What if Christ were gay or bi?.....

  • TannerMasseur

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    Feb 18, 2014 9:27 PM GMT
    Is there any written evidence or reference in The Bible that he might have been gay or bi? It sure would shut all the anti-gay homophobic Christians up if there were any link to Him being gay or bi.....
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    Feb 18, 2014 9:35 PM GMT
    You have to understand that Christ was the human form of the Holy Spirit. But, you are trying to compare him to having human attributes, in which you cannot. Jesus was flesh and blood, but he was not the 'flesh' in which the bible refers to as having 'carnal' desires. Christ was a man without sin. Christ came to redeem all sinners, so that we can inherit the kingdom of God. So to ask if Christ was gay, would be to ask if God is gay. Being that sexuality is a characteristic of the flesh and carnal desires, that answer is...no.

    From the moment of his conception Jesus Christ was empowered by the Holy Spirit. Christ’s possession of the Holy Spirit was demonstrated publicly at several points in his ministry. After his resurrection the Holy Spirit demonstrated him to be the Son of God.

    I need to talk about Jesus right now to calm me down, because that poster by the name of Import going to end up meeting Jesus earlier than expected if he ever speak to me in that tone again.
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    Feb 19, 2014 3:55 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 saidYou have to understand that Christ was the human form of the Holy Spirit. But, you are trying to compare him to having human attributes, in which you cannot. Jesus was flesh and blood, but he was not the 'flesh' in which the bible refers to as having 'carnal' desires. Christ was a man without sin. Christ came to redeem all sinners, so that we can inherit the kingdom of God. So to ask if Christ was gay, would be to ask if God is gay. Being that sexuality is a characteristic of the flesh and carnal desires, that answer is...no.

    From the moment of his conception Jesus Christ was empowered by the Holy Spirit. Christ’s possession of the Holy Spirit was demonstrated publicly at several points in his ministry. After his resurrection the Holy Spirit demonstrated him to be the Son of God.

    I need to talk about Jesus right now to calm me down, because that poster by the name of Import going to end up meeting Jesus earlier than expected if he ever speak to me in that tone again.


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    Feb 19, 2014 4:13 AM GMT
    tortoise_sex saidmaybe he really was gay. i'm just saying. where's his kids? he could have had any woman he wanted and impregnated them without spilling any jesus juice inside but he chose to spend his time with 12 men instead. the last supper sounds like an orgy, a straight up cockfest. out of all the 11, i'm guessing jesus had a thing for judas. after all, they did have a makeout session.


    John was the disciple Jesus most loved.
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    Feb 19, 2014 4:17 AM GMT
    Jesus came to bring the message of love to the world. All those Christians you are referring to, do not even follow one word of Christ. They bring up quotes from a story of a punishment God sent to the Jews for idolizing and worshiping a heathen god even after he had saved the from the slavery of the Egyptians. And they quote a self proclaimed preacher of Christianity, Paul, who was not one of the original apostles of Jesus, so never heard the words of Jesus first hand. They never quote Jesus, because they know if they did, the words he spoke, condemn all of what they do.
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    Feb 19, 2014 4:50 AM GMT
    tortoise_sex said
    Tanner said
    tortoise_sex saidmaybe he really was gay. i'm just saying. where's his kids? he could have had any woman he wanted and impregnated them without spilling any jesus juice inside but he chose to spend his time with 12 men instead. the last supper sounds like an orgy, a straight up cockfest. out of all the 11, i'm guessing jesus had a thing for judas. after all, they did have a makeout session.


    John was the disciple Jesus most loved.


    so you saying that john, jesus and judas were in a love triangle?


    Imagine if they did a gay depiction of Jesus in a movie. All the Christians & Catholics would be picketing the movie.
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    Feb 19, 2014 5:54 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidJesus came to bring the message of love to the world. All those Christians you are referring to, do not even follow one word of Christ.


    That's another thing people need to understand. People fear and dislike God/Jesus because of these so-called Christians running around proclaiming their own puritan beliefs. The bible never really had any major battle or discussion over homosexuality. That is a present day issue.

    Even so-called Christians can be sinners, and do things that's not in-line with what Jesus came to do.

    tortoise_sex saidout of all the 11, i'm guessing jesus had a thing for judas. after all, they did have a makeout session.


    Lazarus was his best friend, with whom he raised from the dead:
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    tortoise_sex saidmaybe he really was gay. i'm just saying. where's his kids? he could have had any woman he wanted and impregnated them without spilling any jesus juice inside but he chose to spend his time with 12 men instead. the last supper sounds like an orgy, a straight up cockfest. out of all the 11, i'm guessing jesus had a thing for judas. after all, they did have a makeout session.


    Again, you're missing the point I made. Carnal desires = fleshly desires.

    In addition, I believe in those days, men outnumbered women. It's pretty clear: Adam and Eve begot Cain and Able. 3 men to 1 woman. God and Lucifer: 2 male figures. That's just how it was in those times.
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    Feb 19, 2014 6:37 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 saidYou have to understand that Christ was the human form of the Holy Spirit. But, you are trying to compare him to having human attributes, in which you cannot. Jesus was flesh and blood, but he was not the 'flesh' in which the bible refers to as having 'carnal' desires. Christ was a man without sin. Christ came to redeem all sinners, so that we can inherit the kingdom of God. So to ask if Christ was gay, would be to ask if God is gay. Being that sexuality is a characteristic of the flesh and carnal desires, that answer is...no.

    From the moment of his conception Jesus Christ was empowered by the Holy Spirit. Christ’s possession of the Holy Spirit was demonstrated publicly at several points in his ministry. After his resurrection the Holy Spirit demonstrated him to be the Son of God.

    I need to talk about Jesus right now to calm me down, because that poster by the name of Import going to end up meeting Jesus earlier than expected if he ever speak to me in that tone again.
    You know that boy had all sorts of unprotected anal sex.
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    Feb 19, 2014 9:29 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 said
    tortoise_sex saidmaybe he really was gay. i'm just saying. where's his kids? he could have had any woman he wanted and impregnated them without spilling any jesus juice inside but he chose to spend his time with 12 men instead. the last supper sounds like an orgy, a straight up cockfest. out of all the 11, i'm guessing jesus had a thing for judas. after all, they did have a makeout session.


    Again, you're missing the point I made. Carnal desires = fleshly desires.

    In addition, I believe in those days, men outnumbered women. It's pretty clear: Adam and Eve begot Cain and Able. 3 men to 1 woman. God and Lucifer: 2 male figures. That's just how it was in those times.


    So how did we multiply from Cain & Abel if there was only one woman, Eve? Did Cain & Able procreate with their mother?.....
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    Feb 19, 2014 10:50 AM GMT
    Tanner said
    So how did we multiply from Cain & Able if there was only one woman, Eve? Did Cain & Able procreate with their mother?.....

    Umm, you need to read the book of Genesis the 1st 3 chapters. I can't answer that at the moment.
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    Feb 19, 2014 5:16 PM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 said
    Tanner said
    So how did we multiply from Cain & Abel if there was only one woman, Eve? Did Cain & Able procreate with their mother?.....

    Umm, you need to read the book of Genesis the 1st 3 chapters. I can't answer that at the moment.


    Seems the writers of the Genesis & the Bible didn't think their paradigm through. Let's add more children besides just Cain & Abel---other sons & daughters---so it makes our make-believe Creationist story plausible.....So Cain hooked up with one of his sisters in the Land of Nod. And they had a third brother Seth that wasn't originally mentioned.

    Talk about Revisionist Creationists.....Let's add some loopholes so any problem question can be reasoned with.....
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 19, 2014 5:19 PM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 saidYou have to understand that Christ was the human form of the Holy Spirit. But, you are trying to compare him to having human attributes, in which you cannot. Jesus was flesh and blood, but he was not the 'flesh' in which the bible refers to as having 'carnal' desires. Christ was a man without sin. Christ came to redeem all sinners, so that we can inherit the kingdom of God. So to ask if Christ was gay, would be to ask if God is gay. Being that sexuality is a characteristic of the flesh and carnal desires, that answer is...no.

    From the moment of his conception Jesus Christ was empowered by the Holy Spirit. Christ’s possession of the Holy Spirit was demonstrated publicly at several points in his ministry. After his resurrection the Holy Spirit demonstrated him to be the Son of God.

    I need to talk about Jesus right now to calm me down, because that poster by the name of Import going to end up meeting Jesus earlier than expected if he ever speak to me in that tone again.

    You're praising Jesus and making death threats all in one post??? The devil likes you.icon_twisted.gif
  • TannerMasseur

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    Feb 19, 2014 5:22 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    FuzzyPecs25 saidYou have to understand that Christ was the human form of the Holy Spirit. But, you are trying to compare him to having human attributes, in which you cannot. Jesus was flesh and blood, but he was not the 'flesh' in which the bible refers to as having 'carnal' desires. Christ was a man without sin. Christ came to redeem all sinners, so that we can inherit the kingdom of God. So to ask if Christ was gay, would be to ask if God is gay. Being that sexuality is a characteristic of the flesh and carnal desires, that answer is...no.

    From the moment of his conception Jesus Christ was empowered by the Holy Spirit. Christ’s possession of the Holy Spirit was demonstrated publicly at several points in his ministry. After his resurrection the Holy Spirit demonstrated him to be the Son of God.

    I need to talk about Jesus right now to calm me down, because that poster by the name of Import going to end up meeting Jesus earlier than expected if he ever speak to me in that tone again.

    You're praising Jesus and making death threats all in one post??? The devil likes you.icon_twisted.gif


    What would Jesus think?!.....
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    Feb 19, 2014 5:23 PM GMT
    Tanner said
    HottJoe said
    FuzzyPecs25 saidYou have to understand that Christ was the human form of the Holy Spirit. But, you are trying to compare him to having human attributes, in which you cannot. Jesus was flesh and blood, but he was not the 'flesh' in which the bible refers to as having 'carnal' desires. Christ was a man without sin. Christ came to redeem all sinners, so that we can inherit the kingdom of God. So to ask if Christ was gay, would be to ask if God is gay. Being that sexuality is a characteristic of the flesh and carnal desires, that answer is...no.

    From the moment of his conception Jesus Christ was empowered by the Holy Spirit. Christ’s possession of the Holy Spirit was demonstrated publicly at several points in his ministry. After his resurrection the Holy Spirit demonstrated him to be the Son of God.

    I need to talk about Jesus right now to calm me down, because that poster by the name of Import going to end up meeting Jesus earlier than expected if he ever speak to me in that tone again.

    You're praising Jesus and making death threats all in one post??? The devil likes you.icon_twisted.gif


    What would Jesus think?!.....

    Jesus wept.
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    HottJoe said
    FuzzyPecs25 saidYou have to understand that Christ was the human form of the Holy Spirit. But, you are trying to compare him to having human attributes, in which you cannot. Jesus was flesh and blood, but he was not the 'flesh' in which the bible refers to as having 'carnal' desires. Christ was a man without sin. Christ came to redeem all sinners, so that we can inherit the kingdom of God. So to ask if Christ was gay, would be to ask if God is gay. Being that sexuality is a characteristic of the flesh and carnal desires, that answer is...no.

    From the moment of his conception Jesus Christ was empowered by the Holy Spirit. Christ’s possession of the Holy Spirit was demonstrated publicly at several points in his ministry. After his resurrection the Holy Spirit demonstrated him to be the Son of God.

    I need to talk about Jesus right now to calm me down, because that poster by the name of Import going to end up meeting Jesus earlier than expected if he ever speak to me in that tone again.

    You're praising Jesus and making death threats all in one post??? The devil likes you.icon_twisted.gif


    XD
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    Feb 19, 2014 5:33 PM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 said
    Tanner said
    So how did we multiply from Cain & Abel if there was only one woman, Eve? Did Cain & Able procreate with their mother?.....

    Umm, you need to read the book of Genesis the 1st 3 chapters. I can't answer that at the moment.


    Seems the writers of the Genesis & the Bible didn't think their paradigm through. Let's add more children besides just Cain & Abel---other sons & daughters---so it makes our make-believe Creationist story plausible.....So Cain hooked up with one of his sisters in the Land of Nod. And they had a third brother Seth that wasn't originally mentioned.

    Talk about Revisionist Creationists.....Let's add some loopholes so any problem question can be reasoned with.....

    Instead of The Greatest Story Ever Told, it should be The Greatest Fibs Ever Told.....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Feb 19, 2014 7:05 PM GMT
    pellaz saidNo one is claiming the bible was revision controlled through the millennium.

    there are thousands of religions, maybe millions of gods. each comes with the claim to be true. You got to be gullible to believe this junk.


    The world is filled with gullible people.....

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    Feb 20, 2014 10:17 AM GMT
    Tanner Let's add more children besides just Cain & Abel---other sons & daughters---so it makes our make-believe Creationist story plausible.....So Cain hooked up with one of his sisters in the Land of Nod. And they had a third brother Seth that wasn't originally mentioned.. Talk about Revisionist Creationists.....Let's add some loopholes so any problem question can be reasoned with.....

    Instead of The Greatest Story Ever Told, it should be The Greatest Fibs Ever Told.....


    OK, you're starting to lose points with me now. Regardless of how the bible is written, don't you think the human race had to start with 2 people? Of course there was a partial incest in a way. In addition, those were the times before the flood (Noah's Ark). The world was on a downward spiral before the flood. The 10 commandments were not written when adam and eve were procreating. They came after the flood. Incest was not a sin at that time (again, before the flood and 10 commandments which came later in the bible) because it wasn't a definition. It became incest as the population continued to grow. Perhaps, an alteration in the DNA makeup of mankind overtime (and thru God's will) caused incest to lead to genetic deformities, stillborn, etc.

    In Genesis 4:17, Cain has a wife, though there is no account given of where his wife comes from. Excepting direct creation by God, as was the case for Adam himself, the only two obvious possibilities for Cain's wife are that she was either a full sister of Cain or she was Cain's mother Eve.-wiki

    and

    These prohibitions are found predominantly in Leviticus 18:8-18 and 20:11-21, but also in Deuteronomy. The biblical categories of prohibited relationships does not entirely match the modern definitions of prohibited incestuous relations in force in various countries.

    are examples of what I'm saying.

    Technically, we're all related. Even people who don't believe in the bible know that. It's called evolution and starting with a single genepool.

    I'm not going to sit and argue about the merits and validity of the bible, but if you want to look at things just on the surface, you have to atleast believe there was a beginning. And since you weren't around in the beginning, you have to have faith that there is an accurate manuscripted guide that's been passed down from generation to generation that TELLS you, about the beginning. Nobody is going to take your version of the 'beginning', so better to go by what the scriptures say.
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    Feb 20, 2014 5:02 PM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 said
    Tanner Let's add more children besides just Cain & Abel---other sons & daughters---so it makes our make-believe Creationist story plausible.....So Cain hooked up with one of his sisters in the Land of Nod. And they had a third brother Seth that wasn't originally mentioned.. Talk about Revisionist Creationists.....Let's add some loopholes so any problem question can be reasoned with.....

    Instead of The Greatest Story Ever Told, it should be The Greatest Fibs Ever Told.....


    OK, you're starting to lose points with me now. Regardless of how the bible is written, don't you think the human race had to start with 2 people? Of course there was a partial incest in a way. In addition, those were the times before the flood (Noah's Ark). The world was on a downward spiral before the flood. The 10 commandments were not written when adam and eve were procreating. They came after the flood. Incest was not a sin at that time (again, before the flood and 10 commandments which came later in the bible) because it wasn't a definition. It became incest as the population continued to grow. Perhaps, an alteration in the DNA makeup of mankind overtime (and thru God's will) caused incest to lead to genetic deformities, stillborn, etc.

    In Genesis 4:17, Cain has a wife, though there is no account given of where his wife comes from. Excepting direct creation by God, as was the case for Adam himself, the only two obvious possibilities for Cain's wife are that she was either a full sister of Cain or she was Cain's mother Eve.-wiki

    and

    These prohibitions are found predominantly in Leviticus 18:8-18 and 20:11-21, but also in Deuteronomy. The biblical categories of prohibited relationships does not entirely match the modern definitions of prohibited incestuous relations in force in various countries.

    are examples of what I'm saying.

    Technically, we're all related. Even people who don't believe in the bible know that. It's called evolution and starting with a single genepool.

    I'm not going to sit and argue about the merits and validity of the bible, but if you want to look at things just on the surface, you have to atleast believe there was a beginning. And since you weren't around in the beginning, you have to have faith that there is an accurate manuscripted guide that's been passed down from generation to generation that TELLS you, about the beginning. Nobody is going to take your version of the 'beginning', so better to go by what the scriptures say.


    I believe in evolution. I think all religions are man-made & have been edited, revised & embellished by many hands since their conception. I think religions were made to help people cope with the unknowable & our inevitable death & what happens after u die. Religion gives our being a purpose. They're no different than believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. One can swallow some of the stories of major religions, but Scientology & Mormonism takes the cake, in terms of utter & self-serving fabrication.
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    Tanner said I think religions were made to help people cope with the unknowable & our inevitable death & what happens after u die. Religion gives our being a purpose. They're no different than believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. One can swallow some of the stories of major religions, but Scientology & Mormonism takes the cake, in terms of utter & self-serving fabrication.


    I agree with you. I don't care for 'religious' people myself. However, in the bible...religion had a different meaning than today:

    The word 'religion' is mentioned seven times in the Bible. The word "religion" is, out of seven, mentioned as something bad six times. It is only mentioned with a good connotation in James 1:27.

    However, everyone above the age of 10 knows that Santa and the Tooth Fairy don't exist. However, one can't say the same of Christ. Our current year 2014, was based on his presence on the earth. There's many idols, many religions, many faiths and beliefs. The only way to know the true one, is to read the bible, and interpret it correctly. A lot of people misunderstand the bible and make-up their own beliefs about it, because they fail to interpret it correctly.

    There's a lot of false information out there in the church and among preachers, but that's why you have to do you own research. The internet is invaluable for that. I am saying all of this, because a couple weeks ago my grandmother died, and I started researching things. Just like I would for anything else, such as an HIV diagnosis. I found so much enlightenment, that was different from all the things I've been told over the years.
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    Feb 21, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 said
    Tanner said I think religions were made to help people cope with the unknowable & our inevitable death & what happens after u die. Religion gives our being a purpose. They're no different than believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. One can swallow some of the stories of major religions, but Scientology & Mormonism takes the cake, in terms of utter & self-serving fabrication.


    I agree with you. I don't care for 'religious' people myself. However, in the bible...religion had a different meaning than today:

    The word 'religion' is mentioned seven times in the Bible. The word "religion" is, out of seven, mentioned as something bad six times. It is only mentioned with a good connotation in James 1:27.

    However, everyone above the age of 10 knows that Santa and the Tooth Fairy don't exist. However, one can't say the same of Christ. Our current year 2014, was based on his presence on the earth. There's many idols, many religions, many faiths and beliefs. The only way to know the true one, is to read the bible, and interpret it correctly. A lot of people misunderstand the bible and make-up their own beliefs about it, because they fail to interpret it correctly.

    There's a lot of false information out there in the church and among preachers, but that's why you have to do you own research. The internet is invaluable for that. I am saying all of this, because a couple weeks ago my grandmother died, and I started researching things. Just like I would for anything else, such as an HIV diagnosis. I found so much enlightenment, that was different from all the things I've been told over the years.


    Everyone has their own belief system. I'm an artist & one of the criticisms I delve into with my art are people's belief systems. In one image piece I've done, I redrew Durer's "Praying Hands" & included a vise clamp keeping the hands together, with blood dripping from the tenuous grip of the vise clamp---where one's beliefs, in a way, become a vice. I titled the piece "Vice", a play on the pronunciation "vise". I want to do a white marble & bronze version of it too, as well as a carved painted wooden version.
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    Feb 21, 2014 1:25 PM GMT
    sounds like some victims crying out for support.. "I cheat, you cheat and hey! are you sure master you never cheat?"
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    Feb 21, 2014 4:51 PM GMT
    leo_ saidsounds like some victims crying out for support.. "I cheat, you cheat and hey! are you sure master you never cheat?"


    There are those who choose to be brainwashed wholeheartedly.....
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    Feb 21, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
    Tanner said
    Everyone has their own belief system.


    No, not everyone has their own belief system. There may be many different belief systems...but many people follow the major beliefs, which aren't their own icon_wink.gif

    Again, what you're stating is nothing new. Meaning, it doesn't make all 'belief systems' right. People have been worshipping false Gods and idols, way before Christ:

    Jeremiah 16:19 (New International Version)
    "O LORD, my strength and my fortress,
    my refuge in time of distress,
    to you the nations will come
    from the ends of the earth and say,
    "Our fathers possessed nothing but false gods,
    worthless idols that did them no good."