Democrats Want Clinton to Run in 2016 Not Christie

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    Feb 26, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
    More than 8 in 10 Democrats say they want Hillary Rodham Clinton to run for president in 2016, showing a level of interest in her that no other potential candidates – Democrat or Republican – come close to matching among their party’s voters, according to a New York Times/CBS News Poll.

    The potential candidates drawing the most interest after Mrs. Clinton are Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. For each of them, about 40 percent of self-identified members of their party said they hoped the person would run.

    While Democrats appear overwhelmingly eager for a Clinton candidacy, the poll suggests that the Republican field, at least at this early stage, is far more muddled, with no potential candidate garnering majority enthusiasm for a presidential run.

    Thirty-two percent of Republicans say they want Senator Marco Rubio of Florida to run, although Mr. Rubio also seems to have fewer detractors than Mr. Bush or Mr. Paul (more do not know enough about him to say). Only 15 percent of Republicans said they did not want Mr. Rubio to run, compared with 21 percent for Mr. Paul and 27 percent for Mr. Bush. Twenty-four percent said they hoped Senator Ted Cruz of Texas would run, compared with 15 percent who said they did not want him to. Fifty-nine percent do not know enough about Mr. Cruz to say.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/us/politics/most-democrats-want-clinton-to-run-in-2016.html?hp&_r=0
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    Feb 26, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
    i didnt know till recent; Hillary Clinton is 70
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    Feb 26, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
    Christie's approval continues to plummet so I'm not surprised. The bridge scandal is revealing itself to be more intricate than simply someone in his administration wanting to cause some harm. There is now the strong suggestion that the police chief of the Port Authority is in on the cover up. That, plus Christie's use of federal fundings for Hurricane Sandy relief also casts his potential in doubt. There's another scandal involving a tunnel. It all adds up against him.

    Christie has a history of being a bad guy.

    For Democrats, of the top contenders, I'd rather have Joe Biden. For Republicans, Bush is the more formidable of the group.
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    Feb 26, 2014 11:42 PM GMT
    creature saidChristie's approval continues to plummet so I'm not surprised. The bridge scandal is revealing itself to be more intricate than simply someone in his administration wanting to cause some harm. There is now the strong suggestion that the police chief of the Port Authority is in on the cover up. That, plus Christie's use of federal fundings for Hurricane Sandy relief also casts his potential in doubt. There's another scandal involving a tunnel. It all adds up against him.

    Christie has a history of being a bad guy.

    For Democrats, of the top contenders, I'd rather have Joe Biden. For Republicans, Bush is the more formidable of the group.

    I don't think a Bush can get elected.
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    Feb 26, 2014 11:49 PM GMT
    Sharka_Khan said
    I don't think a Bush can get elected.


    that's why they killed off Christie early up. From what i read not difficult to do.
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    Feb 26, 2014 11:52 PM GMT
    So the GOP is going to sit out? Jeb is their best I think.
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    Feb 26, 2014 11:52 PM GMT
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    creature saidChristie's approval continues to plummet so I'm not surprised. The bridge scandal is revealing itself to be more intricate than simply someone in his administration wanting to cause some harm. There is now the strong suggestion that the police chief of the Port Authority is in on the cover up. That, plus Christie's use of federal fundings for Hurricane Sandy relief also casts his potential in doubt. There's another scandal involving a tunnel. It all adds up against him.

    Christie has a history of being a bad guy.

    For Democrats, of the top contenders, I'd rather have Joe Biden. For Republicans, Bush is the more formidable of the group.

    I don't think a Bush can get elected.


    I don't think he can either. But of the Republicans whose names have been brought up as potential candidates (i.e., Bobby Jindal, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, etc.), he seems the best choice for the party.

    But 2016 is definitely Hillary's for the taking.
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    Feb 26, 2014 11:56 PM GMT
    I don't think the GOP has anything on her at this point.
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    Feb 27, 2014 12:27 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidI don't think the GOP has anything on her at this point.


    The Benghazi talking points are the only thing they have, but she left her Secretary of State position with high approval ratings. If I remember correctly, it was in the upper 60s, and that's during the firestorm of the so-called scandal.

    And as we saw in the 2012 presidential election, what happened at Benghazi didn't hurt President Obama's re-election effort. Over 300 electoral votes and more than 50% of the popular vote.

    Since Benghazi is the only thing the GOP can think about when it comes to Hillary, it looks like it is, it should be an easy victory.
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    Feb 27, 2014 12:38 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidI don't think the GOP has anything on her at this point.
    Give them time. It is only 2014 a lot of things can happen between now and Nov. 2016. Hillary has more than enough skeletons in her closet. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on her bandwagon. The democrats need to be very careful with this lady.
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    Feb 27, 2014 12:45 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    woodsmen saidI don't think the GOP has anything on her at this point.
    Give them time. It is only 2014 a lot of things can happen between now and Nov. 2016. Hillary has more than enough skeletons in her closet. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on her bandwagon. The democrats need to be very careful with this lady.


    You are spending too much time reading the tabloids at the supermarket checkout line again!
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    Feb 27, 2014 12:50 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    roadbikeRob said
    woodsmen saidI don't think the GOP has anything on her at this point.
    Give them time. It is only 2014 a lot of things can happen between now and Nov. 2016. Hillary has more than enough skeletons in her closet. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on her bandwagon. The democrats need to be very careful with this lady.


    You are spending too much time reading the tabloids at the supermarket checkout line again!
    You need to stop being a blind sycophant to the Hillary 2016 crowd. This lady is not electable and she will get creamed by a republican challenger in most states including your home state of Florida. The democrats need to look at other potential candidates. Plus Hillary is getting up there in years.
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    Feb 27, 2014 12:52 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidThe electoral demographics heavily favor Democrats holding the Presidency for the next few cycles, at least. However, Republicans are very strong in the states, where the voting districts are defined and thus, it's quite likely we'll be seeing Republicans control the House for several cycles as well. As for the Senate, it's probably going to wobble between Democrat and Republican control from one election to the next.


    If Democrats work hard to field good candidates this cycle, we have a shot at getting the House back. It will be very close though. On the Senate side, there is the chance we could lose West Virginia and Louisiana, but...I feel good about our chances picking up the open seat in Georgia and....winning in Kentucky. Yes, Kentucky!
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    Feb 27, 2014 12:57 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    southbeach1500 saidThe electoral demographics heavily favor Democrats holding the Presidency for the next few cycles, at least. However, Republicans are very strong in the states, where the voting districts are defined and thus, it's quite likely we'll be seeing Republicans control the House for several cycles as well. As for the Senate, it's probably going to wobble between Democrat and Republican control from one election to the next.


    If Democrats work hard to field good candidates this cycle, we have a shot at getting the House back. It will be very close though. On the Senate side, there is the chance we could lose West Virginia and Louisiana, but...I feel good about our chances picking up the open seat in Georgia and....winning in Kentucky. Yes, Kentucky!
    The democrats face a very tough uphill battle in Georgia, that is not going to be an easy race to win. Kentucky is still a toss up but things are looking a little better for the democratic challenger but there is still a lot of hard work ahead. Kentucky is in the Bible Belt which means the FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS are going to do everything in their power and spend their wads of money on a conservative challenger that could make things very unpleasant for the democratic candidate.
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    Feb 27, 2014 2:03 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    turtleneckjock said
    roadbikeRob said
    woodsmen saidI don't think the GOP has anything on her at this point.
    Give them time. It is only 2014 a lot of things can happen between now and Nov. 2016. Hillary has more than enough skeletons in her closet. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on her bandwagon. The democrats need to be very careful with this lady.


    You are spending too much time reading the tabloids at the supermarket checkout line again!
    You need to stop being a blind sycophant to the Hillary 2016 crowd. This lady is not electable and she will get creamed by a republican challenger in most states including your home state of Florida. The democrats need to look at other potential candidates. Plus Hillary is getting up there in years.


    I agree that the Democrats need to look at other candidates. Being President is not a lifetime achievement award. Her approval rating is up because she's been out of politics since late 2008, if she announces and starts campaigning, her approval ratings will go back down.

    And she needs strong challengers. People in those small towns in New Hampshire, and Iowa like when candidates come to their towns and fights for their votes.
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    Feb 27, 2014 2:08 AM GMT
    creature saidChristie's approval continues to plummet so I'm not surprised. The bridge scandal is revealing itself to be more intricate than simply someone in his administration wanting to cause some harm. There is now the strong suggestion that the police chief of the Port Authority is in on the cover up. That, plus Christie's use of federal fundings for Hurricane Sandy relief also casts his potential in doubt. There's another scandal involving a tunnel. It all adds up against him.

    Christie has a history of being a bad guy.

    For Democrats, of the top contenders, I'd rather have Joe Biden. For Republicans, Bush is the more formidable of the group.


    Agreed - Joe 2016!
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    Feb 27, 2014 2:12 AM GMT
    YourName2000 said
    turtleneckjock said
    roadbikeRob said
    woodsmen saidI don't think the GOP has anything on her at this point.
    Give them time. It is only 2014 a lot of things can happen between now and Nov. 2016. Hillary has more than enough skeletons in her closet. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on her bandwagon. The democrats need to be very careful with this lady.


    You are spending too much time reading the tabloids at the supermarket checkout line again!

    Yeah, that's absurd, RBR: Hillary is one of the most vetted people in American politics. It seems very unlikely to me that there are any skeletons left in her closet at this point. icon_confused.gif

    Back to the OP though, is "Democrats Want Clinton to Run in 2016 Not Christie" really news? I mean, it's not *too* surprising that Democrats want a Democrat (rather than a Republican) to run, right? icon_neutral.gif

    Personally, Hillary is so hawkish (as is Obama) that it will just be GWB's 5th term as far as I'm concerned. Still, given the likelihood that the next president is going to get to install some replacements on the SCOTUS, I'll take a social liberal over a social conservative president any day of the week, lol. But I really don't think Hillary represents the future of the Democratic Party.
    Its not absurd, there are a lot of skeletons in her closet. The fiasco known as whitewater could haunt and damage her in the presidential campaign. There was a lot of shit that went on in Arkansas while she and her hubby occupied the Governors Mansion in downtown Little Rock. You guys are hoping for an easy campaign for her, sorry it isn't going to happen because she is very far from trustworthy.
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    Feb 27, 2014 2:16 AM GMT
    Whitewater is so old and dead that it wouldn't make so much of a dent. Hillary has an advantage, not just because of her strengths, but because Republicans are planning on using Monica Lewinsky as a big issue against her, which is a very bad idea.
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    Feb 27, 2014 2:21 AM GMT
    No one cares about 'Whitewater' or anything else that happened in Arkansas 30 years ago anymore. Ken Starr overreached so badly that he succeeded in turning the country against......him. And his $60 million fishing expedition that turned up nothing.
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    Feb 27, 2014 2:24 AM GMT
    blkapollo saidWhitewater is so old and dead that it wouldn't make so much of a dent. Hillary has an advantage, not just because of her strengths, but because Republicans are planning on using Monica Lewinsky as a big issue against her, which is a very bad idea.
    It is very old indeed but it can still do some serious damage to Hillary. Plus her health care plan during the early Clinton years was a flop and a joke. It was great that republicans took over Congress before she could push this disastrous idea. She was only First Lady at the time yet she was already acting like an elected official.
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    Feb 27, 2014 3:06 AM GMT
    pellaz saidi didnt know till recent; Hillary Clinton is 70


    She turned 66 last autumn.
  • LJay

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    Feb 27, 2014 3:12 AM GMT
    This just in:

    Bill Clinton has changed his party affiliation to Republican and will run against Hillary in 2016.
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    Feb 27, 2014 3:36 AM GMT
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    blkapollo saidWhitewater is so old and dead that it wouldn't make so much of a dent. Hillary has an advantage, not just because of her strengths, but because Republicans are planning on using Monica Lewinsky as a big issue against her, which is a very bad idea.
    It is very old indeed but it can still do some serious damage to Hillary. Plus her health care plan during the early Clinton years was a flop and a joke. It was great that republicans took over Congress before she could push this disastrous idea. She was only First Lady at the time yet she was already acting like an elected official.


    All of that is old and an afterthought at this point, rehashing it would only remind people how vindictive Republicans were back then.