This is the Face of Evil

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    Feb 17, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
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    Ekaterina Zigunova has led the physical torture, ritual degradation and sexual abuse of over a hundred men. Her followers have committed similar and worse crimes against thousands more. The Russian authorities turn a blind eye because the victims are gay.

    In Russia it is even illegal to say gay people shouldn’t be tortured. Millions of people are living in terror. It is no exaggeration to compare what’s happening today with what happened in Germany in the 1930s. Laws exist to stop the victims speaking out. Spirits are being broken. People are begging the international community for help and being ignored. Immigration is blocked. Suicide rates are rising exponentially.

    This situation is so horrific and so outside our ordinary frames of reference that many of us have been too stunned to take action. This is also what happened in the 1930s. We ask, how could it have happened? This is how. Because people like us do nothing.

    Please watch this Channel Four documentary and see for yourself what the gangs do on camera with no fear of reprisal. These sadistic attacks are virtually sanctioned by the state.

    There are THOUSANDS of torture videos being shared on the Russian equivalents of Facebook and YouTube. Ekaterina Zigunova is recruiting new followers on these sites every day. She invites them to “go hunting” and describes the long torture sessions as “safaris”. She falsely links herself to the Occupy movement, and conflates homosexuality and pedophilia, to get more support.

    This week, many of us celebrated our love with chocolates and flowers. It was nice. But today we must wake up and help our brothers and sisters in Russia. There are people crouched in the corner of their bedroom right now, alone, terrified to even think. We must help them. You must help them.

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    Feb 18, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
    That's shocking. Thankfully my family left Russia and I did not grow up there, it could have been me being hunted in one of those "safaris".
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    Feb 18, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
    Love to get lured into one of her lairs & shoot all of em with an Uzi.
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    Feb 18, 2014 7:58 PM GMT
    Fuck this shit! Let's form the gay army and blow some shit up!!
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    Feb 18, 2014 8:23 PM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidFuck this shit! Let's form the gay army and blow some shit up!!


    Russian gays need to arm themselves & start to fight back.
  • BeauBlanc

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    Feb 18, 2014 9:22 PM GMT
    I can not watch this video in the US, has anyone in the states had luck and possibly have a link to the full video all I get are intro vids. I would love to bring this to my colleges attention thanks.
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    Feb 19, 2014 4:03 AM GMT
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    Ekaterina Zigunova has led the physical torture, ritual degradation and sexual abuse of over a hundred men. Her followers have committed similar and worse crimes against thousands more. The Russian authorities turn a blind eye because the victims are gay.

    In Russia it is even illegal to say gay people shouldn’t be tortured. Millions of people are living in terror. It is no exaggeration to compare what’s happening today with what happened in Germany in the 1930s. Laws exist to stop the victims speaking out. Spirits are being broken. People are begging the international community for help and being ignored. Immigration is blocked. Suicide rates are rising exponentially.

    This situation is so horrific and so outside our ordinary frames of reference that many of us have been too stunned to take action. This is also what happened in the 1930s. We ask, how could it have happened? This is how. Because people like us do nothing.

    Please watch this Channel Four documentary and see for yourself what the gangs do on camera with no fear of reprisal. These sadistic attacks are virtually sanctioned by the state.

    There are THOUSANDS of torture videos being shared on the Russian equivalents of Facebook and YouTube. Ekaterina Zigunova is recruiting new followers on these sites every day. She invites them to “go hunting” and describes the long torture sessions as “safaris”. She falsely links herself to the Occupy movement, and conflates homosexuality and pedophilia, to get more support.

    This week, many of us celebrated our love with chocolates and flowers. It was nice. But today we must wake up and help our brothers and sisters in Russia. There are people crouched in the corner of their bedroom right now, alone, terrified to even think. We must help them. You must help them.

    Support and contribute to Human Rights Watch (and watch their film below)
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    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od#3651833


    Should use that bitch's face for target practice.....
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    Feb 19, 2014 9:23 AM GMT
    there are lots of Russians immigrating in different parts of Europe ...its sad to see that in 2014 racism and sexism still triumph ....its gonna take a lot of strength to overcome something like this...nobody messes with the Russians unfortunately...icon_cry.gif
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    Feb 21, 2014 8:22 PM GMT
    Explains wwhy every gay russian guy I meet is so fucking sketched out - lol fuck Russia
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    Feb 21, 2014 8:26 PM GMT
    Snaz saidExplains wwhy every gay russian guy I meet is so fucking sketched out - lol fuck Russia


    this is so true, definitely a fucked up, cursed people
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    Feb 21, 2014 8:47 PM GMT
    Thank you Scruffypup for posting these things to keep us informed. Vic
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    Feb 21, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
    As much as we disagree with each other, thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, the best way I think we could ever help for gays in Russia would be to help get them out until their leaders can no longer scapegoat "others" for their miserable failures.

    Listened to a round table on Russian-American relations - unlike other countries where the support for gay marriage and rights has steadily increased, it was doing so until the last few years with Putin's vilification of gays.

    The next best thing I think we could do in the west is bring oil and gas prices crashing down while we continue to innovate. Just as China had no choice to open itself up economically (with the accompanying pressures to open up politically) you can only for so long point to the 'evil decadence' of the west while your people starve.
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    Feb 22, 2014 3:40 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidAs much as we disagree with each other, thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, the best way I think we could ever help for gays in Russia would be to help get them out until their leaders can no longer scapegoat "others" for their miserable failures.

    Listened to a round table on Russian-American relations - unlike other countries where the support for gay marriage and rights has steadily increased, it was doing so until the last few years with Putin's vilification of gays.

    The next best thing I think we could do in the west is bring oil and gas prices crashing down while we continue to innovate. Just as China had no choice to open itself up economically (with the accompanying pressures to open up politically) you can only for so long point to the 'evil decadence' of the west while your people starve.


    no way oil and gas prices come crashing down, just watch what happens with Ukraine as Russia fights to save it's gas pipeline network to Europe
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    Feb 22, 2014 4:22 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidAs much as we disagree with each other, thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, the best way I think we could ever help for gays in Russia would be to help get them out until their leaders can no longer scapegoat "others" for their miserable failures.

    Listened to a round table on Russian-American relations - unlike other countries where the support for gay marriage and rights has steadily increased, it was doing so until the last few years with Putin's vilification of gays.

    The next best thing I think we could do in the west is bring oil and gas prices crashing down while we continue to innovate. Just as China had no choice to open itself up economically (with the accompanying pressures to open up politically) you can only for so long point to the 'evil decadence' of the west while your people starve.


    no way oil and gas prices come crashing down, just watch what happens with Ukraine as Russia fights to save it's gas pipeline network to Europe


    They've already been crashing - at least gas prices have. Expect oil prices to follow as new discoveries are made, technology improves in the next few years - almost as quickly as it happened to natural gas.
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    Feb 22, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidFuck this shit! Let's form the gay army and blow some shit up!!
    Lets turn Moscow into an urban sea of fireicon_mad.gif
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    Feb 22, 2014 4:37 PM GMT
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    _Behemoth_ saidFuck this shit! Let's form the gay army and blow some shit up!!
    Lets turn Moscow into an urban sea of fireicon_mad.gif



    Er....how exactly will that make people like gays, again?

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    Feb 22, 2014 4:38 PM GMT
    Snaz saidExplains wwhy every gay russian guy I meet is so fucking sketched out - lol fuck Russia
    The Russian guys on here defend their country's horrible actions and tell us that the homophobia from the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian President Vladimir Putin is over exaggerated by our news media. Then they accuse us of hating Russians because we are condemning their government and its horrendous laws. I just don't get it.
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    Feb 22, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    yeah nat gas is crashing

    GraphEngine.ashx?z=f&gf=110558.USD.mmbtu
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    Feb 22, 2014 4:43 PM GMT
    yeah crude oil price is crashing

    GraphEngine.ashx?z=f&gf=110537.USD.bbl&d
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    Feb 22, 2014 4:43 PM GMT
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    Snaz saidExplains wwhy every gay russian guy I meet is so fucking sketched out - lol fuck Russia
    The Russian guys on here defend their country's horrible actions and tell us that the homophobia from the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian President Vladimir Putin is over exaggerated by our news media. Then they accuse us of hating Russians because we are condemning their government and its horrendous laws. I just don't get it.


    Likely because some solutions presented would mean they, too, would also starve, or get fire bombed etc. In some topics about this, some posters have made rather nasty comments about ALL Russians.

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    Feb 22, 2014 5:00 PM GMT
    somersault saidyeah nat gas is crashing

    GraphEngine.ashx?z=f&gf=110558.USD.mmbtu


    Extend out that timeline by about 5-10 years - and compare prices between North America and anywhere overseas. e.g.

    GraphEngine.ashx?z=f&gf=110558.USD.mmbtu

    The innovations that came to natural gas are only starting to take hold for oil. Further, natural gas has been replacing oil usage - the problem is that it takes time given the hardware retrofits, etc. That's why I said give it a few more years for oil.

    And already... all is not well in Russia:
    http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/02/21/putins-achilles-heel/

    But while the world’s attention is focused on Kiev and the billion-dollar show in the Caucasus, Russia’s economy as a whole is slowly falling apart. Capital flight is accelerating, and the ruble has fallen by 8.1 percent this year and 1.7 percent in the past week alone. Only the Argentinian peso is doing worse.

    Russia was also forced to cancel three debt auctions in four weeks due to weak demand and high yields. The markets have cast a skeptical eye on Putin’s policies, particularly his decision to pledge $15 billion in aid to Ukraine so soon after dropping nearly three times that amount on Sochi.


    And this is a useful target to work towards:
    "$60 oil will finish Russia's Putin regime, says Hermitage's Browder"
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100026424/60-oil-will-finish-russias-putin-regime-says-hermitages-browder/
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    Feb 25, 2014 5:59 PM GMT
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    roadbikeRob said
    Snaz saidExplains wwhy every gay russian guy I meet is so fucking sketched out - lol fuck Russia
    The Russian guys on here defend their country's horrible actions and tell us that the homophobia from the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian President Vladimir Putin is over exaggerated by our news media. Then they accuse us of hating Russians because we are condemning their government and its horrendous laws. I just don't get it.


    Likely because some solutions presented would mean they, too, would also starve, or get fire bombed etc. In some topics about this, some posters have made rather nasty comments about ALL Russians.

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    Lol some rj posters must still believe the cold war exists.

    Well my most recent friend/roommate is from Russia and I can tell he is sketched out. He talks about bringing his family here and sends his dad money so... Yet to meet the homeland pride for fear of ancestry increased suffering variety.
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    Feb 25, 2014 6:02 PM GMT
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    roadbikeRob said
    _Behemoth_ saidFuck this shit! Let's form the gay army and blow some shit up!!
    Lets turn Moscow into an urban sea of fireicon_mad.gif



    Er....how exactly will that make people like gays, again?



    Lol