Dear Abby gives homophobic Florida couple a lesson in being neighborly

  • metta

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    Feb 20, 2014 10:08 PM GMT
    Dear Abby gives homophobic Florida couple a lesson in being neighborly

    'It appears you would be happier in a less integrated neighborhood surrounded by people who think the way you do'


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/dear-abby-gives-homophobic-florida-couple-lesson-being-neighborly200214
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Feb 21, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
    Thank you for posting this and as most of you know, I am a Floridian (35 years), so I had to jump in on this just to see where the bigoted/homophobic couple live. I was surprised though, however, I had to stop and think for a moment and realize there are people like this in some of our most liberal cities and counties. On the other hand, there just might be one or two screaming liberals in the Florida Panhandle or in the Tea Party stronghold of Lake County, Florida.

    Interesting and thank you for sharing this, Metta8. As always, you deserve a pat on the back from all of us for keeping the masses informed. Thank you.
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    Feb 21, 2014 6:16 AM GMT
    Incredible, right? This new couple moves into an established social circle and then tries to manipulate the group into ostracizing two of its couples. The group refuses and then shuns THEM for being assholes, and they're all like "boo hoo, they're bigots".

    You can't make this shit up.
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    Feb 21, 2014 6:25 AM GMT
    I like how they don't see themselves as bigots and feel they've been discriminated against. Typical.
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    Feb 21, 2014 6:45 AM GMT
    From the '80s, her legendary bite-me response to a hand-wringing writer complaining about how all the fags were bringing down the moral fiber of the neighborhood:

    DearAbby-YouCouldMove-3.jpg
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    Feb 23, 2014 5:45 PM GMT
    Elusium saidFrom the '80s, her legendary bite-me response to a hand-wringing writer complaining about how all the fags were bringing down the moral fiber of the neighborhood:

    DearAbby-YouCouldMove-3.jpg



    LOLOLOLOL
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    Feb 23, 2014 5:53 PM GMT
    'It appears you would be happier in a less integrated neighborhood surrounded by people who think the way you do'

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    Feb 23, 2014 5:55 PM GMT
    Snaz said
    Elusium saidFrom the '80s, her legendary bite-me response to a hand-wringing writer complaining about how all the fags were bringing down the moral fiber of the neighborhood:

    DearAbby-YouCouldMove-3.jpg



    LOLOLOLOL


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    Feb 23, 2014 5:55 PM GMT
    Elusium saidFrom the '80s, her legendary bite-me response to a hand-wringing writer complaining about how all the fags were bringing down the moral fiber of the neighborhood:

    DearAbby-YouCouldMove-3.jpg

    I'm glad "Dear Abby's" daughter is following in her mother's heels.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 23, 2014 11:12 PM GMT
    There are more appropriate places for this homophobic couple to move to like Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, or West Virginia. I am sure that those five permanently red, republican states will more than exceed their expectationsicon_lol.gif
  • Sportsfan1

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    Feb 23, 2014 11:31 PM GMT
    Metta8,
    You never cease to impress me. Thank you for your wonderful posts. This one was particularly enjoyable. This couple needs to take a long look in the mirror. Thanks again, keep up the great work!
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    Feb 23, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
    funny!
  • Cutlass

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    Mar 04, 2014 10:35 AM GMT
    Thank you, Metta, for finding this and other newsworthy events regarding gays. Dear Abby is not available in my metropolitan paper, so it was nice to know that she is continuing her late mother's drive to educate the public about gays.
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    Mar 04, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
    Not surprised this is Tampa which many think of as a conservative area but actually tends towards inclusion, both in sexual orientation and interracially.

    The Human Rights Campaign's scored Tampa http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/MEI_tampa_2013.pdf an 89, higher than Wilton 82, Fort Laud 77 and Orlando 79 & beat out only by (on its list) Miami Beach 100.
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    Mar 04, 2014 4:37 PM GMT
    theantijock saidNot surprised this is Tampa which many think of as a conservative area but actually tends towards inclusion, both in sexual orientation and interracially.

    The Human Rights Campaign's scored Tampa http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/MEI_tampa_2013.pdf an 89, higher than Wilton 82, Fort Laud 77 and Orlando 79 & beat out only by (on its list) Miami Beach 100.
    Does this ranking include both St. Petersburg and Clearwater since both cities are near Tampaicon_question.gif
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    Mar 04, 2014 5:11 PM GMT
    It is a municipal ranking, not a ranking of MSA's (Metropolitan Statistical Area) so Tampa is for Tampa proper, not for Tampa Bay which generally describes its MSA.

    You can see all the ranked cities here

    http://www.hrc.org/resources/entry/mei-2013-see-your-citys-score

    Tampa-adjacent St Pete, where TropicalMark used to claim to be more liberal than Tampa, actually rates a mere 66 out of 100 points. Clearwater was not rated in this survey.

    In the same MSA probably generally thought to be more liberal than Tampa Bay, Greater Fort Lauderdale including even Wilton, are Hollywood, ranking a shabby 54, and Pembroke Pines with an embarrassment to modern humanity score of 43.
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    Mar 04, 2014 5:49 PM GMT
    Morton Phillips' wife Pauline started her column in San Francisco - with the San Francisco Chronicle. She had approached the San Mateo Times first with her idea for an advice column, but was turned down. BIG mistake on their part. The Phillips lived in Hillsborough & San Mateo was the nearest town. The Chronicle publisher (George Cameron) saw value in Pauline Phillips' idea. San Francisco's tolerant, intelligent ways of thinking helped shape the thinking and advice of Mrs. Phillips (Dear Abby). We're happy to claim her as "ours". I personally have learned a lot from her columns.
  • TrentGrad

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    Mar 05, 2014 12:19 PM GMT
    Shark_cuterie saidIncredible, right? This new couple moves into an established social circle and then tries to manipulate the group into ostracizing two of its couples. The group refuses and then shuns THEM for being assholes, and they're all like "boo hoo, they're bigots".

    You can't make this shit up.


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    Mar 05, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    theantijock saidNot surprised this is Tampa which many think of as a conservative area but actually tends towards inclusion, both in sexual orientation and interracially.

    The Human Rights Campaign's scored Tampa http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/MEI_tampa_2013.pdf an 89, higher than Wilton 82, Fort Laud 77 and Orlando 79 & beat out only by (on its list) Miami Beach 100.

    I'm often dubious of these "scores". Problem with Tampa is that it's in conservative Hillsborough County, which for years had refused to recognize or support any Gay Pride days or celebrations. As a result, in past years Tampa even had to cancel Gay Pride.

    I believe Tampa's rating relies on a small section known as Ybor City, which is indeed a gay enclave. But a single neighborhood does not a city make, nor a county.

    Whereas Wilton Manors (not "Wilton") has hosted a Pride parade & festival for many years, and will again this year. And has one of the highest gay resident concentrations in the US.
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    theantijock saidNot surprised this is Tampa which many think of as a conservative area but actually tends towards inclusion, both in sexual orientation and interracially.

    The Human Rights Campaign's scored Tampa http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/MEI_tampa_2013.pdf an 89, higher than Wilton 82, Fort Laud 77 and Orlando 79 & beat out only by (on its list) Miami Beach 100.

    I'm often dubious of these "scores". Problem with Tampa is that it's in conservative Hillsborough County, which for years had refused to recognize or support any Gay Pride days or celebrations. As a result, in past years Tampa even had to cancel Gay Pride.

    I believe Tampa's rating relies on a small section known as Ybor City, which is indeed a gay enclave. But a single neighborhood does not a city make, nor a county.

    Whereas Wilton Manors (not "Wilton") has hosted a Pride parade & festival for many years, and will again this year. And has one of the highest gay resident concentrations in the US.

    Along with being in Broward County, which is very gay friendly. Even the Broward Sheriff's Office (BSO) has a full-time LGBT community liaison person, a friend of ours, and provides resources to our annual gay events, even to supplying silent auction items to our fundraisers. Hell, the BSO even has an employment recruiting booth at our Pride events! Tampa's Hillsborough County doesn't do that.
  • Kazachok

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    Mar 05, 2014 2:42 PM GMT
    The reader explained that they had moved from a 'conservative community' where 'if people were "different," they apparently kept it to themselves.'

    Quoi?! "Oh, no, he's just my roommate. Oh no, she's just a friend." How are you supposed to keep your spouse (I know they're not married, but might as well be) to yourself?
    If they don't approve of their "lifestyle choice" and don't invite them, what do they expect? Besides, I think it's better not to invite people who are like them. If a commissioner doesn't want to officiate my wedding, I'll just find another one who does. It would be far more pleasant that way for all people involved.
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    Mar 05, 2014 4:23 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said...I believe Tampa's rating relies on a small section known as Ybor City....


    You are wrong.

    Ybor City is not a municipality. Tampa is.

    Here's the criteria for ranking...

    http://www.hrc.org/campaigns/municipal-equality-index
    The Municipal Equality Index (MEI) examines the laws, policies, and services of municipalities and rates them on the basis of their inclusivity of LGBT people who live and work there.


    http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/MEI_2013_FAQ.PDF

    DID YOU KNOW THAT ___ ISN’T
    A CITY?
    Yes. A few of the places rated in
    the MEI are “census-designated
    places” that are not incorporated as
    cities. In that case, we rated the local
    government that actually serves that
    census-designated place
    , which is
    usually the county.


    HOW ARE THE SCORES
    CALCULATED?
    Cities are rated on a scale of 0-100,
    based on the city’s laws, policies,
    benefits, and services. There are
    100 standard points and 20 bonus
    points (bonus points are awarded for
    programming or actions that apply
    to some but not all cities).

    WHERE DID THE INFORMATION
    FOR THESE SCORES
    COME FROM?
    The MEI team conducted the
    research, compiled it into a draft
    scorecard, and sent it to the city for
    review. Cities had an opportunity to
    review the draft scorecard and offer
    any feedback prior to publication.


    PS

    http://www.votehillsborough.org/

    Active Registered Voters as of 03/05/2014

    Democratic: 306,940

    Republican: 244,657

    Other: 207,745

    Total: 759,342
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    Mar 05, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
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    theantijock said
    ART_DECO said...I believe Tampa's rating relies on a small section known as Ybor City....


    You are wrong.

    Ybor City is not a municipality. Tampa is.

    Here's the criteria for ranking...

    http://www.hrc.org/campaigns/municipal-equality-index
    The Municipal Equality Index (MEI) examines the laws, policies, and services of municipalities and rates them on the basis of their inclusivity of LGBT people who live and work there.


    http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/MEI_2013_FAQ.PDF

    DID YOU KNOW THAT ___ ISN’T
    A CITY?
    Yes. A few of the places rated in
    the MEI are “census-designated
    places” that are not incorporated as
    cities. In that case, we rated the local
    government that actually serves that
    census-designated place
    , which is
    usually the county.


    HOW ARE THE SCORES
    CALCULATED?
    Cities are rated on a scale of 0-100,
    based on the city’s laws, policies,
    benefits, and services. There are
    100 standard points and 20 bonus
    points (bonus points are awarded for
    programming or actions that apply
    to some but not all cities).

    WHERE DID THE INFORMATION
    FOR THESE SCORES
    COME FROM?
    The MEI team conducted the
    research, compiled it into a draft
    scorecard, and sent it to the city for
    review. Cities had an opportunity to
    review the draft scorecard and offer
    any feedback prior to publication.


    PS

    http://www.votehillsborough.org/

    Active Registered Voters as of 03/05/2014

    Democratic: 306,940

    Republican: 244,657

    Other: 207,745

    Total: 759,342



    Well, that's interesting, though Art_Deco technically may not be wrong when he says:
    ART_DECO saidProblem with Tampa is that it's in conservative Hillsborough County

    One can be conservative and still be a Democrat or Independent.


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    southbeach1500 said
    Well, that's interesting, though Art_Deco technically may not be wrong when he says:
    ART_DECO saidProblem with Tampa is that it's in conservative Hillsborough County

    One can be conservative and still be a Democrat or Independent.


    That's all relative crap. Certainly it is a more conservative area than Lauderdale but that doesn't mean it is as conservative as other areas of the state or country.

    The ranking is an objective look at municipalities based upon the same criteria for each municipality ranked. It is not a prejudiced view of past actions applied currently by some late comer snob to denigrate a perfectly fine area for gay people to live.

    I liked you better before. At least you were being honest about yourself. Had you been being yourself here, you'd have argued instead that even a more conservative area can bring to gay people more freedoms written into law and policy. I'd be sorry for you that you missed that opportunity to draw a point for your side of the aisle hadn't you expressed such a lack of integrity here just to make some brownie points that you'd even put your nose up his ass. I think I'm gonna vomit.
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    Mar 05, 2014 7:19 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said

    Sorry that you aren't feeling well today.


    Oh look, insincerity mixed with passive aggressiveness. Good to be back in familiar territory. It may not be pretty but at least it's real.