State Bills to Allow Discrimination Against Gays

  • metta

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    Feb 18, 2014 5:20 PM GMT
    S.D. Senate committee kills bill to allow discrimination against gays

    Similar bills pending in Ariz., Tenn., but blocked in Kansas, Idaho


    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/02/s-d-lawmakers-considering-bill-to-allow-discrimination-against-gays/
  • metta

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    Feb 19, 2014 12:09 AM GMT
    Hooray! It's Still OK to Be Gay in Tennessee!

    http://blogs.metropulse.com/the_daily_pulse/2014/02/hooray-its-still-ok-to-be-gay.html
  • metta

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    Feb 19, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
    Kansas state Senator declares gay discrimination bill is dead

    "The chairman of the Kansas Senate Judiciary Committee says the panel won’t consider a House-passed bill to protect people who refuse for religious reasons to provide goods and services to gay couples."

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/02/kansas-state-senator-declares-gay-discrimination-bill-is-dead/
  • metta

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    Feb 20, 2014 10:50 PM GMT
    Ariz. Senate approves bill allowing religious discrimination against gays


    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/02/ariz-senate-considers-bill-allowing-religious-discrimination-against-gays/
  • irishkcguy

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    Feb 20, 2014 11:15 PM GMT
    The thing that pisses me off the most about these bills is they are blatantly unconstitutional and won't stand up in court. Yet these idiots waste time and public money passing them and will waste more time and money defending them in court. Then they'll force plaintiffs to spend money suing and waste the courts' time. And fuck their gay minions.
  • metta

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    Feb 20, 2014 11:44 PM GMT
    Maine state Senate rejects religious freedom bill

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/02/maine-state-senate-rejects-religious-freedom-bill/
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    Feb 21, 2014 12:02 AM GMT
    Yeah Maine! We may be a little behind the times up here (OK, some would say we're hicks), but there's certainly a "live and let live attitude" in this state.
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    Feb 21, 2014 12:09 AM GMT
    How come these State bills have suddenly appeared all at once? We've seen like, what, 7 of them in the last week or so?

    You don't think some national conservative groups have orchestrated this, do you? That can lobby Republican legislators to do as they're told?

    Otherwise you must believe in the most amazing legislative coincidence in the history of the US. Well, if you're a Republican, you'll believe in anything your Party tells you. And it's what you want, anyway. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 21, 2014 12:20 AM GMT
    ART_DECO saidHow come these State bills have suddenly appeared all at once? We've seen like, what, 7 of them in the last week or so?

    You don't think some national conservative groups have orchestrated this, do you? That can lobby Republican legislators to do as they're told?

    Otherwise you must believe in the most amazing legislative coincidence in the history of the US. Well, if you're a Republican, you'll believe in anything your Party tells you. And it's what you want, anyway. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I agree, however, it could also be in response to several states (like Virginia) coming forth stating their gay marriage ban amendments are unconstitutional.

    Art, you and I both know that the only hope we have in our state is to vote Republican Attorney General Pam Bondi out of office this November and replace her with a progressive-thinking Democrat. George Sheldon, former official from the US Department of Health/Human Services is in the race. However, I (and you might too) prefer to see a 2010 rematch with known South Florida Democrat Dan Gelber coming in to challenge her. With Bondi gone, her successor should (had better) declare Amendment 2 unconstitutional and newly elected Governor Charlie Crist is gonna support it.
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    Feb 21, 2014 12:27 AM GMT
    Moving quickly in Georgia now. I think these people are seeing the writing on the walls and they're lashing out like an animal trapped in the corner.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 21, 2014 2:19 AM GMT
    MaineDiver saidYeah Maine! We may be a little behind the times up here (OK, some would say we're hicks), but there's certainly a "live and let live attitude" in this state.
    Maine is further ahead in time than most southern states especially Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Texas. Trust me, you cannot possibly get anymore backward and ignorant than these five glorified hick states and that's no bullshit.
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    Feb 21, 2014 5:55 PM GMT
    irishkcguy saidThe thing that pisses me off the most about these bills is they are blatantly unconstitutional and won't stand up in court. Yet these idiots waste time and public money passing them and will waste more time and money defending them in court. Then they'll force plaintiffs to spend money suing and waste the courts' time. And fuck their gay minions.


    I've been wondering the same thing. The costs in taxpayer monies funding tabling of these things etc as you've mentioned must be running up massive wastes of time and money. Where's the fiscal conservatism? They (fiscal conservatives)should be slapping the social conservs clear into next week. Drop kicking works, too.

    *genuinely puzzled*
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    Feb 21, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
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    1969er saidMoving quickly in Georgia now. I think these people are seeing the writing on the walls and they're lashing out like an animal trapped in the corner.


    They're so desperate to hurt us icon_evil.gif


    I also think that an apt description, that or cockroaches scrambling from the light of day.

    I was wondering if similar backlashes were felt during other civil rights movements or is this abomination of the constitution reserved for their hatred of us specifically.

    Googling, I'm not finding an answer so this might be unique in American history though I don't know law so maybe I'm just not using the right search terms. But I wonder if legislators proposed discriminatory laws while black people were gaining their rights, while women were gaining the vote, when anti-miscegenation laws were declared unconstitutional.

    Was ever a law proposed providing for the discrimination against a mixed race couple by a churchgoer as a matter of freedom of religion?
  • WrestlerBoy

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    Feb 22, 2014 4:51 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    Broseph said
    1969er saidMoving quickly in Georgia now. I think these people are seeing the writing on the walls and they're lashing out like an animal trapped in the corner.


    They're so desperate to hurt us icon_evil.gif


    I also think that an apt description, that or cockroaches scrambling from the light of day.

    I was wondering if similar backlashes were felt during other civil rights movements or is this abomination of the constitution reserved for their hatred of us specifically.

    Googling, I'm not finding an answer so this might be unique in American history though I don't know law so maybe I'm just not using the right search terms. But I wonder if legislators proposed discriminatory laws while black people were gaining their rights, while women were gaining the vote, when anti-miscegenation laws were declared unconstitutional.

    Was ever a law proposed providing for the discrimination against a mixed race couple by a churchgoer as a matter of freedom of religion?


    If you mean subsequent to Loving, the answer is a clear No. (If you been before Loving, the legal "rationale" for such laws was legion).

    SCOTUS ruled, unanimously, in Loving vs Virginia, that any law prohibiting the marriage of "interracial" couples was unconstitutional. Once that ruling has been made, there is nowhere to go, unless you want to amend the Constitution. (So any state legislature attempting to pass a law to the contrary would be in violation of the United Sates Constitution prima facie).

    The difference for us is that we are (currently) comparing apples and oranges: SCOTUS has NOT ruled that state laws prohibiting SSM are unconstitutional; so far, a handful of federal judges have.

    Unless, and until, "we" get the same sort of SCOTUS holding as in Loving, we're still not "safe".
  • KissTheSky

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    Feb 22, 2014 10:25 PM GMT
    The REPUBLICAN legislators pushing these bills should all be voted out of office. The GOP needs to purge their party of this kind of bigotry. It's a cancer that's destroying itself, but they can't seem to stop pouring gasonline on the fire consuming what's left of their sad, hateful party.
  • tazzari

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    Feb 22, 2014 10:38 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThe REPUBLICAN legislators pushing these bills should all be voted out of office. The GOP needs to purge their party of this kind of bigotry. It's a cancer that's destroying itself, but they can't seem to stop pouring gasonline on the fire consuming what's left of their sad, hateful party.


    Thereby abandoning their useful role of providing a) a useful, thoughtful opposition, b) a vision of "something better for America, and c by dividing Americans rather than uniting them. And it would be such a service to the country if they would lead, rather than simply brainlessly pandering to the worst instincts of anyone who will listen to the by attacking everything, like that arch right-wing moron Ted Nugent.
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    Feb 22, 2014 11:03 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    KissTheSky saidThe REPUBLICAN legislators pushing these bills should all be voted out of office. The GOP needs to purge their party of this kind of bigotry. It's a cancer that's destroying itself, but they can't seem to stop pouring gasonline on the fire consuming what's left of their sad, hateful party.


    Thereby abandoning their useful role of providing a) a useful, thoughtful opposition, b) a vision of "something better for America, and c by dividing Americans rather than uniting them. And it would be such a service to the country if they would lead, rather than simply brainlessly pandering to the worst instincts of anyone who will listen to the by attacking everything, like that arch right-wing moron Ted Nugent.
    James Dobson from that radical right wing Focus on the Family is one of the primary culprits in the decline of the GOPicon_mad.gif
  • metta

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    Feb 23, 2014 6:13 AM GMT
    Arizona Senate Actually does it.. 'Turn Gays Away' Passes

    More details of what this law actually allows:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/19/1278923/-Arizona-Senate-Actually-does-it-Turn-Gays-Away-Passes
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 23, 2014 6:18 AM GMT
    Here in AZ, the bill is viewed as a bit of an eye roll-inducing embarrassment. No one thinks Gov. Brewer will sign it. Even if she does, it's not like they are going to start throwing gays out of restaurants. The whole thing is a huge waste of time and energy.
  • metta

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    Feb 23, 2014 6:19 AM GMT
    The sudden eruption of anti-gay legislation nationwide is not a coincidence

    "Republicans lawmakers and a network of conservative religious groups has been pushing similar bills in other states, essentially forging a national campaign that, critics say, would legalize discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Republicans in Idaho, Oregon, South Dakota, and Tennessee recently introduced provisions that mimic the Kansas legislation. And Arizona, Hawaii, Ohio, Oklahoma, and Mississippi have introduced broader “religious freedom” bills with a unique provision that would also allow people to deny services or employment to LGBT Americans, legal experts say.

    Some of them, such as the proposals in Nevada and Ohio last year and the new one in South Dakota, came right out and specified that the reason was so conservative fundamentalists could discriminate against gays and lesbians. All three of these measures, by the way, appear to be dead."


    http://americablog.com/2014/02/eruption-anti-gay-legislation-nationwide-coincidence.html
  • metta

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    Feb 23, 2014 6:22 AM GMT
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    Feb 23, 2014 7:14 AM GMT
    Jeff Flake, Republican Arizona Senator, Calls On Governor Jan Brewer To Veto Anti-Gay Bill

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22/jeff-flake-jan-brewer_n_4839600.html
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    Feb 23, 2014 7:17 AM GMT
    Hey metta8, I really haven't researched it, but I bet you have...Has Jan given any hint at if she is going to sign this or not.
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    Feb 23, 2014 7:25 AM GMT
    RadRTT saidHey metta8, I really haven't researched it, but I bet you have...Has Jan given any hint at if she is going to sign this or not.


    No, she really has just stated that she was going to look into the issue before deciding.
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    Feb 23, 2014 7:26 AM GMT
    metta8 said
    RadRTT saidHey metta8, I really haven't researched it, but I bet you have...Has Jan given any hint at if she is going to sign this or not.


    No, she really has just stated that she was going to look into the issue before deciding.
    Oh, okay, thank you. icon_biggrin.gif