Christ say to ask him first before helping him?


    ...did Christ say which ones who need help you are to refuse in the above parable?




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    Feb 16, 2014 5:36 AM GMT

    And now for some happy news:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/15/kansas-senate-senses-nixes-extreme-anti-gay-legislation.html

    It's done, finished, killed, kaput....we hope!
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    Feb 16, 2014 5:46 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    libertpaulian saidIt's flyover land. Quelle surprise.
    Well it is time to take back this "flyover land" and evict all the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS to Texas. Kansas along with Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming is very beautiful scenic country. The FLAKY FUINDAMENTALISTS have no damned business in this beautiful scenic country. Lets turn all of Texas into a special reservation for the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS and other right wing lunatics that would be administered by the UN.


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    Feb 16, 2014 8:57 AM GMT
    mybud said
    HikerSkier saidDorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore, but be glad - you would never want to go back there.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/us/kansas-bill-same-sex-services/
    Under the law, supported by republican Governor Elmer Gantry, government employees (like police officers) would not be required to perform any service for members of a same-sex couple that would otherwise be mandated. Kansas is the same 19th century haven for fundie christians whose state school board keeps trying to require public schools teach "creationism" as science.
    Elmer Gantry isn't the governor of Kansas.

    No?

    Could have fooled me.
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    Feb 16, 2014 3:59 PM GMT
    Sanctioned discrimination? Isn't that apartheid? What the fuck country is this?

    https://www.aclu.org/using-religion-discriminate
    Religious freedom in America means that we all have a right to our religious beliefs, but this does not give us the right to use our religion to discriminate against and impose those beliefs on others who do not share them.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/equal_protection
    The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from denying any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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    roadbikeRob said
    libertpaulian saidIt's flyover land. Quelle surprise.
    Well it is time to take back this "flyover land" and evict all the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS to Texas. Kansas along with Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming is very beautiful scenic country. The FLAKY FUINDAMENTALISTS have no damned business in this beautiful scenic country. Lets turn all of Texas into a special reservation for the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS and other right wing lunatics that would be administered by the UN.



    Hey! Hey! Hey! Please don't send anymore our way! We are busy dealing with the homegrown flakes we already have. icon_neutral.gif

    Let's send them to the Middle East. Their hatred for others would fit right in with racial and religious strife already there.
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    Feb 16, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
    scholargrowingmuscle said
    roadbikeRob said
    libertpaulian saidIt's flyover land. Quelle surprise.
    Well it is time to take back this "flyover land" and evict all the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS to Texas. Kansas along with Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming is very beautiful scenic country. The FLAKY FUINDAMENTALISTS have no damned business in this beautiful scenic country. Lets turn all of Texas into a special reservation for the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS and other right wing lunatics that would be administered by the UN.



    Hey! Hey! Hey! Please don't send anymore our way! We are busy dealing with the homegrown flakes we already have. icon_neutral.gif

    Let's send them to the Middle East. Their hatred for others would fit right in with racial and religious strife already there.
    Why noticon_question.gif Texas is the Giant Tea Party State after all. It would be a perfect piece of geography to give to the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS.
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    Feb 16, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
    Texas is not a unified as many think. It appears more conservative extreme than it is especially since they gerrymandered the voting districts a number of years back to water down the more liberal counties in the state. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Also, it seems that only our nut-job political figures end up on national television.

    I teach in a rural school, and we have a number of openly gay and lesbian students. They do occasionally encounter intolerance; however, the majority of our other students stand up to the bully on behalf of the student. By the time the faculty addresses it, the general population of students have made it clear that intolerance is unacceptable.

    I have lived all around the state. Some areas are more repressive, but it is amazing how fast things are changing since I graduated high school from small town Texas.
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    Feb 16, 2014 7:52 PM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    mybud said
    HikerSkier saidDorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore, but be glad - you would never want to go back there.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/us/kansas-bill-same-sex-services/
    Under the law, supported by republican Governor Elmer Gantry, government employees (like police officers) would not be required to perform any service for members of a same-sex couple that would otherwise be mandated. Kansas is the same 19th century haven for fundie christians whose state school board keeps trying to require public schools teach "creationism" as science.
    Elmer Gantry isn't the governor of Kansas.

    No?

    Could have fooled me.
    Listen, you and I may know who Elmer Gantry was, but you got to remember most on here don't. Just state the facts..I'm out
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    Feb 16, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    roadbikeRob saidIt is really, horribly sad how the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS have infiltrated Kansas over the years and turned it into another bastion of extremist right wing lunacy. Until the people of Kansas start rejecting all this right wing extremism and voting out all the NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS, things are only going to deteriorate even more in the Sunflower Stateicon_sad.gificon_mad.gif

    That rejection isn't going to happen. We see RJ members right here who praise these developments in Kansas and elsewhere.

    I hate to be negative, but I see a lot of Right Wing infiltrators here who are working against us. I think you can guess who they are.

    So that I don't know who will win this battle. It's important we oppose them, Whether in Kansas, or right here on this site.

    Not surprising. But Art, I tend to think that progress in inescapable.

    By the way, creation-vs-evolution is not a scientific debate, but an (American) political one. (When telling my Russian and Ukrainian relatives about people thinking that evolution is false, they frankly sneered, saying "What, did aliens bring us here?")
  • KissTheSky

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    Feb 16, 2014 9:52 PM GMT
    The Republican Party is clearly moving in the opposite direction from the majority of the country.
    As America gets steadily more gay-friendly and as majorities approve of marriage equality, the GOP sinks deeper and deeper into its twisted mentality of bigotry and hatred. The latest flurry of anti-gay discrimination legislation being pushed by Republicans is just the latest in the ongoing hate campaign against gay families.
    Most Americans are disgusted by this kind of bigotry, which is why Republicans keep losing elections. And most Americans wonder why the GOP spends all its time bashing gay people and women, rather than trying to help create jobs and address the other real problems our country faces.
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    Kazachok said
    By the way, creation-vs-evolution is not a scientific debate, but an (American) political one. (When telling my Russian and Ukrainian relatives about people thinking that evolution is false, they frankly sneered, saying "What, did aliens bring us here?")

    Well, politics combined with religion. After the Republicans sold out to Christian fundamentalists in order to create a reliable base of voters, they haven't had any choice but to accept the anti-science of Creationism. So that now leading Republicans are Creationists, too, or else they'll lose the base on which their political power depends.

    Take the Christian base away and Republicans won't have anything but millionaire voters to back them. Plenty of campaign donations there, but not a lot of actual votes. Republicans made a Devil's Pact with the fundamentalist Christians, and now they can't get out of it. So sad. icon_biggrin.gif